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NFT: Chris in Philly

Matt M. : 11/9/2017 2:08 pm
Maybe I missed the explanation, but myself and a few other posters asked what happened to Chris in Philly when it was mentioned he was banned last week. There was even a thread, which I can no longer find, dedicated to this inquiry at one point. But, again, I never saw an explanation and I would very much like to know as he is a long time poster I enjoy reading.
Political stuff  
I Love Clams Casino : 11/9/2017 2:10 pm : link
.
Free CiP!  
NorwoodWideRight : 11/9/2017 2:12 pm : link
Seriously, Chris has always been a top-notch poster on BBI and has posted some seriously funny stuff over the years. Bah.
He should have posted fake news  
Mr. Bungle : 11/9/2017 2:12 pm : link
about the Giants instead.
He's in a timeout  
Beer Man : 11/9/2017 2:16 pm : link
Give his legendary status on BBI, I'm sure he has as many lives as RockyT.
Say what you want about CiP  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/9/2017 2:17 pm : link
But that man knows a great sandwich.


FREE CHRIS IN PHILLY
Should we take a poll  
Post Time : 11/9/2017 2:20 pm : link
as to whether we answer his question or not?
As  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 2:24 pm : link
I posted before, I reached out to Chris and asked him to stop posting political stuff. He chose not to respond.
If Chris in Philly isn't reinstated  
EagleFanDan : 11/9/2017 2:27 pm : link
then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!
hopefully  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 2:28 pm : link
he is just cooling off. he's a long time and valued poster, not to mention artist!
I don't like his political views  
lawguy9801 : 11/9/2017 2:33 pm : link
but damn, I loved his comics he created during and after the SB XLVI run. I actually printed them out and read them with my kids as bedtime reading.
RE: If Chris in Philly isn't reinstated  
Mike in NY : 11/9/2017 2:42 pm : link
In comment 13683783 EagleFanDan said:
Quote:
then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!


I had no idea you were still around. I thought Matt in Syracuse had done something nefarious.
CiP in timeout  
JonC : 11/9/2017 2:43 pm : link
but Larry is still here, smh.
he's probably smothering.....  
BillKo : 11/9/2017 2:49 pm : link
in Eagle-mania.

We need to save him..............
No matter the eventual outcome  
Frank in Silver Spring : 11/9/2017 2:53 pm : link
He's in the BBI Hall of Fame for his artwork alone. The school bus with Tiki, Eli and Coughlin was memorable. Plus, he steered many of us away from tourist-trap Philly cheesesteaks and toward the real thing.

Come back to us, Chris...
RE: No matter the eventual outcome  
Mike in NY : 11/9/2017 2:54 pm : link
In comment 13683818 Frank in Silver Spring said:
Quote:
He's in the BBI Hall of Fame for his artwork alone. The school bus with Tiki, Eli and Coughlin was memorable. Plus, he steered many of us away from tourist-trap Philly cheesesteaks and toward the real thing.

Come back to us, Chris...


Or Jerruh World Amusement Park. And speed lines!
What he didn't do was call someone a SnowFag  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 2:56 pm : link
he would still be here if he just understood how to discuss politics - like someone at a third grade literacy level.
Is that really a thing...?  
BamaBlue : 11/9/2017 2:57 pm : link
In comment 13683824 jcn56 said:
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RE: What he didn't do was call someone a SnowFag he would still be here if he just understood how to discuss politics - like someone at a third grade literacy level.


That's almost as bad as "jerkface dweeb". I guess it's obvious that I missed the political correctness angle on this term...
I guess...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 11/9/2017 3:07 pm : link
CiP's exclusive clique is too busy talking politics than mustering up the strength to fight the Reich to get him back.
RE: What he didn't do was call someone a SnowFag  
I love liverwurst : 11/9/2017 3:14 pm : link
In comment 13683824 jcn56 said:
Quote:
he would still be here if he just understood how to discuss politics - like someone at a third grade literacy level.



Would a "Snow Manilow" have worked better for you?
I don't understand how politically "insensitive" comments  
djm : 11/9/2017 3:34 pm : link
Can even offend anyone anymore. Both political sides fucking blow. Dems, reps, what's the difference? How can anyone be offended? They both fucking suck!
During the bye week, I tried to get banned...  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/9/2017 3:40 pm : link
...with a Paul Manafort reference. That didn't work. Anybody for a discussion of Roy Moore's pedophilia?

Sorry... alleged pedophilia.
RE: If Chris in Philly isn't reinstated  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/9/2017 3:46 pm : link
In comment 13683783 EagleFanDan said:
Quote:
then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!


I thought you left...good to see you. Hope all is well
RE: As  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/9/2017 3:47 pm : link
In comment 13683775 Eric from BBI said:
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I posted before, I reached out to Chris and asked him to stop posting political stuff. He chose not to respond.


Meh I'm still waiting for him to respond to my email from three years ago. Don't hold your breath
RE: CiP in timeout  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/9/2017 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13683809 JonC said:
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but Larry is still here, smh.


Problem Mr C
RE: RE: CiP in timeout  
JonC : 11/9/2017 3:49 pm : link
In comment 13683910 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 13683809 JonC said:


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but Larry is still here, smh.



Problem Mr C


Only that I have no sammich, you bastid!
RE: As  
Matt M. : 11/9/2017 3:52 pm : link
In comment 13683775 Eric from BBI said:
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I posted before, I reached out to Chris and asked him to stop posting political stuff. He chose not to respond.
Thank you Eric. I never saw your post(s) about this and any inquiries I saw about this were unanswered...at least during the time I was reading the threads they were on. I hope CiP is back soon.
Well if CiP were free  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/9/2017 3:53 pm : link
He'd take you to the greatest sammich of all time
RE: If Chris in Philly isn't reinstated  
djm : 11/9/2017 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13683783 EagleFanDan said:
Quote:
then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!


Now this is just weird. Are we in the upside down?
RE: During the bye week, I tried to get banned...  
Rocky369 : 11/9/2017 4:44 pm : link
In comment 13683886 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...with a Paul Manafort reference. That didn't work. Anybody for a discussion of Roy Moore's pedophilia?

Sorry... alleged pedophilia.


you claimed it wasn't a political reference
Blogger  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 4:47 pm : link
that's the same kind of crap that got Chris in trouble (and he did it more than a few times) and now you are doing it. Consider this a warning.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish here.
RE: Blogger  
Canton : 11/9/2017 4:56 pm : link
In comment 13684014 Eric from BBI said:
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that's the same kind of crap that got Chris in trouble (and he did it more than a few times) and now you are doing it. Consider this a warning.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish here.


Isn't it obvious Eric? It's a revolt against the norms of BBI, by some of BBI's very best.
Canton  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 5:04 pm : link
We'll that's not a battle they are going to win.

If they don't want to be here, they can leave voluntarily or we can help them along.

I'm glad that politics is banned...  
BamaBlue : 11/9/2017 5:09 pm : link
when informed and intelligent people discuss politics with the intent to express their beliefs, it is interesting. The diatribes here don't have any of the necessary ingredients for an adult conversation... it's hate, emotion and junior high school level branding. Not surprising, this isn't the Brookings Institute or Hillsdale College...
RE: Canton  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 5:12 pm : link
In comment 13684036 Eric from BBI said:
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We'll that's not a battle they are going to win.

If they don't want to be here, they can leave voluntarily or we can help them along.


I believe this to be true - and the net result is not a positive for BBI.
jcn  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 5:32 pm : link
No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.
RE: During the bye week, I tried to get banned...  
Bill L : 11/9/2017 5:44 pm : link
In comment 13683886 Big Blue Blogger said:
Quote:
...with a Paul Manafort reference. That didn't work. Anybody for a discussion of Roy Moore's pedophilia?

Sorry... alleged pedophilia.
ve never understood why, when people grew tired or dissatisfied with the site, they tried to get banned or emailed the mods and asked to have their account deleted. Why not just not open the site. It’s not like the account takes up space or prevents others from joining. What’s the point of active removal?
_  
Banks : 11/9/2017 5:49 pm : link
Quote:
RE: During the bye week, I tried to get banned...
Bill L : 5:44 pm : link : reply
I've never understood why, when people grew tired or dissatisfied with the site, they tried to get banned or emailed the mods and asked to have their account deleted. Why not just not open the site. It’s not like the account takes up space or prevents others from joining. What’s the point of active removal?

Agree, it is bizarre. I can't imagine going to a site, navigating to the forum, logging in, and then asking to be have my account removed. You aren't getting spam in your email by having an open account. Just go to one of the hundred other sites
RE: I'm glad that politics is banned...  
BMac : 11/9/2017 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13684040 BamaBlue said:
Quote:
when informed and intelligent people discuss politics with the intent to express their beliefs, it is interesting. The diatribes here don't have any of the necessary ingredients for an adult conversation... it's hate, emotion and junior high school level branding. Not surprising, this isn't the Brookings Institute or Hillsdale College...


Doesn't matter...it's the same all over, high, low, and in-between.
RE: jcn  
I love liverwurst : 11/9/2017 6:14 pm : link
In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:
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No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.



Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You
RE: RE: During the bye week, I tried to get banned...  
chopperhatch : 11/9/2017 6:18 pm : link
In comment 13684077 Bill L said:
Quote:
In comment 13683886 Big Blue Blogger said:


Quote:


...with a Paul Manafort reference. That didn't work. Anybody for a discussion of Roy Moore's pedophilia?

Sorry... alleged pedophilia.

ve never understood why, when people grew tired or dissatisfied with the site, they tried to get banned or emailed the mods and asked to have their account deleted. Why not just not open the site. It’s not like the account takes up space or prevents others from joining. What’s the point of active removal?


I think it sends a message that thry arent happy with the site. Trying to get banned is like an overt "FUCK YOU GUYS"
I love liverwurst  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 6:19 pm : link
Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.
RE: I love liverwurst  
I love liverwurst : 11/9/2017 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13684109 Eric from BBI said:
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Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.



Ok , Sorry
Oh Eric let him talk  
montanagiant : 11/9/2017 6:24 pm : link
Maybe he will fill us in on the East Coast gay scene and all the Iconic members of it
RE: No matter the eventual outcome  
Sonic Youth : 11/9/2017 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13683818 Frank in Silver Spring said:
Quote:
He's in the BBI Hall of Fame for his artwork alone. The school bus with Tiki, Eli and Coughlin was memorable. Plus, he steered many of us away from tourist-trap Philly cheesesteaks and toward the real thing.

Come back to us, Chris...
ALL YEAR LONG BABY
Did CiP design  
mrvax : 11/9/2017 6:43 pm : link
that amazing "Jerrah's World" poster?
RE: I love liverwurst  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 6:47 pm : link
In comment 13684109 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.


Mentioning Trump gets you banned and liverwurst's post gets a warning. The rules around here are clear as mud. It's no wonder why everyone worth a shit is leaving.
RE: RE: I love liverwurst  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 6:50 pm : link
In comment 13684157 leatherneck570 said:
Quote:
In comment 13684109 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.



Mentioning Trump gets you banned and liverwurst's post gets a warning. The rules around here are clear as mud. It's no wonder why everyone worth a shit is leaving.


I'm not leaving.
RE: RE: jcn  
Sonic Youth : 11/9/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:
Quote:
In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You
Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"

But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"

Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.

Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.

Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.
RE: RE: RE: I love liverwurst  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 6:51 pm : link
In comment 13684160 BrettNYG10 said:
Quote:
In comment 13684157 leatherneck570 said:


Mentioning Trump gets you banned and liverwurst's post gets a warning. The rules around here are clear as mud. It's no wonder why everyone worth a shit is leaving.



I'm not leaving.


...
Chris disagreed  
well...bye TC : 11/9/2017 6:53 pm : link
with the owner of the site. Its been this way for years here.
RE: RE: I love liverwurst  
Sonic Youth : 11/9/2017 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13684157 leatherneck570 said:
Quote:
In comment 13684109 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


Appreciate the kind words, but that post doesn't help. Again, leave the politics off of the site.



Mentioning Trump gets you banned and liverwurst's post gets a warning. The rules around here are clear as mud. It's no wonder why everyone worth a shit is leaving.
Amen. If politics gets you banned, then how the fuck is liverwurst not banned off the site from that post?

And before you get your panties in a bunch liverwurst, no, my feelings aren't hurt and I'm not "entitled". Just calling out the hypocrisy.

Replace "Democrats" with "Republicans" and "progressive mentality" with "conservative mentality" and I wonder how well it would go over
RE: RE: RE: jcn  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 6:54 pm : link
In comment 13684164 Sonic Youth said:
Quote:
In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:


Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.


Yeah liberals are.
I'm just trying to get on Eric's good side  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 6:55 pm : link
so I don't get banned.

Isn't that how it works?
Sonic, to be fair to Eric...  
Overseer : 11/9/2017 6:58 pm : link
it's likely he sees liverwurst for the vapid simp that he is and thus feels it necessary to go easy on him.

I confess I feel slightly bad for him myself. It must suck to have to trudge through life with such an imperceptible degree of intellect.

RE: Sonic, to be fair to Eric...  
BrettNYG10 : 11/9/2017 6:59 pm : link
In comment 13684177 Overseer said:
Quote:
it's likely he sees liverwurst for the vapid simp that he is and thus feels it necessary to go easy on him.

I confess I feel slightly bad for him myself. It must suck to have to trudge through life with such an imperceptible degree of intellect.


It does. :(
Some of you guys blame Eric  
EricJ : 11/9/2017 7:03 pm : link
for the political discussion ban here. The problem though is there are too many members who simply cannot engage in a civil discussion around politics. It always ends up in a personal attack or something nasty. I am on other forums and there are not only political discussions but some have political forums within those sites. Rarely do people make personal attacks. It is kept respectful....not here.

What you can't measure are the number of potential new frequent users who are driven off by a handful of individuals who want to turn this into their own online bar brawl. Although there may have been a few old long time posters who got banned, Eric said this is a business. Not saying that I fully understand where his site revenue comes from but there are ads and more people = more traffic = more $$
RE: Some of you guys blame Eric  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 7:14 pm : link
In comment 13684185 EricJ said:
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for the political discussion ban here. The problem though is there are too many members who simply cannot engage in a civil discussion around politics. It always ends up in a personal attack or something nasty. I am on other forums and there are not only political discussions but some have political forums within those sites. Rarely do people make personal attacks. It is kept respectful....not here.

What you can't measure are the number of potential new frequent users who are driven off by a handful of individuals who want to turn this into their own online bar brawl. Although there may have been a few old long time posters who got banned, Eric said this is a business. Not saying that I fully understand where his site revenue comes from but there are ads and more people = more traffic = more $$


Wrong. There is no political ban. If there was, liverwurst would be gone right now.
Or maybe  
leatherneck570 : 11/9/2017 7:16 pm : link
Thick headed people, also known as "Republicans", are ok with being hypocrites.
Waaaaaaahhhhh...  
BamaBlue : 11/9/2017 7:29 pm : link
where's the BBI safe zone?
RE: RE: RE: jcn  
I love liverwurst : 11/9/2017 7:34 pm : link
In comment 13684164 Sonic Youth said:
Quote:
In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:


Quote:


In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You

Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"

But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"

Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.

Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.

Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.



I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?

You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.
Big Breitbart Interactive  
well...bye TC : 11/9/2017 7:38 pm : link
has been this way for years. There is good team info and some interesting local stuff as wel. You just have to look past the POV and get what you can.
Best fucking thread I've read on BB8 in months!  
aquidneck : 11/9/2017 7:57 pm : link
Definitely worth reading. I'll come back again and again as long as it's up.
.  
Bill2 : 11/9/2017 8:10 pm : link
simp?

You mean simo?
RE: During the bye week, I tried to get banned...  
section125 : 11/9/2017 8:20 pm : link
In comment 13683886 Big Blue Blogger said:
Quote:
...with a Paul Manafort reference. That didn't work. Anybody for a discussion of Roy Moore's pedophilia?

Sorry... alleged pedophilia.


or - is it statutory rape....or a ploy to help the competitor?
RE: RE: If Chris in Philly isn't reinstated  
Rover : 11/9/2017 8:22 pm : link
In comment 13683906 Larry in Pencilvania said:
Quote:
In comment 13683783 EagleFanDan said:


Quote:


then I'm leaving too! FREE CiP!



I thought you left...good to see you. Hope all is well

Oh God, IgglefanDan, yuck, ugh
RE: RE: jcn  
Les in TO : 11/9/2017 8:25 pm : link
In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:
Quote:
In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You
wow you are a troll on par with your fake president! Congrats!
RE: Big Breitbart Interactive  
section125 : 11/9/2017 8:27 pm : link
In comment 13684230 well...bye TC said:
Quote:
has been this way for years. There is good team info and some interesting local stuff as wel. You just have to look past the POV and get what you can.


Good Lord, Sonic Youth and Overseer are the pots calling the kettles.....
Look Eric’s rules are necessary because  
Dave on the UWS : 11/9/2017 8:36 pm : link
the “children” here have shown over the years that they can’t play nice in the sandbox. Having spent some time with Eric at camp,etc I can say with conviction that he’s a really good guy I consider a friend. Politically we share diametrically opposes points of view and we had a few discussions PRIVATELY during the campaign via email. It was NEVER done on BBI (and it never will). The forum is for football and fairly generic NFT period. Its not hard keep this straight.
Liverwurst  
B in ALB : 11/9/2017 8:38 pm : link
Is the worst.

Mention politics - as long as it aligns with a certain position - you get a pass.

CiP gets banned. Meanwhile, trolls, malcontents, fake insiders and kiss asses remain, get polls, and the benefit of the doubt.

Great stuff.
Again  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 8:45 pm : link
with the confirmation bias. And you guys can't even see it in the same thread.

Did Blogger not also get a warning?
RE: RE: RE: RE: jcn  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/9/2017 9:14 pm : link
In comment 13684227 I love liverwurst said:
Quote:
In comment 13684164 Sonic Youth said:


Quote:


In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:


Quote:


In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You

Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"

But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"

Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.

Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.

Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.




I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?

You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.

Really struggling to see how this sort of crap is acceptable.
Liver does this same liberal rant  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 9:20 pm : link
On every thread he posts.
RE: Liver does this same liberal rant  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 9:24 pm : link
In comment 13684340 Modus Operandi said:
Quote:
On every thread he posts.


If he does it again, e-mail me and he's gone.
RE: RE: RE: jcn  
Giants_ROK : 11/9/2017 9:26 pm : link
In comment 13684282 Les in TO said:
Quote:
wow you are a troll on par with your fake president! Congrats!

RE: RE: Liver does this same liberal rant  
Modus Operandi : 11/9/2017 9:39 pm : link
In comment 13684344 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
In comment 13684340 Modus Operandi said:


Quote:


On every thread he posts.



If he does it again, e-mail me and he's gone.


In my 20 years here, I've emailed you exactly once - when someone went in and edited the "Letters to the Editor" part of the page. That was years ago. I've never emailed you about a posted and don't plan to.
Big Baby Interactive.  
madgiantscow009 : 11/9/2017 10:07 pm : link
Modus  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:09 pm : link
Then if I see him make such a post, I will get rid of him, but I don't read every post. Again, if you want to be sure the moderation team sees a problematic post, you (or someone) should e-mail us.
RE: Modus  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 10:20 pm : link
In comment 13684382 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
Then if I see him make such a post, I will get rid of him, but I don't read every post. Again, if you want to be sure the moderation team sees a problematic post, you (or someone) should e-mail us.


So you didn't read this thread? Do you need an e-mail for this one?

I seriously hope your bias is intentional - because if it isn't, you're so tone deaf it's astounding.
jcn  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:35 pm : link
I didn't ban ANYONE for a number of problematic posts in this thread. I officially warned two people and should have warned a third.

I saw the "warning" you're referring to  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 10:45 pm : link
very stern.

We all know it's a dupe - I'll assume you're looking out for Rocky, but that's just a guess.

It's your site, more power to you - but don't be surprised when people don't want to stick around for it. And if that's the route you go, you might want to consider being up front about it.
jcn  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:48 pm : link
You see what you want to see.

If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.
RE: jcn  
jcn56 : 11/9/2017 10:51 pm : link
In comment 13684409 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
You see what you want to see.

If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.


Gotcha - enjoy your time with Rocky, just don't leave him alone with the kids.
I  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 10:55 pm : link
see no evidence that liver is rocky. If you have something on that, please e-mail us (moderator e-mail will send it to all of us and we can look at IP and location info in greater detail).
I've seen at least one inciteful post from liver outside this thread  
Banks : 11/9/2017 11:03 pm : link
but if you want Eric to ban based on this thread, you have about half a dozen people in trouble.
Eh, just send yourself an email...  
trueblueinpw : 11/9/2017 11:34 pm : link
Talking politics is largely an excercise in pontification and bloviating - it changes next to nothing and serves mostly as a basis for inaction and further division. People who continue to belly ache about the no politics rule are basically complaining because they can’t talk to themselves. Just go to Reddit for goodness sake - it has all the politics you crave. Read it, post and flame away to your hearts content! And then sit back and watch absolutely nothing change.
Eric, I need to say that I agree with others that your bias  
yatqb : 11/9/2017 11:40 pm : link
comes through very clearly...but I believe that you don't see it. And I don't think that any feedback you have gotten or will get will lead you to see it.

Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.

One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).

You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.
^^^  
Del Shofner : 11/9/2017 11:46 pm : link
good and fair post, yat.
RE: RE: jcn  
Matt M. : 11/9/2017 11:47 pm : link
In comment 13684410 jcn56 said:
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In comment 13684409 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


You see what you want to see.

If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.



Gotcha - enjoy your time with Rocky, just don't leave him alone with the kids.
This is another one I must have missed years ago. I see a lot of comments about rockyt and kids, but I have no clue what they are referring to. Can someone fill me in.
RE: Eric, I need to say that I agree with others that your bias  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:53 pm : link
In comment 13684432 yatqb said:
Quote:
comes through very clearly...but I believe that you don't see it. And I don't think that any feedback you have gotten or will get will lead you to see it.

Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.

One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).

You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.


Yat... the problem with your argument is the facts don't support it. I am personally involved in very few bannings anymore on BBI. As far as I know, I am the only conservative on the moderation team. Have I banned people for political posts? Yes, but I've banned people from both sides over the years and most were allowed to come right back if they agreed to stop the posts. It's hard to define a redline with political posts because the NFL and politics have become so intertwined, but one clear redline I've stated over and over again is not to start naming politician names because those posts ALWAYS spiral a thread out of control. And I haven't seen posts on BBI bringing up liberal politician names in recent weeks, only conservatives. As I said the other day, Chris did it twice in a matter of minutes. I e-mailed him the next day asking him to work with me on this, and he didn't respond.

Again, I think you guys are seeing what you want to see. Gidie, Boldruler, Gary, and I are not targeting liberals on this site.

If you want to stay out of hot water, stop bringing up politics. If you think we've missed something, e-mail us.

Some regular posters have gotten banned in recent months because they keep it up and up... there are a few on the site right now that are on the verge of getting canned because they keep doing it.

I know it is insulting, but it reminds me of dealing with kids who keep trying to push to see how much the can get away with.

Just stop it. BBI isn't the old BBI anymore. We don't allow politics.
and Yat  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/9/2017 11:59 pm : link
under your assumptions, Big Blue Blogger and Les in Toronto would be gone based on this thread alone.

Now, as Banks said above, we could have chosen to bring the ban hammer down on a number of people here, but I felt this was more of a clear-the-air thread.

Confused? When in doubt, don't get political.
Thanks for responding, Eric. I clearly see this  
yatqb : 11/9/2017 11:59 pm : link
differently that you, but I appreciate the response.
RE: RE: Eric, I need to say that I agree with others that your bias  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 12:03 am : link
In comment 13684436 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
In comment 13684432 yatqb said:


Quote:


comes through very clearly...but I believe that you don't see it. And I don't think that any feedback you have gotten or will get will lead you to see it.

Imo the inconsistency of your reactions to people's posts is driving a lot of great posters away.

One doesn't need to mention Republicans, Democrats, Trump, Clinton, Sanders or anyone else in order to create a political post that is hostile and clearly meant to incite the opposing side of the political spectrum. Yet you seem to ignore may such posts while reacting strongly to those that are not congruent with your political perspective. And your excuse often is that "I didn't see it, email me" when in some cases it is obvious that you had seen it (and in some cases responded on the same thread).

You'll likely label this confirmation bias, but I tried my best to address this respectfully. I've said on several occasions lately that great posters are being banned or making themselves absent from the site, while attention whores and worthless posters remain ad nauseum. And imo that's too bad, because BBI was a better place when those great posters were around.



Yat... the problem with your argument is the facts don't support it. I am personally involved in very few bannings anymore on BBI. As far as I know, I am the only conservative on the moderation team. Have I banned people for political posts? Yes, but I've banned people from both sides over the years and most were allowed to come right back if they agreed to stop the posts. It's hard to define a redline with political posts because the NFL and politics have become so intertwined, but one clear redline I've stated over and over again is not to start naming politician names because those posts ALWAYS spiral a thread out of control. And I haven't seen posts on BBI bringing up liberal politician names in recent weeks, only conservatives. As I said the other day, Chris did it twice in a matter of minutes. I e-mailed him the next day asking him to work with me on this, and he didn't respond.

Again, I think you guys are seeing what you want to see. Gidie, Boldruler, Gary, and I are not targeting liberals on this site.

If you want to stay out of hot water, stop bringing up politics. If you think we've missed something, e-mail us.

Some regular posters have gotten banned in recent months because they keep it up and up... there are a few on the site right now that are on the verge of getting canned because they keep doing it.

I know it is insulting, but it reminds me of dealing with kids who keep trying to push to see how much the can get away with.

Just stop it. BBI isn't the old BBI anymore. We don't allow politics.

Eric,

With all due respect (and I sincerely mean that), it's still bizarre that I love liverwurst is allowed to remain here after this thread. Even after being warned, he then follows up with his "your boyfriend will thank you for it" post and that's not enough for even a timeout? I think that's the sort of thing that causes some to wonder.

I trust your word that you may not have seen it, but it's a pretty egregiously offensive post coming right on the heels of being warned. And his political view is clear. So when he manages to survive that sort of post, I think posters have a reason to at least ask why.

Link - ( New Window )
Great example, Dunk.  
yatqb : 11/10/2017 12:05 am : link
Just the type of thing I was referring to. And it's certainly not a one time thing with him.
This is what happens when the team sucks.  
IIT : 11/10/2017 12:06 am : link
Normally this sort of thread is reserved for the off season...

To be fair  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 12:09 am : link
I don't think liverwurst is playing with a full deck.
Gatorade Dunk  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 12:09 am : link
I have no vest interest in this Liver guy... he is not a familiar poster to me.

Where this thread started going south was when Blogger made his post. I issued a warning. Then Liver stupidly made his post. I issued a warning. The subsequent post you are linking to isn't political. It's him being abusive to others who took offense to his original post and also got abusive.

So from my point-of-view, you've got two sides in a name-calling pissing match over a stupid, original provocative post that he already had been warned about.

The net result... he's on my watch list. But there are other people on this thread who now are on my watch list because they couldn't control themselves either.

I don't understand it. It's pretty stupid to keep bringing up politics on a thread that you know a moderator is engaged on.
and  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 12:11 am : link
again, this crap just reinforces the decision to keep this stuff off the site. It's ridiculous. There are a more than a handful of really stupid posts on this site. It's almost as if people are asking to be banned.
should  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 12:12 am : link
read... stupid posts on this THREAD.
RE: should  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 12:23 am : link
In comment 13684449 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
read... stupid posts on this THREAD.

Thanks, Eric. I appreciate your response and it helps to understand where you're coming from on this. I know you're in an unenviable position with this sort of stuff and I'm certainly not in favor of political posts here (I can find plenty of stuff to argue about on here without having to go down that rabbithole).
Gatorade Dunk  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 12:30 am : link
You're welcome.

To me, this thread represents some of the worst of BBI. You would think people would cool it. Blogger's post was stupid (and he's not a stupid guy). After I warned him, Liver's post was even more stupid. And then of course, others can't let that go and escalate it even further. And then Liver's dander is up and he won't let it go. At this pissing match. And some people wonder why we just delete some threads. It's the ones that turn into the messy pissing matches where no one is innocent that always get deleted now.
RE: RE: RE: RE: jcn  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:43 am : link
In comment 13684227 I love liverwurst said:
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In comment 13684164 Sonic Youth said:


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In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:


Quote:


In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


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No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You

Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"

But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"

Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.

Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.

Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.




I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?

You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.
No, I was calling your post stupid and idiotic.

I should have been clearer: that post was addressed more to the mods at BBI. I don't care who they ban to be honest, but I think it's laughable that your dogshit post gets one response when the mere mention of Manafort gets a sterner warning.

RE: RE: RE: RE: jcn  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:49 am : link
In comment 13684227 I love liverwurst said:
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In comment 13684164 Sonic Youth said:


Quote:


In comment 13684104 I love liverwurst said:


Quote:


In comment 13684063 Eric from BBI said:


Quote:


No, it's not good for BBI.

They think they can go all scorched earth here and take down BBI. The thing is this: I don't care. This started off in 1995 as a labor of love that eventually turned into a business. But I've always said that once it becomes too emotionally expensive to run, I'm out. I've had a great run with the site and hope to keep it going for another decade, but I can walk away.

So I have nothing to lose by banning children who want to keep testing one of the few rules I have in place. If they somehow sabotage the site, I guess they can enjoy their time at Giants.com or some other Giants website, but that's on them.

But they are not going to pressure me to change the rules by constantly misbehaving and testing me.

Take personal responsibility for your own actions.




Eric, truer words couldn't have been spoken!! Unfortunately, the mentality of the " Entitled" is running rampant on this web-page, some people would refer to them as Democrats.

Let's face it, the Giants are a New York Team, a big portion of the fan base in the Tri-State area is full of a progressive mentality. They think the world revolves around their feelings and ideas, however, it doesn't.

I think you're doing a wonderful job here and look forward to the insightful information that I find.

Thank You

Not that it bothers me or that I give a shit, I find it incredible that the mere mention of Manafort and Moore in a post leads to a little warning of "that's what got CiP kicked off"

But this garbage post which is goes above mentioning individuals but is overtly political against "Democrats" and "progressive" isn't ban-worthy... simply a "nice post that doesn't help"

Don't care and I don't think your biased with you ban in terms of politics but it's definitely inconsistent in your response alone.

Sounds like Liverwurst cracked the code! Democrats and progressives are entitled pussies! That's a hot fucking take you got there, brotha.

Fucking stupid and fucking idiotic.




I'm really glad it doesn't bother you! For something that doesn't bother someone, you sure seem to be pretty emotional and angry over it? "Fucking stupid and idiotic"?

You just don't get it, do you? Your opinion means nothing.. Life isn't fair, get over it and go back to hair dresser school tomorrow with a positive attitude, your boyfriend will thank you for it.
Also, I have no idea where you pulled that second paragraph is.

Let me break it down for you: you are old, out of touch, and clearly not really tougher tan anyone else. This isn't really about anyone's political opinion, dipshit. We're merely pointing out that IF there was a true political ban, you'd be gone. Nobody is complaining about anyone's feelings except for the biggest snowflake, who is ironically yourself. You entered the thread spouting bullshit about entitled Democrats and progressives caring too much about their feelings.

For someone who likes to tell other people their "feelings" don't matter, you sure came in here as if anyone gave a shit about yours, lol.

As for "hairdresser school".... let's just say you're not very good at this whole "insult people on the internet" thing. You can't just pull out a random job you think is demeaning and toss it on someone, lol. At least try to string it back to me.

RE: Gatorade Dunk  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 1:01 am : link
In comment 13684457 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
You're welcome.

To me, this thread represents some of the worst of BBI. You would think people would cool it. Blogger's post was stupid (and he's not a stupid guy). After I warned him, Liver's post was even more stupid. And then of course, others can't let that go and escalate it even further. And then Liver's dander is up and he won't let it go. At this pissing match. And some people wonder why we just delete some threads. It's the ones that turn into the messy pissing matches where no one is innocent that always get deleted now.
Well, I read this sequentially and responded before I got to this post. So I apologize for perpetuating it at this point.

You know who should be banned?  
Giants_ROK : 11/10/2017 1:16 am : link
People who turn a page into a wall of beige because they haven't mastered the quote feature.
RE: Blogger  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/10/2017 7:07 am : link
Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
that's the same kind of crap that got Chris in trouble (and he did it more than a few times) and now you are doing it. Consider this a warning.

I'm not really sure what you are trying to accomplish here.
Please accept my apology, Eric. This is my first chance to check back on this thread and... yikes.

FWIW, I was attempting a joke about the state of the Giants. The original version of that post included explicit references to the Seattle and Los Angeles games as reasons for welcoming banishment. I'm not sure that version was any funnier, or that it complied with BBI's terms of reference. At least it was clearer. In any case, I am sorry for crossing the line.

I should probably leave comedy to genuinely funny posters... like Chris, who I hope will be back soon.
One thing about the Roy Moore reference:  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/10/2017 7:47 am : link
I checked before posting, to make sure I wasn't the first to mention the accusations that were published in the Post. The topic had already popped up several times in the Louis C.K. thread (maybe elsewhere too), so I figured it was fair game, especially since Moore is as much an entertainer as a politician. But I still shouldn't have joked about banning.

More generally, I'm not sure there's any good way to separate entertainment from politics, especially with a reality-TV star in the White House. At the end of the day, it's Eric's site, and he makes the call. I may see Manafort and Moore as safe figures for derision (since DJT fired Manafort and endorsed Moore's opponent), but BBI obviously isn't the place for that discussion.
RE: and Yat  
I love liverwurst : 11/10/2017 7:57 am : link
In comment 13684439 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
under your assumptions, Big Blue Blogger and Les in Toronto would be gone based on this thread alone.

Now, as Banks said above, we could have chosen to bring the ban hammer down on a number of people here, but I felt this was more of a clear-the-air thread.

Confused? When in doubt, don't get political.



Eric, you are definitely accurate in saying that Les In Toronto and Big Blue Blogger would have been banned based on this thread alone, unless it's okay to talk about "Your Fake President" . People seem to want to have it both ways.

Like I said before, I was wrong in doing what I did, I'm sorry for putting you in the position to need to defend yourself on your own web-site, I'm kinda pissed at myself actually.

Just so you know, I've been coming here longer then most of the people on this thread. I'm not Artie. I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here. I bet I know more about the Giants then most of the people on this thread. When the site did the big overhaul, I lost my handle and came back.

Sorry again for putting you in the bad spot, won't do it again

...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 8:45 am : link
Sonic, Blogger, Liverwurst... thanks for calming this stuff down. Much appreciated.
RE: RE: and Yat  
EricJ : 11/10/2017 8:48 am : link
In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:
Quote:
I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here.


LOL @ Barilko ! Never met the guy in person, but his character on the site was similar to this guy...
RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Les in TO : 11/10/2017 9:11 am : link
In comment 13684571 EricJ said:
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In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:


Quote:


I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here.




LOL @ Barilko ! Never met the guy in person, but his character on the site was similar to this guy...
maybe you can give that figure as a prize to liver. After all He's been here the longest and knows the most about the Giants and has a bigger dong and a higher net worth than anyone on this thread.
I don't get the analogy of I love liverwurst being  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 9:39 am : link
RT -- they have very different posting styles - and you never see RT take a step back and apologize when he's on a thread rant

so I disagree with whatever has caused this perception

RT also knows not to come on here


- as to Chris - well - I love the guy -- it's really up to him as to whether or not he wishes to return.
...  
Overseer : 11/10/2017 10:11 am : link
In comment 13684409 Eric from BBI said:
Quote:
You see what you want to see.

If you think this place is so mismanaged, just leave.

Quite frankly, I'm tired of the childish complaints.

But it must be worth it around training camp when all those PHAT STACKZ roll in.

I was also banned a few months ago for I have no idea what reason. Another liberal scalp for Eric's wall? You decide...






People just can't help themselves on political posts for some reason  
PatersonPlank : 11/10/2017 10:19 am : link
There is no discussion, it quickly/immediately reduces into name calling and race baiting. Its just like reading either HuffPo or Drudge, no middle just the other guy is wrong. Also its not so easy to just ignore those posts. The politics bleed into football posts as well.

I am glad political posts are banned.
That Alex Jones gif cracks me up.  
BrettNYG10 : 11/10/2017 10:25 am : link
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RE: People just can't help themselves on political posts for some reason  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/10/2017 10:45 am : link
PatersonPlank said:
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... Also its not so easy to just ignore those posts. The politics bleed into football posts as well.
That's true, and it's unfortunate. It's hardly a BBI phenomenon, though. There is political subtext to a lot of what you see between 12:30 and 4:30 on autumn Sundays. That was the case for decades before players started kneeling during the anthem, and it's not exactly subtle. Anyone who loves football but also sees toxic masculinity as a problem has to be somewhat conflicted, because the two things have always gone hand-in-hand.

Particularly with increasing awareness of CTE, drug abuse, domestic violence, and other ills in which the sport has been implicated, it's hard to discuss football's future without some political context. It's no wonder that football discussion turns political and arouses a certain amount of passion: some of these questions touch the fundamental tensions among freedom, order, and social justice - which have strained the union since at least 1789, and aren't going away any time soon.

If we could keep it civil, BBI would be a great place to discuss these topics, because such diverse views and backgrounds are represented here. As Eric has said, the problem isn't politics per se, but our inability to touch the political third rail without igniting tribal firefights. That's why we can't have nice things.
Eric and gidie  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 10:57 am : link
Leaving questions of provocation and consistency completely aside, I don't know of a greater illustrative signal to a leader of a business enterprise that a period of silent self reflection is called for; than making public that a grown man has to grovel for personal forgiveness before being part of a club worth being part of. Or donating to.
Liverwurst is the Anglicanization  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:27 am : link
The German Leberwerst. A food popular throughout Eastern Europe. Russia, Russia is in Eastern Europe. Cuba is a Russian ally. Pepe Silvia sounds like a Cuban name to me.

I love liverwurst > Russia > Cuba > Pepe Silvia

The signs were there all along.
Bill  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:32 am : link
How else are childreb to be kept in line if they aren't smacked on the nose with a newspaper from time to time. Fealty to the throne. Long Live the King.

Eric  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:34 am : link
Shall I email your cat over the liverwurst/Cuba connection, or have you got it from here?
grovel?  
Banks : 11/10/2017 11:41 am : link
He was asked if he would stop posting political stuff. He could have replied 'yes' and leave it at that. I assume Eric made it public since there were a couple dozen posts that said "Chris gets banned why X is allowed here?". He then explained that he could come back instantly given he agrees to stop posting political stuff. That is a far cry from groveling to say the least.
RE: grovel?  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:44 am : link
In comment 13684869 Banks said:
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He was asked if he would stop posting political stuff. He could have replied 'yes' and leave it at that. I assume Eric made it public since there were a couple dozen posts that said "Chris gets banned why X is allowed here?". He then explained that he could come back instantly given he agrees to stop posting political stuff. That is a far cry from groveling to say the least.


You've not been to BBI Banned Land, have you?
correct  
Banks : 11/10/2017 11:48 am : link
not yet and hope never
RE: correct  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:49 am : link
In comment 13684879 Banks said:
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not yet and hope never


It's wild, man. Like Dante on mesculine. They only way out is to pucker up.
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Banks : 11/10/2017 11:54 am : link
lol, that gave me one hell of a visual
FYI  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 11:55 am : link
Last night was Thursday night Pinochle with mgorga, Rocky and Matt in Syracuse.

I weep for CiP's soul.
RE: RE: and Yat  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 11:59 am : link
In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:
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In comment 13684439 Eric from BBI said:


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under your assumptions, Big Blue Blogger and Les in Toronto would be gone based on this thread alone.

Now, as Banks said above, we could have chosen to bring the ban hammer down on a number of people here, but I felt this was more of a clear-the-air thread.

Confused? When in doubt, don't get political.




Eric, you are definitely accurate in saying that Les In Toronto and Big Blue Blogger would have been banned based on this thread alone, unless it's okay to talk about "Your Fake President" . People seem to want to have it both ways.

Like I said before, I was wrong in doing what I did, I'm sorry for putting you in the position to need to defend yourself on your own web-site, I'm kinda pissed at myself actually.

Just so you know, I've been coming here longer then most of the people on this thread. I'm not Artie. I was here for; the Matt In Syracuse Osi prediction, Joey In Virginia Fights, GG blowouts, Bill Barilko , Giant Kurt DAYS. LPete was one of my first friends here. I bet I know more about the Giants then most of the people on this thread. When the site did the big overhaul, I lost my handle and came back.

Sorry again for putting you in the bad spot, won't do it again
One thing though:

it's 2017, get with the times. Insults like "durr your boyfriend tee hee" are stupid, overdone, and honestly just archaic at this point. A relic of the old times. There's nothing wrong with being gay, there's definitely gay NFL players, and probably gay users of this site.

It's not clever and you just look like an ass.

It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.

RE: That Alex Jones gif cracks me up.  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13684744 BrettNYG10 said:
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I'm partial to the Pepe Silvia one.

My sis and I love Always Sunny, so I'm getting her this wall art as part of her bday gift next week.



looks dope
RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 12:00 pm : link
In comment 13684900 Sonic Youth said:
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It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.


What a puff, amirite?
RE: RE: RE: RE: and Yat  
Sonic Youth : 11/10/2017 12:03 pm : link
In comment 13684904 Modus Operandi said:
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In comment 13684900 Sonic Youth said:


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In comment 13684538 I love liverwurst said:


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It's not about "feelings", it's about human decency. I have many gay friends and none of them deserve to have their sexual orientation be a childish insult that people think is a zinger.




What a puff, amirite?
i just have 2 many fweelings :'(
Banks  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 12:09 pm : link
I assume that covers what I was addressing with my use of the word.

The use of "grovel" is actually a quote from ex BBI members most of us would recognize as functional and competent and balanced in most non bbi life challenges.

I make no comments about Erics absolute right to define rules. ( actually agree about a ban on politics).

My comments, if I made them all, would be restricted to application of those rules and attitude. Usually, those are the precursors to an offering which will erode regardless of content improvements ( and imho the site has better content than it ever did pre 2016).

So usually, good business leaders need to carefully examine the attitude and administration by which they produce the customer experience. Even more so if the drive is to enlarge the potential donor pool.
What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
ZogZerg : 11/10/2017 12:14 pm : link
I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.
RE: Banks  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 1:07 pm : link
In comment 13684911 Bill2 said:
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So usually, good business leaders need to carefully examine the attitude and administration by which they produce the customer experience. Even more so if the drive is to enlarge the potential donor pool.


Bill - I am interested to know what you would have us do.

We post policy and rules, we attempt to communicate them, we even start threads about them, and email parties about their violations.

Currently, we ask that suspended posters (and the vast majority of them are repeat violators) to acknowledge that they violated the rules and indicate that they won't do it again.

Each violator is taken on a case by case basis -- and some just acknowledge what they have done and say they won't do it again, and others debate with us our right to suspend them or even what constitutes a violation. The latter are generally unsuccessful in returning.

We are not trying to embarrass anyone - and Modus -- I really don't remember you puckering up - even a little.

I'm not sure what else you would have us do to get the point across and am interested in hearing what else we should be doing for illumination purposes.
RE: What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/10/2017 1:19 pm : link
In comment 13684917 ZogZerg said:
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I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.

*than
RE: RE: Banks  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 1:20 pm : link
In comment 13685006 gidiefor said:
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We are not trying to embarrass anyone - and Modus -- I really don't remember you puckering up - even a little.


I don't go downtown without dinner.
RE: RE: RE: Banks  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 1:32 pm : link
In comment 13685021 Modus Operandi said:
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I don't go downtown without dinner.


Doesn't that poke a hole in the accuracy of your statement?
RE: RE: RE: RE: Banks  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13685035 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13685021 Modus Operandi said:


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I don't go downtown without dinner.



Doesn't that poke a hole in the accuracy of your statement?


There won't be any hole pokin either.

Now bring some oysters and lobster and we'll see what happens.
: (  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 2:07 pm : link
I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks
Fwiw  
Modus Operandi : 11/10/2017 2:15 pm : link
I did apologize to you personally.
Gidie  
Bill2 : 11/10/2017 2:21 pm : link
Understood. Send you an email over the weekend. I think there are ways proven to work in other similar businesses that can make this aspect of the site better for you and for posters.
geez  
bc4life : 11/10/2017 4:11 pm : link
all this friggin drama over a football site, WTF, I mean WTF?
A problem I see with NFTs  
njm : 11/10/2017 5:11 pm : link
Not speaking about non-football sports threads and such, but when a world event or financial thread subject was taken seriously and discussion was more important than scoring points (political or otherwise) these threads used to last for days. Now, unless they go off the rails (prior to deletion) they sail down the board and leave the front page quickly. The most recent example was the thread on Saudi Arabia, There was a little provocitation (damn I sound like Bo Deitle) but a number of folks made solid contributions. It's nowhere to be found. Have people lost interest?

Part of it stems from the fact that Ronnie and Phil don't seem to post here any more, and Dune, Bill and Reb seem to post less frequently. But those had some value. I'd like to see away for them to make a return.
RE: : (  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/10/2017 5:38 pm : link
In comment 13685077 gidiefor said:
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I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks


Hi gidie
njm  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 11/10/2017 5:46 pm : link
that thread is still up.

It's hard to discuss what is going on in Saudi Arabia (which is HUGE) without bringing in domestic politics
RE: RE: : (  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 6:09 pm : link
In comment 13685325 Larry in Pencilvania said:
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In comment 13685077 gidiefor said:


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I used to love oysters and lobsters -- thanks



Hi gidie


Hi Mr Larry
by the way  
gidiefor : Mod : 11/10/2017 6:11 pm : link
for those who care - Chris is reinstated
RE: by the way  
YAJ2112 : 11/10/2017 6:40 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


So his clique failed to bring down BBI, eh? Another Philadelphia failure.
RE: by the way  
Larry in Pencilvania : 11/10/2017 7:28 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


Does this mean he'll finally answer my email
RE: RE: What a bunch of whining babies on this site  
micky : 11/10/2017 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13685020 Gatorade Dunk said:
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I'm impressed Eric has kept this site going as long as he has. He has a lot more patience that I do.


*than


wouldn't blame him if he decided to shutdown this site..and deal with all this constant drama..lol
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Bill2 : 11/10/2017 8:12 pm : link
Not to be argumentative but it's easy to talk in depth about Saudi Arabia's current events without bringing in the USA.

Much less our politicians or domestic windbags.

Also...current events there are actually likely a sign it's becoming less relevant than the the Kingdom used to be
RE: by the way  
EricJ : 11/10/2017 10:43 pm : link
In comment 13685359 gidiefor said:
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for those who care - Chris is reinstated


The least he could do is at least respond to this thread and let everyone know what he did while on on vacation.

Gidie.. are you his parole officer?
Has anyone considered that  
Joey in VA : 11/11/2017 8:13 am : link
Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isn’t the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.
RE: Has anyone considered that  
micky : 11/11/2017 8:23 am : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isn’t the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.



if that's the case, which no doubt it's the truth, then Eric should allow political posts..thats the mother of all hotbed, click generating, controversial topics ... Boom!
All the talk about 'groveling' seems weird to me.  
Big Blue Blogger : 11/11/2017 9:19 am : link
If admitting that you did something stupid and apologizing for it is groveling, I guess I groveled. Personally, I don't see it that way. We all do dumb stuff. Own it and move on.

I have no idea whether the ban-hammer has been wielded in a completely fair and balanced way. That seems like an awfully high standard; Eric and the other mods aren't wearing black robes.

RE: Has anyone considered that  
Sonic Youth : 11/11/2017 11:09 am : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isn’t the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.
come on bro

the mod team isnt banning people for a couple hundred page views. how absurdly outlandish
someone should start a thread asking advice about  
Del Shofner : 11/11/2017 2:15 pm : link
the best cheesesteak places in Philly - that's the only way to know for sure whether Chris is back.
There's only one explanation for Cippy's silence  
Modus Operandi : 11/11/2017 2:21 pm : link
Since being brought back...


RE: njm  
njm : 11/12/2017 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13685333 Eric from BBI said:
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that thread is still up.

It's hard to discuss what is going on in Saudi Arabia (which is HUGE) without bringing in domestic politics


Eric - I guess what I am expressing is regret that those threads no longer have legs. Some used to go off the rails and get deleted, but many stayed on the front page for days and had a lot of good commentary. That thread headed for page 2 in an hour or two, and while resurrected once or twice, never got the comments that similar threads in the past got.
RE: Has anyone considered that  
Gatorade Dunk : 11/12/2017 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13685637 Joey in VA said:
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Banning him generated a lot of page views and clicks as this drama has unfolded? Isn’t the goal to get people talking when you run any business in the realm of entertainment? You all really think Ben Affleck dated J Lo or maybe the studio wanted to save its ass by generating a story to get people to watch a movie. People like Stephen A Smith have jobs because they stir the pot and get the rabble rousers out to call in or write in how much they hate him.

Negative coverage is still coverage which makes people in charge do seemingly heavy handed (sorry Jordan) and silly things. It creates a controversy which stirs up a hornets nest which gets people.....talking! Bottom line, this was good for business. It does not have to be sensible.

So is that why you're here?
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