But if we dont it will be because Niners need to play because Shannahan isnt going anywhere and we wont because our players probably think McAdoo is a goner or dont care if he is
We have always had a horrible play design on our screens. Plus, there is an element of faking another player which we are horrible at. The ball is snapped and everyone knows what is coming. Heck.. we can see it from the couch.
To get that high round pick, you'll be thanking him for his abysmal quarterbacking come early '18. Once again, despite pitch perfect practices they can't give their qb any protection and....they cannot generate any defensive pass rushes.
That blitz was so bad that the QB stepped into that throw with literally NOBODY in front of him. He could have run for the first down too easily. Full field of vision
on that play friggen King was late getting set
Pugh basically whiffed defenders helmet is stopping Eli
from getting two hands on it ..
Guess the week off for Jack Rabbit paid off
Also absolutely the right call. Manning made the brain dead decision to try and flip the ball forward and got it knocked out before he could.
No he didn't you need to watch it again. It's the same thing if thrown overhand, the ball was moving forward when knocked out. I know you want to believe it wasn't because of your Eli hard on, but let's not make shit up just to feed that
being beaten badly is no excuse for that idiocy by Eli. There is no excuse for what he did.
Certainly, Eli needs to work on his grip strength. Blame Abby. But is too much to ask Pugh not to suck so bad? If even he lays down like a log, he would serve as a bigger impediment than his effort on that play.
That's the big difference between last season and this season. Our best players on defense (Collins, Jenkins, Vernon) played lights out a year ago, and are playing like shit this year.
Esp on the o line the giants could be right back to being a good team next year. I continue to be stunned some people are ready to jettison Eli. He is not nor ever was the problem.
we spend a crap load of money on a defensive front and nothing on linebackers. Our stars are on the line and we got crap for linebackers. So we rush only three linemen. Touchdown 9ers.
Idiocy
Jenkins has made at least three business decisions already
If Spags is not fucking gone, then screw this team. I keep Mac over spags... Offense atleast showing up... Spags defense has giving up... he can go and take this fucking defense with him... Pussies.
Would bench Jenkins. How are those free agent signings from last year working out now? Snacks really good. Vernon and Jenkins have been a complete waste of cap money this year.
Would bench Jenkins. How are those free agent signings from last year working out now? Snacks really good. Vernon and Jenkins have been a complete waste of cap money this year.
Vernons been hurt, and far as I can tell Snacks has been playing hard all season
But JPP and Jenkins belong on the bench right now. Theyre playing fucking half ass football
I dont think I have ever been as made at a player as I am at Janoris Jenkins. I wouldnt let Mac on the plane home if Jenkins plays in the second half. I have never seen a guy basically not try to the extent he hasnt.
If Spags is not fucking gone, then screw this team. I keep Mac over spags... Offense atleast showing up... Spags defense has giving up... he can go and take this fucking defense with him... Pussies.
They are both gone after the season along with Reese. This is embarassing.
I mean I get it the team is losing, but you are paid so much and in theory you love the game and should have an innate competitive spirit. Just as a man, how do you check you nuts at the door and straight give up.
with the business decision. Like Apple on the third and 33 last week.
Ten straight games we've given up a TD to a TE. And that was a long TD.
Why is it so hard to find a coverage LB, even if they can't tackle or rush the QB? That has been a problem for years. Another reason Reese should be fired.
looked that way to me too. But Jenkins, my lord. How do you just give up? Why don't the other Giants smack him in the fucking head? How do you face your teammates?>
RE: Our pass rush is so poor
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They can't sniff a screen out ......
Nope they overpursue it to the perfection of the offense
My point was you have to feel when all 3 are let lose
at the same time ....but this defense is so out of sync
they easily single up a defender righ down the middle
with nobody back to defend just like Collins did last week
I dont care what your record is, I am fucking steaming that this shitload of a defense has flat out giving up. they dont like the coach, fine, but how can professional players give up? if the coach is gone, then these goons need to go with him because I dont want them on my team.
I mean I get it the team is losing, but you are paid so much and in theory you love the game and should have an innate competitive spirit. Just as a man, how do you check you nuts at the door and straight give up.
I think it comes from the fact that since it's a lost season the business decision for them is to not get hurt at this point
This team quit! At least on defense. Eli won't let the offense quit but the defense is a joke. Also I read jackrabbit got all his guaranteed money so he can be cut or traded at the end of this year and who knows maybe that's what he wants. Sure looks like it and as good as he is when he plays, this kind of shit gets you a one way ticket home
I mean I get it the team is losing, but you are paid so much and in theory you love the game and should have an innate competitive spirit. Just as a man, how do you check you nuts at the door and straight give up.
I think it comes from the fact that since it's a lost season the business decision for them is to not get hurt at this point
hurt? You need to fucking play, you get a game check and I get that maybe in a one win season you don't go balls out and risk everything like a mad man. But that shit Jenkins just pulled should get you benched in fucking high school.
Pathetic, the depths to which this team has fallen. it is a fucking joke
When the coaches are clueless, how the hell are the players supposed to have any idea what is going on?
Because these fuckers are professionals, They played competitive football there whole lifes.. if they need a coach to get them to show up and play, then screw them.. These are not bums off the street, they flat out quit. I dont care about the coach, but who the hell wants quitters on this team.
Is it possible Jenkins just got frozen in place by a juke?
At some point it's not about x's and o's but it's about the Willys and the Joe's.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
Vernon played okay, not great, last season but everyone attributed his okay play to a broken hand. He's hurt again this year and has made NO impact at all. I'd say he's a bad signing to date. We have a ton of cap money tied up at the defensive end position. How's that working out?
RE: Is it possible Jenkins just got frozen in place by a juke?
and aside from one play, hes getting blocked like a sled on every play. Zero fucking effort to shed the block and make a play. In some cases hes getting shoved easily about 5-10 yards off the ball
IMO he was one of the anonymous cowards who whined about McAdoo this week, and he belongs on the bench. Hes playing like a fucking loser right now.
and aside from one play, hes getting blocked like a sled on every play. Zero fucking effort to shed the block and make a play. In some cases hes getting shoved easily about 5-10 yards off the ball
IMO he was one of the anonymous cowards who whined about McAdoo this week, and he belongs on the bench. Hes playing like a fucking loser right now.
He's been shit the entire season, pretty much. I'm sure that contract will age well..
Vernon played okay, not great, last season but everyone attributed his okay play to a broken hand. He's hurt again this year and has made NO impact at all. I'd say he's a bad signing to date. We have a ton of cap money tied up at the defensive end position. How's that working out?
All true, no argument
RE: Is it possible Jenkins just got frozen in place by a juke?
Looked like JJ was expecting him to go back inside and he cut outside.
Maybe, you give a guy the benefit of the doubt if he didnt have about three or four other suspicious plays and wasnt suspended the week before for doing something against the coaches rules.
but they never quit. Eli is playing for his life.. I dont see any quiting on this offense... just lack of talent..can not say this about this fucking Defense..
At some point it's not about x's and o's but it's about the Willys and the Joe's.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
Mu point of view is that keeping this from happening is one of the primary jobs of the HC. The DC and OC handle the X's and O's. The HC handles moral, leadership, vision, etc. McAdoo still operates as if he is an OC, not a HC.
Thats pretty sad with half the season left?! Id say its only going to get worse, especially with the schedule we have coming up. I never thought Id see the Giants play this poorly.
shit on Jenkins this is a rudderless team and who the hell
wants to get killed on a 1-9 team .
Are they really not trying ?
Several dont seem to be trying too hard
I can live with guys who arent talented enough to make plays. Our current starting LBs are backup quality at best, theyre not going to suddenly become Ray Lewis.
But Id hope and expect to at least see our defense trying to fight off blocks and busting their ass after ball carriers. Seems like a lot of guys standing around if the play isnt right at them
RE: You just hope there are some guys in the locker room
At some point it's not about x's and o's but it's about the Willys and the Joe's.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
Mu point of view is that keeping this from happening is one of the primary jobs of the HC. The DC and OC handle the X's and O's. The HC handles moral, leadership, vision, etc. McAdoo still operates as if he is an OC, not a HC.
McAdoo sucks. The icing on the cake is defense giving up and the JV specials. He was given the job, undeserved, because he was credited with "saving" the offense" after 2013, credit we know now he does not deserve and keeping stability for Eli. Giants have had the worst offense in a decade for two years now under his leadership.
He needs to go, the day after the season ends. He never should have been given the job in he first place.
JPP was an awful signing. His body of work this year is just terrible. At least Wynn gives effort every down.JPP collecting his doe . No surprise.
The sad thing about JPP is that contract was completely unnecessary, we could have franchised him again and been done with him if gave a performance like this
The play where the RB turned the corner and tiptoed down the sideline was one. Zero effort. Fuck him. Sit him down now, cut after the game. Absolutely not competing.
all accepted that the talent is less than what was perceived before the season started. That's on Reese. But we still want to see the players try hard.
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
all accepted that the talent is less than what was perceived before the season started. That's on Reese. But we still want to see the players try hard.
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
I can say that i have not seen a single player on Offense quit.. this is on the defense.
At some point it's not about x's and o's but it's about the Willys and the Joe's.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
I know Limerick gets shit on, but this post is 100 percent true
all accepted that the talent is less than what was perceived before the season started. That's on Reese. But we still want to see the players try hard.
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
I 100% agree on Flowers, his talent is what his talent is, but the guy tries every down to be a good player. He does that in the face of withering criticism. He may not be a good football player (at LT) but he is a good man.
If they're building for the future and this is a young player's growing pains, I guess that's ok. But if he makes it to next training camp, he should have competition. He really needs to show that "generational" leg and turn into a weapon. Right now he seems like just another jittery rookie.
loss the rest of our games and hope Dallas, Phili, and Washington win the rest of their games so they get lousy draft positions and we get great draft positions. Hopefully a better GM to make the picks too.
Vernon was trotting on the Hyde run called back ...
I guess he redeemed himself with the Int .
But the play before he wasn't even trying pretty sad maybe
thats the plan shoot for the draft pick . lol
Yup, but they wont. Theres no discipline and no accountability right now. Wheres the leadership on this team?
How the fuck are we supposed to root for a player like him going forward?? We expect him to just try when things are going good? Someone should bitch slap that man. Landon Collins you call yourself a leader... where you at??
Yup, but they wont. Theres no discipline and no accountability right now. Wheres the leadership on this team?
EXACTLY!! Where is the coach or player getting in Jenkins f'ing face right now! How can this team just stand around and let this bitch get away with quitting on the team out there!
RE: Lost in the obvious and justified criticism of Jenkins and ...
Vernon did not even attempt to hustle it was pathetic to watch . It's not just him but when we shit the bed in the
1970's you did not see this they still played hard even when totally overmatched .
seriously, I am not saying he has not been part of the problem. But between the defense giving up, the o line situation etc. I wish he would go on an epic rant or something.
Janoris Jenkins Finished his career at North Alabama and not Florida. He must have been a real pain in the butt for urban Meyer to keep a guy like Aaron Hernandez but kick Jenkins out of Gainesville
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
Banks was not happy with all the man coverage calls and a little too much blitzing. The blitzes aren't getting there and even when they don't blitz, too much man coverage that's not working.
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
and do not get home with it. AT the same time, they are playing a deep zone allowing the underneath pass... more than enough to move the chains. It really is a horrible scheme
There has to be wholesale changes this off-season starting at the top. If they dont make changes, then well be back to the Giants of the 70s, with a shitty defense however.
they need to blow up the staff and Reese no matter how
they finish bring most of them back and with some smart moves
get the lines fixed . get a legit RB .
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
Jenkins is a quitter. I don't want quitters on this team. He and Apple can both get lost as far as Im concerned
and do not get home with it. AT the same time, they are playing a deep zone allowing the underneath pass... more than enough to move the chains. It really is a horrible scheme
Yeah that Defense design on that 3rd down made zero sense
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
Due respect, but thats BS. Everyone hasnt wasted a chance to rip McAdoo and Reese (and rightly so, theyre most responsible for building and coaching this group of slugs)
But when a player looks like hes giving about 50% out there, either hes hurt and should be sitting, or hes playing like a dog and should be sitting
And were well within our rights to rip players who look like shit as much as we are the coaches and GM
This game is unwatchable. The team needs to do something
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
When Eli makes a nice play, I say it (go look back on every game thread if you have nothing else to do). I call it like I see it. Jenkins has been on top of his game for MOST of his time as a Giants. Today he looks like shit. My earlier post was in response to the people who want Jenkins GONE. BTW, I also never said Eli should be gone and he has been struggling for a while.
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
And people wonder why the Giants "culture" might be toxic.
despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
When Eli makes a nice play, I say it (go look back on every game thread if you have nothing else to do). I call it like I see it. Jenkins has been on top of his game for MOST of his time as a Giants. Today he looks like shit. My earlier post was in response to the people who want Jenkins GONE. BTW, I also never said Eli should be gone and he has been struggling for a while.
I will confirm he did compliment Eli on a couple of plays today
He has flat out declined contact over and over. Cut him. If they don't, the film watch of this game is going to be brutal on him. Wait until the players who still care get a load of the way this guy quit.
Even if they miraculously win the rest of the games this year
The Giants are the worst team in the NFL. How did it come to this? The day they fired Coughlin, bet they wish they had that one back to either keep him, or clean house and fire the real problem which is Jerry Reese and co.
McAdoo? He is just a deer in headlights who can not save this sinking ship. He should never have been given this job.
Need to clean house anyway, and then hire a new GM who gets a say in hiring a new coach and staff. No point firing McAdoo until were ready to fire Reese too
Besides, I dont want to see these bums rewarded with a new coach for quitting on the team. If nothing else I hope McAdoo makes them practice even harder on Saturdays just to piss them off
It's embarrassing. The 49ers fans are really excited to be on their way to their first win.
Shephard appeared to stop his route on the third down play. That should have been a big gain. Hard to fault him since he has otherwise been the only bright spot today.
There are guys on defense who are purposely tanking it.
That wasnt an overthrow. It was a WR who doesnt care anymore.
I mean, shepard looks like he came to play. he has made some big plays already in this shit show. Did he just make a mental error or feel a twinge in his leg? He did stop running though.
It doesn't look like he is ever coaching on the sidelines. I may see him clapping or slight cheering, but largely he is silent, looks up at the screen but overall silent. I don't see him talking to the OL or the defense like Parcells or Belechick let alone into his headset to other coaches. It is the strangest thing I have seen from a head coach and he has been that way dating back to last year. I have always noticed this. He could be doing this off camera but I see it with so many other coaches game after game. Just strange
It doesn't look like he is ever coaching on the sidelines. I may see him clapping or slight cheering, but largely he is silent, looks up at the screen but overall silent. I don't see him talking to the OL or the defense like Parcells or Belechick let alone into his headset to other coaches. It is the strangest thing I have seen from a head coach and he has been that way dating back to last year. I have always noticed this. He could be doing this off camera but I see it with so many other coaches game after game. Just strange
Good Observation. I noticed that too. no emotion, no talking to any of the players or coaches. Just looking out with a blank face but he did take off his sunglasses in the third quarter.
Non-the-less. Has there been a team in the NFC East that has been this bad? I mean this is historically bad stuff. Ive never seen a team this much out of synch, fundamentally flawed, lack of discipline. I say it again, is there any way this staff comes back next year?
I'm gonna start a new thread on this. A lot of these players will be back next year but how can you root for these guys ever again? It's made me rethink everything cause I can deal with them being bad but this is something much worse
If you are a real giant fan it's hard to watch the QB want to win when it's not possible.. How is the kicker still on the team when when he should have been gone 4 weeks ago?
If you listen to the radio they are talking g abou
happened to Collins man? I mean Wtf he was all fucking pro. He looked like a pop warner ten year old in his first game on that one. Brutal
It is clearly obvious that the DBs are not playing. The LBs are bad and the Dline is playing hard. But the DBs are flat out not making plays. It will be clear on tape and whomever takes over this team will need to deal with that.
this shit is a disgrace, this is the worst effort ive seen in my 38 years watching this team. The seventies giants fought hard, they just sucked. Nothing professional about this group of players.
If you are a real giant fan it's hard to watch the QB want to win when it's not possible.. How is the kicker still on the team when when he should have been gone 4 weeks ago?
If you listen to the radio they are talking about the obvious but they are talking about the coaching campaign and how absolutely opposite they are.
As much as it is likely they both get canned, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Reese stays. Tbe players can play. They just aren't. The coach however is gone maybe tomorrow.
right in the middle of the play WTF Bogart he sucks ass
Yeah, that was still an embarrassing play, but a bit less embarrassing when you see Wynn get completely pulled back away from the play and then Munson held like that, too.
you can't possibly promote Spags. Maybe fire both? Sullivan as HC and one of the position coaches to DC? Has a team ever fired both HC and DC in the middle of a season? And yes, yikes it's just the middle of the season!
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
a winless team. We are officially approaching "the fumble" territory. It is bad enough now that firing BM and Reese should occur tomorrow. At least send a positive message to the fans. These are extraordinary circumstances; midseason firing makes more sense now.
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Out of curiosity, what did we all want that we deserve? And by you saying you all..., Im guessing whatever fucked up narrative youre going to concoct doesnt include you?
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Horse shit
TC had some bad moments. Meltdown against Eagles etc. But the team NEVER looked like this. That is a fucking fact. You could have wanted him gone, but I would but dollars to donuts that if ownership had a time machine they would have either cleaned house or kept TC.
The Giants are now the worst team in football.
Reese is a clown who can not build a roster. HE CAN NOT DO IT. This is the culmination of his vision.
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
He's certainly not getting his money's worth of good play and coaching.
Mara is the main culprit in this fiasco. He took half measure after half measure and now we have what we have. Reese should have been fired when Coughlin was. If he would have fired everybody after 2013, two years before he fired Coughlini wonder if things would have been different. Who knows.
Ill finally say it. Eli. You are a part of the problem
Are we watching the same game? The one where our D has given up a shit ton of yards and 31 points to an 0-9 team! Who by the way have just punted for the 1st time in the game 2/3 of the way through the 4th qtr!
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
From Hurricane Sandy until the time TC was fired, we were freaking awful.
TC had some bad moments. Meltdown against Eagles etc. But the team NEVER looked like this. That is a fucking fact.
Oh, they most certainly did.
I must've missed when we had absolutely no offense, defense, or ST under Coughlin and were unanimously considered the worst team in the NFL. My memory must be failing me.
He has to go. Need to send a message and get these guys playing again. The defense backs have quit.Find out who wants to be on the team next year.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
RE: I still laugh at how good Sy and gidie thought we were in camp.
He has to go. Need to send a message and get these guys playing again. The defense backs have quit.Find out who wants to be on the team next year.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
Except I didn't say that.
But, by all means, keep pining for those glory days of a 22-34 record over 56 games.
He has to go. Need to send a message and get these guys playing again. The defense backs have quit.Find out who wants to be on the team next year.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
Players still have to save their jobs.
Obviously. But why should they be rewarded for quitting on their coach?
Looked better then it really was. It appears that it was way overrated. Now we have to rebuild the whole team, which will not happen in one year. I do think there are some capable parts, but we need tons more talent and we need a new Head Coach and Staff. Lastly, the Gam must be held accountable once and for all!
But to pretend that they didn't stink at the end under TC is delusional.
No one is saying they didn't stink. But there are a few factors left over from those days. Reese...McAdoo...Eli...and we still stink. Coincidence?
Yes, Mara. Mara should have acted earlier. Bringing in McAdoo to spare Coughlin was idiotic. Firing Coughlin without Reese was idiotic. Half Measures usually are not effective
absolutely destroyed the last five years of Eli's career with his atrocious drafting and FA signings.
We can argue about whether the Giants should take a QB next year, and if so, who that should be. But is there any argument that Reese and company should be fired?
It's better now that we find out who Ben is rather than go 8-8 6-10 then 5-11 and fire him in 3 years... I want a stud QB and rebuild this the OL. Take the pieces on D and O build around them and find a system that works... it can be done.. and it can be done quickly but we need smart people at the helm.
this td may be enough the giants and Mara say they fought hard
Though McAdoo is a terrible HC I doubt they get rid of him mid se4ason. We'll be lucky if they fire him after this season. And really lucky if they get rid of Reece as well.
Jesus Christ
Leave the whole fucking team in santa clara
Bye bye Reese, bye bye Marc Ross. All The best.
JPP went to Rutgers?
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ass-buddy JPP on that one.
JPP went to Rutgers?
He LOVES JPP.
Yup. 1000%. That is the Giants players goal today for sure
He's the DE. Hes got to set the edge regardless of where the ball is. He can't over pursue... Because then it's a long fucking run.
Come on.
then a shank punt
I hope they don't make the same mistake two years in a row and send leave him off of the roster next year going into week 1.
So do I. Didnt we cut him?
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So do I. Didnt we cut him?
Play off TD last year as well
That's classic Eli (goes back to the Gilbride days). He goes for the home run on 3rd and short and then on 3rd and long he throws a 3 yard pass.
They're headed fast toward 0-16.
This would be the one year a horrible 1-15 team can't even get the first pick.
on top of that, you should see our completion percentage on long passes. May as well just quick kick and surprise them with that.
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I hope they don't make the same mistake two years in a row and send leave him off of the roster next year going into week 1.
Hindsight. But I'd take King and an OL over Marshall and no King.
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So do I. Didnt we cut him?
. Because he doesnt play sT, unlike Lewis
STILL looking for his 1st tackle
Patience. There's a long way to go in this one.
Can't blame him. Jodie Foster as an astrophysicist? Matthew McConnaughey as a spiritual advisor? Pllllease...
Popular player in the lockerroom....perhaps a glue guy.....but who needs leadership..?
Instead we keep Calvin Munson who is not, at least right now, an NFL player. Weird
If you mean by future, he will be a starI agree. But he should definitely have a future with us, he can be a meaningful contributor for years to come.
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Can't blame him. Jodie Foster as an astrophysicist? Matthew McConnaughey as a spiritual advisor? Pllllease...
Tremendous
Which normally i wouldnt mind because i never root for loses, but, that might keep this shitshow leadership in place for next season.
Same reason our oline guys cannot listen for "ready go" from Eli on the cadence which btw never changes, but instead jumps with the false start.
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Can't blame him. Jodie Foster as an astrophysicist? Matthew McConnaughey as a spiritual advisor? Pllllease...
Hahahaha.
I dont root for losses but i would be happy if we lost.
We have always had a horrible play design on our screens. Plus, there is an element of faking another player which we are horrible at. The ball is snapped and everyone knows what is coming. Heck.. we can see it from the couch.
Unbearable.
I did not like it the moment they announced it. Watched his college game videos after and then I hated the pick.
Unbearable.
eventually if we are lucky we will get to see one of his Rodney Dangerfield wardrobe selections.
Mercifully so.
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had a nice run by Darkwa on that drive. Good blocking by Flowers and Smith.
He then limped off .....
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Can't blame him. Jodie Foster as an astrophysicist? Matthew McConnaughey as a spiritual advisor? Pllllease...
Hahaha lol!! Plus an ignominious end for Viper from Top Gun. What a steaming pile that movie was
This game sucks the big white mint.
That team has had a lot of great players. They would run out of numbers.
Pugh beaten like a drum
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Eli trying to do too much
No to mention King late getting set
Incredibly dumb.
Not allowed to say "Christmas" here anymore.
Bowling with the football is not the same as a forward pass.
Eli hitting the lanes early.
Yeah but that's how he responds to every question.
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Bowling with the football is not the same as a forward pass.
Eli hitting the lanes early.
Where in the rule book does it say the ball can't be thrown underhand?
we have guys with big mouths and politics on and off the field that do not deliver or take care of business on field.
That blitz was so bad that the QB stepped into that throw with literally NOBODY in front of him. He could have run for the first down too easily. Full field of vision
Pugh basically whiffed defenders helmet is stopping Eli
from getting two hands on it ..
Guess the week off for Jack Rabbit paid off
No he didn't you need to watch it again. It's the same thing if thrown overhand, the ball was moving forward when knocked out. I know you want to believe it wasn't because of your Eli hard on, but let's not make shit up just to feed that
Certainly, Eli needs to work on his grip strength. Blame Abby. But is too much to ask Pugh not to suck so bad? If even he lays down like a log, he would serve as a bigger impediment than his effort on that play.
The cure for your team's ailments.
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I have watched it 4 times and his arm is moving forward with the ball in control before he goes down
Bowling with the football is not the same as a forward pass.
Eli hitting the lanes early.
Where in the rule book does it say the ball can't be thrown underhand?
Nowhere. Relax, it was a joke.
Kelvin Sheppard isnt that good but at least hes playing hard
Funny, a guy who was out of the NFL for 8 weeks doesnt seem to have a problem with hard Saturday practices or fines from coaches
That's the big difference between last season and this season. Our best players on defense (Collins, Jenkins, Vernon) played lights out a year ago, and are playing like shit this year.
If they lose I think it will happen
Maybe if Vernon wasn't going in the opposite direction.
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If they lose I think it will happen
Maybe they can greet him on the runway at SFO and do a Lane Kiffin on him.
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McAdoo after this game? You have to make a statement to the players that this is unacceptable play.
If they lose I think it will happen
We both know that no coach will be fired here mid season.
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McAdoo after this game? You have to make a statement to the players that this is unacceptable play.
If they lose I think it will happen
We both know that no coach will be fired here mid season.
I tell you what, if it ever was going to happen it would be this season. I would not be shocked at all
better than those sidelines correspondents trolling the sidelines that we dial up for these dweller games.
Is it that hard to believe that Webb just isn't ready?
I mean, if you don't dress against an 0-9 team, when will you?
That is vintage Eli.
^^^ This.
As much as its nice as a fan to root for a loss, I sure am glad that the team doesn't think this way.. Purposely losing does no good.
They've been doing that since the Gilbride days.
As he does almost every time. Hes got a mental thing where he can shake it off easier than most QBs not named Aaron Rodgers.
It'd be nice to see him and Beckham on an creative offense which really schemed to get them open.
Btw what the eff is on Chris Meyers head?
Nope they overpursue it to the perfection of the offense
Who the fuck is this QB?
Pathetic attempt at tackling
lol
Impressively disgraceful.
Fucking Pathetic!!
Idiocy
A random shmuck from BBI could suit up for the opposition and go 4 for 40 and a TD.
Its not even funny! Its fucking pathetic!
Jackrabbit is beginning to look like a coach killer. Great when things are going good, first guy to bail when they're not.
Jenkins was gonna get crushed he should have just threw the body at his feet Celek had a full head of steam ...
Vernons been hurt, and far as I can tell Snacks has been playing hard all season
But JPP and Jenkins belong on the bench right now. Theyre playing fucking half ass football
Ten straight games we've given up a TD to a TE. And that was a long TD.
Why is it so hard to find a coverage LB, even if they can't tackle or rush the QB? That has been a problem for years. Another reason Reese should be fired.
looked that way to me too. But Jenkins, my lord. How do you just give up? Why don't the other Giants smack him in the fucking head? How do you face your teammates?>
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Nope they overpursue it to the perfection of the offense
My point was you have to feel when all 3 are let lose
at the same time ....but this defense is so out of sync
they easily single up a defender righ down the middle
with nobody back to defend just like Collins did last week
...into the bay?
I think it comes from the fact that since it's a lost season the business decision for them is to not get hurt at this point
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I mean I get it the team is losing, but you are paid so much and in theory you love the game and should have an innate competitive spirit. Just as a man, how do you check you nuts at the door and straight give up.
I think it comes from the fact that since it's a lost season the business decision for them is to not get hurt at this point
hurt? You need to fucking play, you get a game check and I get that maybe in a one win season you don't go balls out and risk everything like a mad man. But that shit Jenkins just pulled should get you benched in fucking high school.
Pathetic, the depths to which this team has fallen. it is a fucking joke
Because these fuckers are professionals, They played competitive football there whole lifes.. if they need a coach to get them to show up and play, then screw them.. These are not bums off the street, they flat out quit. I dont care about the coach, but who the hell wants quitters on this team.
Again, it is amazing how far this team has fallen.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
did not look that way to me
That's embarrassing too, if so. I mean...
IMO he was one of the anonymous cowards who whined about McAdoo this week, and he belongs on the bench. Hes playing like a fucking loser right now.
IMO he was one of the anonymous cowards who whined about McAdoo this week, and he belongs on the bench. Hes playing like a fucking loser right now.
He's been shit the entire season, pretty much. I'm sure that contract will age well..
All true, no argument
Maybe, you give a guy the benefit of the doubt if he didnt have about three or four other suspicious plays and wasnt suspended the week before for doing something against the coaches rules.
wants to get killed on a 1-9 team .
Are they really not trying ?
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
Mu point of view is that keeping this from happening is one of the primary jobs of the HC. The DC and OC handle the X's and O's. The HC handles moral, leadership, vision, etc. McAdoo still operates as if he is an OC, not a HC.
Thats pretty sad with half the season left?! Id say its only going to get worse, especially with the schedule we have coming up. I never thought Id see the Giants play this poorly.
wants to get killed on a 1-9 team .
Are they really not trying ?
Several dont seem to be trying too hard
I can live with guys who arent talented enough to make plays. Our current starting LBs are backup quality at best, theyre not going to suddenly become Ray Lewis.
But Id hope and expect to at least see our defense trying to fight off blocks and busting their ass after ball carriers. Seems like a lot of guys standing around if the play isnt right at them
Nah. There are no leaders on this team. That's painfully obvious.
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You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
Mu point of view is that keeping this from happening is one of the primary jobs of the HC. The DC and OC handle the X's and O's. The HC handles moral, leadership, vision, etc. McAdoo still operates as if he is an OC, not a HC.
McAdoo sucks. The icing on the cake is defense giving up and the JV specials. He was given the job, undeserved, because he was credited with "saving" the offense" after 2013, credit we know now he does not deserve and keeping stability for Eli. Giants have had the worst offense in a decade for two years now under his leadership.
He needs to go, the day after the season ends. He never should have been given the job in he first place.
The sad thing about JPP is that contract was completely unnecessary, we could have franchised him again and been done with him if gave a performance like this
Giants might still pick third if they lost. Tiebreakers dont favor them
Correct. They haven't "quit," but it's obvious the defense has very little interest in being out on the field.
FUCKING JOKE
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
The fuck you ranting about?
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
I can say that i have not seen a single player on Offense quit.. this is on the defense.
WUT. One of the dumbest things I have ever read on this site, which is saying a lot.
So there are two options this staff gets through to them or the next one does.
You build a team without character and this is what you get. Guys who play hard when things are going good and dog it and collect the paycheck in bad times.
You want to fire McAdoo? Fine...but he better be accompanied by a lot of these bums on his way out the door. I don't care if a guy doesn't have the talent but lack of effort is unexcusable.
I know Limerick gets shit on, but this post is 100 percent true
The irony is that at least one player who is still trying hard is Flowers. He had a good half, continuing his recent improved play. He still has trouble with speed rushers, and might therefore be better at RT or G. But he gives a lot of effort.
I 100% agree on Flowers, his talent is what his talent is, but the guy tries every down to be a good player. He does that in the face of withering criticism. He may not be a good football player (at LT) but he is a good man.
yeah he came to play, I like him overall
What the literal fuck?
How can they challenge after a penalty?
Shock value.
Yeah that's what Im wondering. Shouldn't that now be nullfied if the replay is upheld?
What a horrific team man.
Add him to the list of items needed this offseason
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LMAO
is into the teeth of the defense .
Keep running behind Jerry for two yards ...
Blandino is not the head of officiating any longer
I don't even care if the Specials Teams don't improve...
Its true he was always good at beating people
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That's the scary part. WTF did he EVER show, anywhere, where he had a generational leg?
His kicks are low and line drives mostly from what I've seen.
What does this staff see??? You have to ask yourself.
He always pushes the ball, doesn't finish his kick/follow through.
Thanks for the update
Two years too late, but it must happen now.
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That's the scary part. WTF did he EVER show, anywhere, where he had a generational leg?
His kicks are low and line drives mostly from what I've seen.
What does this staff see??? You have to ask yourself.
It all goes back to the fact that they continue to employ the most worthless special teams coach in the NFL.
He doesnt get to come back
It is crazy to me that this team has fallen to this depth.
This is coaching bruh. No one had a problem with defensive talent before the season
FUCK THESE BUMS
He doesnt get to come back
Can we fire Spags also?
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Yes
Can't they just give him a Midol?
I want Mac gone, too. But EVERYONE on here wanted to keep him, myself included.
It is crazy to me that this team has fallen to this depth.
Dont sleep on the Browns.
Jenkins should be benched.
GO OV GO OV GO
Just re-posting this trash comment from earlier. What a douche comment.
Season saving? What planet are you on?
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season saving.
Season saving? What planet are you on?
LOL..sure, 9-7 here we come.....
Yup, but they wont. Theres no discipline and no accountability right now. Wheres the leadership on this team?
Maybe just fine the guy instead of suspending him for a week... missing practice, etc
I guess he redeemed himself with the Int .
But the play before he wasn't even trying pretty sad maybe
thats the plan shoot for the draft pick . lol
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want a be Olivier Vernon the better off this roster will be come on Johnny Boy grow a set of nuts and fire this asshole.
Just re-posting this trash comment from earlier. What a douche comment.
Yes. Asshole worthy pcomment.
Wait, what?
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want a be Olivier Vernon the better off this roster will be come on Johnny Boy grow a set of nuts and fire this asshole.
Just re-posting this trash comment from earlier. What a douche comment.
Yes. Asshole worthy pcomment.
Scumbag comment
In a weird way this season will wind up being good in oemarketing respect.
We all knew the rebuild was coming as Eli is 36.
At least now we know the guys we need to keep and who are dogs.
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Yup, but they wont. Theres no discipline and no accountability right now. Wheres the leadership on this team?
How the fuck are we supposed to root for a player like him going forward?? We expect him to just try when things are going good? Someone should bitch slap that man. Landon Collins you call yourself a leader... where you at??
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Yup, but they wont. Theres no discipline and no accountability right now. Wheres the leadership on this team?
EXACTLY!! Where is the coach or player getting in Jenkins f'ing face right now! How can this team just stand around and let this bitch get away with quitting on the team out there!
Havent had a consistent pass rush since 2012
And you should have been banned an hour ago
Please leave!!
You need to learn to spell.
Go take a walk. You are a tremendous ThunderCunt.
You stick around for more than a year, and during a random quarter in a meaningless game is when you unless your troll?
That, my friends is weird.
Might be counting his money.
1970's you did not see this they still played hard even when totally overmatched .
Your spelling sucks.
So do you.
this is what I do not understand, how do other teammates put up with it and how does the player giving up face the other guys?
You're a fucking idiot, go away with your nonsense
Yep.
Then everyone wonders why Eli can not operate the offense. It is a fucking jailbreak when this fool is in. Then he will look at the rush etc.
Pugh is pretty good, but he plays a third of a season. The Giants have a league worst line with him, they can have a league worth line without him.
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Can you imagine, LT, Banks, Marin, Burt, or Carson putting up with Jenkins act? They would kill him as soon as they hit the locker room
this is what I do not understand, how do other teammates put up with it and how does the player giving up face the other guys?
You expect Casillas to do it? Captain, but has done nothing to establish his cred on the field.
Hes down
The Giants are going to lose to a winless team. Unreal.
seriously, I am not saying he has not been part of the problem. But between the defense giving up, the o line situation etc. I wish he would go on an epic rant or something.
The Giants are going to lose to a winless team. Unreal.
I think it's fine. True character of players being shown. Fire the whole lot of 'em
I thought that was the textbook hit that the league was trying to officiate out of existence.
When 1fer plays 0fer, anything goes.
Actually not, even if we lose we still picking 3rd
Brewer.
Mosley.
Petrus.
McCants.
Herman.
Hart.
Knee was down.
Wing with a line drive punt.
*Stockton
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Actually not, even if we lose we still picking 3rd
Well isnt that a kick in the nuts!
Why would anyone want to keep Spags after this season?
Why Spags? His D is putrid and the secondary is pouting
Of course.
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everyone should go
Maybe. I know the OL coach should go
Player safety is such an inconsistent thing
OK, I take this back
Go play in traffic you piece is shit.
He's not trying a leg.
It's 2009 Sheridan. Open player revolt
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
Does it even matter? He's getting shut down as he usually is every week
Wow. He should be ashamed of himself. Trade that fuck.
they finish bring most of them back and with some smart moves
get the lines fixed . get a legit RB .
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Why the F would Spags stay? His D is terrible.
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despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
Jenkins is a quitter. I don't want quitters on this team. He and Apple can both get lost as far as Im concerned
Yeah that Defense design on that 3rd down made zero sense
Due respect, but thats BS. Everyone hasnt wasted a chance to rip McAdoo and Reese (and rightly so, theyre most responsible for building and coaching this group of slugs)
But when a player looks like hes giving about 50% out there, either hes hurt and should be sitting, or hes playing like a dog and should be sitting
And were well within our rights to rip players who look like shit as much as we are the coaches and GM
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despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
When Eli makes a nice play, I say it (go look back on every game thread if you have nothing else to do). I call it like I see it. Jenkins has been on top of his game for MOST of his time as a Giants. Today he looks like shit. My earlier post was in response to the people who want Jenkins GONE. BTW, I also never said Eli should be gone and he has been struggling for a while.
And people wonder why the Giants "culture" might be toxic.
big injuries to the DT;s can't afford that right now you
have a worn down outfit ..
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despite what you see today. He is having a bad game on a team that has lost it completely in every facet of the game. He was one of our defensive MVPs last year. Suggest you guys just back off of Jenkins.
You rip Eli every chance you get but you want a quitter like Jenkins handled with kid gloves?
When Eli makes a nice play, I say it (go look back on every game thread if you have nothing else to do). I call it like I see it. Jenkins has been on top of his game for MOST of his time as a Giants. Today he looks like shit. My earlier post was in response to the people who want Jenkins GONE. BTW, I also never said Eli should be gone and he has been struggling for a while.
I will confirm he did compliment Eli on a couple of plays today
I can't stand how they squandered the latter years of Eli's career.
If you do that then take Reese with them.
HE and Jenkins should be ashamed of themselves. Apple is at least a kid. These guys are on their second contracts in their 6th+ years...
Not me. This is his team.
Getting ass kicked.
big injuries to the DT;s can't afford that right now you
have a worn down outfit ..
LBs don't matter
holy crap
Agreed.
Smith is out.
Tyron Smith isn't playing today, and his replacement is getting manhandled by Beasley.
We literally can't cut JPP until after 2018 at least. Thanks, Jerry!
Between who? It's pretty clear no one gives a shit.
It astounds me, as well.
Maybe hes drunk
Eli will get killed for the overthrow.
Shephard was afraid that Eli's bad throws would get him injured again. Receiver killer.
- Les in TO
Ok? They have 13 points against a terrible defense.
they earned it .
More like laughing and playing cards... these losers do not care.. pathetic bums...
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Tyron Smith isn't playing today, and his replacement is getting manhandled by Beasley.
Hmmm, so injuries make a difference?
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and Eli still cannot get a play off on time. Just call the effin play and snap the ball, then throwa a 5 yard pass on 2nd and 20
The HC/OC don't want an uptempo, for whatever reason.
It's been happening his entire career.
no they dont..they play hard..but not good
The Giants are the worst team in the NFL. How did it come to this? The day they fired Coughlin, bet they wish they had that one back to either keep him, or clean house and fire the real problem which is Jerry Reese and co.
McAdoo? He is just a deer in headlights who can not save this sinking ship. He should never have been given this job.
Besides, I dont want to see these bums rewarded with a new coach for quitting on the team. If nothing else I hope McAdoo makes them practice even harder on Saturdays just to piss them off
Who do you make the interim though, Spags? He's been just as bad.
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no they dont..they play hard..but not good
Young team that always makes 1-2 key mistakes a game that causes them to lose
What a fucking disaster.
Drink 'em if you got 'em!
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drop coaches during the season, but this team has quit. They need remove the coach before a quitters mentality sets in permanently.
Who do you make the interim though, Spags? He's been just as bad.
Auction off the position on eBay. Gotta make some $$$$.
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Who do you make the interim though, Spags? He's been just as bad.
Only choice but you make sure it's known he is out also at the end of the season
[quote]It's been happening his entire career.{/quote]
You realize Manning has less delays than Rodgers, Favre, Ben or Brees?
Shephard appeared to stop his route on the third down play. That should have been a big gain. Hard to fault him since he has otherwise been the only bright spot today.
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and Eli still cannot get a play off on time. Just call the effin play and snap the ball, then throwa a 5 yard pass on 2nd and 20
Two idiots. All the crap that's going on the field around Eli and this is what you talk about. What a freaking stretch. Gets old.
It astounds me, as well.
I mean, shepard looks like he came to play. he has made some big plays already in this shit show. Did he just make a mental error or feel a twinge in his leg? He did stop running though.
Als, does it even matter?
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and Eli still cannot get a play off on time. Just call the effin play and snap the ball, then throwa a 5 yard pass on 2nd and 20
Two idiots. All the crap that's going on the field around Eli and this is what you talk about. What a freaking stretch. Gets old.
It astounds me, as well.
I've been talking about all aspects of the team today, jackass. Not my fault if it burns your ass that Eli is apart of it. Deal with it.
fireable offense
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and Eli still cannot get a play off on time. Just call the effin play and snap the ball, then throwa a 5 yard pass on 2nd and 20
Two idiots. All the crap that's going on the field around Eli and this is what you talk about. What a freaking stretch. Gets old.
It astounds me, as well.
I've been talking about all aspects of the team today, jackass. Not my fault if it burns your ass that Eli is apart of it. Deal with it.
You just prove what a jerk you are. That's all. Go home.
How fucking totally embarassing
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and Eli still cannot get a play off on time. Just call the effin play and snap the ball, then throwa a 5 yard pass on 2nd and 20
Two idiots. All the crap that's going on the field around Eli and this is what you talk about. What a freaking stretch. Gets old.
It astounds me, as well.
I've been talking about all aspects of the team today, jackass. Not my fault if it burns your ass that Eli is apart of it. Deal with it.
You just prove what a jerk you are. That's all. Go home.
Why? Because I'm critical of the players who make mistakes? Yeah. I'm a big 'ol meanie!
As Francesca said to close the week:
Watch out below!
This season is a fucking Greek tragedy
Holy (blanking) (blank)!
Losing to a winless team led by CJ Beathard is the abyss.
I don't know why I thought the first thing was even possible.
The guy doesn't even get a uniform. How can it be his time?
Holy (blanking) (blank)!
This came with a side of fun??
You know what, fire everybody.
Coaches that dont know how to use the talent they have.
Good Observation. I noticed that too. no emotion, no talking to any of the players or coaches. Just looking out with a blank face but he did take off his sunglasses in the third quarter.
Holy (blanking) (blank)!
High comedy. The Three Stooges can't hold a candle to these guys.
Yeah that was absurd. Blocking by bear hug. No flag
Can the GM coach?
Like last week hes not active. Its impossible.
If you listen to the radio they are talking g abou
Mara has to can him
Just peeking in again. Things are still as they are.
Maras? Behead them.
The Browns are saying that about the Giants.
We got 2 bowls out of the Eli Giants. I look back on it as a real successful 2 decades.
Now we retool and load up for another run.
I was thinking the same. And on their home field, in a game we won easily.
It is clearly obvious that the DBs are not playing. The LBs are bad and the Dline is playing hard. But the DBs are flat out not making plays. It will be clear on tape and whomever takes over this team will need to deal with that.
We got 2 bowls out of the Eli Giants. I look back on it as a real successful 2 decades.
Now we retool and load up for another run.
They had plays of 30, 40, and 85 today.........that's simply embarassing.
Has a team ever fired the HC and DC the same day? LOL
If you listen to the radio they are talking about the obvious but they are talking about the coaching campaign and how absolutely opposite they are.
As much as it is likely they both get canned, I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if Reese stays. Tbe players can play. They just aren't. The coach however is gone maybe tomorrow.
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with the first pick in the draft?
Can the GM coach?
Our GM can't do shit. Hasn't for 6 years.
Niners gonna rub it in run run over the top .....
Yes, they have.
Yeah, that was still an embarrassing play, but a bit less embarrassing when you see Wynn get completely pulled back away from the play and then Munson held like that, too.
Nobody and I mean Nobody on this roster deserves the
HOPE JOHNSON Award this year. I'm just saying.....
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
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happened to Collins man? I mean Wtf he was all fucking pro. He looked like a pop warner ten year old in his first game on that one. Brutal
Coaches that dont know how to use the talent they have.
Coaches fault Collins is taking god awful angles in the run and in coverage? He is with the group who don't give a shit.
Too soon?
Nah.
Cannot re-sign him and I am a fan of his.
Isn't that like winning the game?
I am now much more embarrassed being at this game then I was before.
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Out of curiosity, what did we all want that we deserve? And by you saying you all..., Im guessing whatever fucked up narrative youre going to concoct doesnt include you?
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Horse shit
TC had some bad moments. Meltdown against Eagles etc. But the team NEVER looked like this. That is a fucking fact. You could have wanted him gone, but I would but dollars to donuts that if ownership had a time machine they would have either cleaned house or kept TC.
The Giants are now the worst team in football.
Reese is a clown who can not build a roster. HE CAN NOT DO IT. This is the culmination of his vision.
Does not look like a professional ball player today.
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
Mara is the main culprit in this fiasco. He took half measure after half measure and now we have what we have. Reese should have been fired when Coughlin was. If he would have fired everybody after 2013, two years before he fired Coughlini wonder if things would have been different. Who knows.
Oh, they most certainly did.
Reese and everything under him needs to go !
This is rock bottom now. So, I agree with the sentiment that be careful what you wish for. I would take TC back now instead of this fucking disgrace.
Are we watching the same game? The one where our D has given up a shit ton of yards and 31 points to an 0-9 team! Who by the way have just punted for the 1st time in the game 2/3 of the way through the 4th qtr!
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
From Hurricane Sandy until the time TC was fired, we were freaking awful.
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TC had some bad moments. Meltdown against Eagles etc. But the team NEVER looked like this. That is a fucking fact.
Oh, they most certainly did.
I must've missed when we had absolutely no offense, defense, or ST under Coughlin and were unanimously considered the worst team in the NFL. My memory must be failing me.
Think about how bad the defense would be if Reese had only spent $100 million.
This needs to be blown up.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
I maintain this is not strictly a talent issue
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He has to go. Need to send a message and get these guys playing again. The defense backs have quit.Find out who wants to be on the team next year.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
Players still have to save their jobs.
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Should all collect the game checks for this
bullshit. You all got what you wanted. This is the result. Enjoy it.
Pathetic performances under Coughlin were no easier to watch. The shutout against the Falcons. The horror show in Minnesota without Beckham. Should I keep going?
Yeah, keep going. Tell me more how we were just as bad off under Coughlin.
Except I didn't say that.
But, by all means, keep pining for those glory days of a 22-34 record over 56 games.
Yeah. At least that will be something to look forward to after this horrific season.
No one is saying they didn't stink. But there are a few factors left over from those days. Reese...McAdoo...Eli...and we still stink. Coincidence?
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Guys. For fucks sake. Webb is inactive. Hes in street clothes charting plays.
"We had a good week of practice."
"I gotta look at the film."
"Let's open it up."
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He has to go. Need to send a message and get these guys playing again. The defense backs have quit.Find out who wants to be on the team next year.
And what message would that send to the players? If you dont like the coach, quit playing hard and start bitching to the media, and well be happy to get you a new coach?
McAdoo has to go, but not till after the season. Lets see who in the locker room wants to earn a job for next year despite this terrible season.
Players still have to save their jobs.
Obviously. But why should they be rewarded for quitting on their coach?
200 million because his drafts suck in the trenches get a fucken clue
Yeah what a D!! Let's make Spags Head Coach!! ;-)
Lets thoe fools who have propsed that own up to it. I won't call them out
I seriously think its 50/50 at this point.
or "I seen no quit"
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Good effort out there today guys
"We had a good week of practice."
"I gotta look at the film."
"Let's open it up."
Bullshit, going to be more like UUUUMMMMMM, UUUUHHHHHH
Flowers
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But to pretend that they didn't stink at the end under TC is delusional.
No one is saying they didn't stink. But there are a few factors left over from those days. Reese...McAdoo...Eli...and we still stink. Coincidence?
Yes, Mara. Mara should have acted earlier. Bringing in McAdoo to spare Coughlin was idiotic. Firing Coughlin without Reese was idiotic. Half Measures usually are not effective
We can argue about whether the Giants should take a QB next year, and if so, who that should be. But is there any argument that Reese and company should be fired?
As Jim Mora would say Playoffs!
What? still 7 games left.. why so negative?
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but I dont think this team is going to the playoffs
What? still 7 games left.. why so negative?
Yeah. Not gonna say we're out until ray in arlington says we're out.
It's better now that we find out who Ben is rather than go 8-8 6-10 then 5-11 and fire him in 3 years... I want a stud QB and rebuild this the OL. Take the pieces on D and O build around them and find a system that works... it can be done.. and it can be done quickly but we need smart people at the helm.
I seriously think its 50/50 at this point.
Lane Kiffin style firing?
Love the shotgun draw.
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for the first time ever.
I seriously think its 50/50 at this point.
Lane Kiffin style firing?
Yes, that's what I was thinking.
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Did you see that high school team on Friday night?
Yes, that's what I was thinking.
Damnit. Couldn't even do that right.
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for the first time ever.
I seriously think its 50/50 at this point.
Lane Kiffin style firing?
Though McAdoo is a terrible HC I doubt they get rid of him mid se4ason. We'll be lucky if they fire him after this season. And really lucky if they get rid of Reece as well.
This guy is OVERMATCHED,