This might well appear a rhetorical question with an obvious answer, and it is in one sense. But I've read more than a few comparisons between Parcells and McAdoo saying in effect that they're very similar at the same time in each one's respective career. And while they were both young, and both had to deal with adversity early in their careers, I don't think they could be more different.
I'm not blind to Parcells' faults and mistakes he made throughout his career, but underneath the obvious and any scripted remarks there was always the sense that there was some there, there. That he was a consistently tough man who was authentic when dealing with players, ownership or the press and possessed of a core integrity for the game and dealing with those in it.
You might not agree with him, you might not like him, you might even hate his guts, but 100% of the time you were going get authentic Bill Parcells and not a lot of platitudes and B.S. irrespective of whether you're a player or the press. And ultimately, at some level you had to respect him.
And without respect, you can not be a leader.
The Giants have had some awful seasons recently, but the majority of players kept playing hard despite the limitations of the roster and coaching.
You have to go back to 2003 to see this kind of non-effort, and even that didn't really happen until late in the season.
McAdoo could not lead a cub scout troop to the latrine.
(The longer answer: If this was any other team in the NFL, he wouldn't be today.)
Bill Arnsparger was not a leader, but he was still an excellent coordinator for many years before and after his Giants tenure. He just wasn't cut out to be the head man. It happens. Does anyone honestly think that McHandley can even be a successful position coach in the future?
Thanks! Sounds like a good read. That's my impression of him, and a pretty good description of some defining characteristics of a leader.
No feel for the game like last year.
He let the clock expire early in the season, remember? Yesterday they were running the ball well he didn't go back to it on 3rd and 2. I don't care who is calling the plays I have never seen him call a time out or fight for his team in any way. Then during the Press conferences he is giving bullshit answers. Its totally nonsense, I don't like it.
Mcadoo is a perfect example of round hole, square peg coach. He does not adjust to the team's strengths and he does not know how to motivate the team.
Here is a perfect example of the two on motivating players:
Bill parcells quote
Mcadoo quote from yesterday
This is all you need to know. They aren't even close and that is why one is in the hall of fame and the other one will soon find himself out of the league.
Bill Arnsparger was not a leader, but he was still an excellent coordinator for many years before and after his Giants tenure. He just wasn't cut out to be the head man. It happens. Does anyone honestly think that McHandley can even be a successful position coach in the future?
Easy on Arnsparger. His problem with the Giants was that they were a yo-yo organization , with no budget or talent save for a few excellent defensive players. He became an excellent college coach. My X's cousin played for him at LSU. His guys played hard down to the last snap out of respect and admiration for him.
McAdoo is a leader. What's going on presently is a mutiny . He's not the first leader to confront one of those . He won't be around next season. His career will resume as an assistant , perhaps in NE or Jack, if either of those offensive staffs lose a coach. In maybe 5 years, he will get another chance as HC. He has talent . He has a ton of good ideas. He does possess leadership skills. He walked into a shitstorm this season some of his own doing . The 11 win debut teased expectations to an insane level.
The Green co-inhabitants of the Met truly made a parallel hire in Bowles. Misleading double-digit first season. Crap for the second. Media on him like red ants. Woody finally said fuck it, he's staying. The guy knows football . He's a leader .
So what the fuck is his job exactly? What's he being paid to do? He won't motivate the players b/c it's not his job and he can't coach football.
I just don't understand it.
So what the fuck is his job exactly? What's he being paid to do? He won't motivate the players b/c it's not his job and he can't coach football.
I just don't understand it.
B, having been a coach for my daughter's softball team a few years, I saw motivation as a primary function. Hard to believe McAdoo said that.
I think his message(s) is/are too convoluted for him to be a good leader. His "committed to discipline and poise" paragraph that he spits out on command like an automaton sounds kinda like: over the meadow through the woods, over the bridge, along the ledge, and then over the hill; to me.
Then there's his "Frasier the Lion" and "if" speech which he used twice this season -- at the beginning of training camp -- and at the bye -- I mean: who wants to be called a frikken Frasier? Examine that practice and his comments that players don't need motivation because they get paid to play (an assertion that was pushed by two other big failures -- Handley and Fassell) then it really gets convoluted and even conflicted. Why does he give them Frasier and If speeches if they don't need motivation?? Those two ideas are in direct conflict with each other.
I also agree with the oversized suit analogy -- that was, in hindsight, quite fitting
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said that his job isn't to motivate players to play when they're getting paid. He certainly hasn't been able to coach them on the Xs and Os. And it's clear this team doesn't want to win with him at the helm.
So what the fuck is his job exactly? What's he being paid to do? He won't motivate the players b/c it's not his job and he can't coach football.
I just don't understand it.
B, having been a coach for my daughter's softball team a few years, I saw motivation as a primary function. Hard to believe McAdoo said that.
“Again, we have to do one thing first. We have to take a look at the tape first. We have to figure out what went wrong. We gotta address it. We gotta fix it. We gotta move on. And we’ll talk about motivation next week. They’re pro football players. They need to be self-motivated. Everybody gets a paycheck this week. We need to go out and play that way.”