Boomer was discussing this idea earlier today on his show.
It got me thinking, with his now reduced role at CBS as studio analyst, few have had a closer look at the league over the last decade and with his ties to the organization, I wonder if something like this is possible.
One thing I like is the perspective he brings to the situation at QB that this franchise currently finds itself in. The twilight of Eli's career, the evaluation of Webb, the evaluation of these top draft picks.
I would also like the connection and organizational roots like Coughlin in Jacksonville or Elway in Denver.
Would there be mutual interest between Simms/NYG? What do you all think?
I would trust Parcells to clean this house of the malcontents and Simms to do a very good job reestablishing the "Giants" way.
I thought it was a legitimate idea and brought it up at that time on one of these threads. Didn t get any real action
One difference is that I've always thought Simms was smarter than Elway. An intrigiung suggestion.
One difference is that I've always thought Simms was smarter than Elway. An intrigiung suggestion.
Elway graduated from Stanford with a degree in economics. He's a pretty smart dude.
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The analogy I would apply is John Elway and the Broncos. Esteemed leader of the franchise who has won the pelts. Not an NFL front office lifer but someone who is closely involved in the league with a strong philosophy and undoubtable commitment to his franchise.
One difference is that I've always thought Simms was smarter than Elway. An intrigiung suggestion.
Elway graduated from Stanford with a degree in economics. He's a pretty smart dude.
He also runs a really successful car dealership in SoCal. He learned how to construct his players deals similarly to his car deals, which give him some ways to get out of bad contracts.
Don't hate the idea of Simms, but he doesn't have that background.
Maybe make him some type of team ambassador if you want where you allow his name to stay out there as a link to the past and some great Giants days of long ago, but in a role where he can't do any damage.
Seems like a nice guy, I wouldn't let him run my fantasy football team, let alone a real team.
I don't think Phil would want the position anyway IMO.
For me, the key question from now until January is whether the owners are going to replace their existing organizational leaders with NFL hires with successful resumes or alternatively shake up the foundation of the franchise with one guy who is going to remold it. Hence, all the discussions of Harbaugh, who would fit that mold. This Simms suggestion is along those lines. I have no idea whether Simms has that sort of leadership potential.
Besides Elway's Stanford degree and car dealer experience he also ran an arena team before getting the Broncos job.
No Executive positions without qualifications, please.
I guess he could be an Accorsi-style GM: the guy who schmoozes the media with stories about the old days, and occasionally makes a road trip to scout QBs, while his staff does the heavy lifting. I think the rebuild of this team calls for a different work ethic from the top guy in the front office.
It's silly.
I'd be fine hiring him as a QB coach or something, but there is no evidence Simms would do well in the front office.
The real test would be his ability to evaluate talent (college and pro) and to pitch the Jints brand to players & agents. I don't know about the salesmanship skill, but I think I've heard enough to think he has a good eye for talent.
If you want to go a former player route, why not kick the tires on Collinsworth? He's smart, is a data geek (owner of PPF), and knows the league...
The real test would be his ability to evaluate talent (college and pro) and to pitch the Jints brand to players & agents. I don't know about the salesmanship skill, but I think I've heard enough to think he has a good eye for talent.
If you want to go a former player route, why not kick the tires on Collinsworth? He's smart, is a data geek (owner of PPF), and knows the league...
They’ve never been executives.
There’s a reason they both went to media and not the front office
Hey, at least the Lions knew what they were getting when they hired Millen...
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I guess he could be an Accorsi-style GM: the guy who schmoozes the media with stories about the old days, and occasionally makes a road trip to scout QBs, while his staff does the heavy lifting. I think the rebuild of this team calls for a different work ethic from the top guy in the front office.
Anyone who isn't "in football" is silly.
Think about the scope of a GM's responsibilities. The 'G' and the 'M' together stand for General Manager, which encompasses ...everything: front office construction, the scouting department, the pro personnel department, the draft and free agency, self-scouting and talent retention, contract negotiations, CBA compliance, final-53, in-season roster management, etc etc etc. And, most relevant to us, hiring a head coach.
Having an "eye for talent" (which is a very generous assumption for Phi or an ex-player) falls far, far short of the skills necessary to be an effective or even functional GM. All the successful, sustained GMs have uniformly spent a lifetime "in football" (not watching it on TV) to build the right organizational skills, leadership qualities, and connections. It's a big, big job -- only the entire infrastructure of the organization.
"John Elway won a Super Bowl." Thrill Ride posits he'll eventually be a cautionary tale. All he did was sign big names in free agency and strike out year after year in the draft. And now the totality of those mistakes is evident in a sinking Broncos team who lost to the 1-8 Giants.
Btw their QB process under "eye for QB talent" Elway? Peyton -> Osweiler -> Peyton - > offer $72 mill for Brock?? -> Paxton Lynch in the 1st rd -> Siemien -> Brock again
He is not a douche. A truly hilarious performer. His video prior to the alumni baseball game? Top notch stuff. He invented a very funny, original character and it's too bad the gimmick didn't catch on at high levels or pro wrestling.