According to Schefters Facebook page..
Statement from John Mara and Steve Tisch:
"Ben McAdoo is our head coach and has our support. We are in the midst of an extremely disappointing season. Our performance this year, particularly the past two weeks, is inexcusable and frustrating. While we appreciate that our fans are unhappy with what has occurred, nobody is more upset than we are.
“Our plan is to do what we have always done, which is to not offer a running commentary on the season. It is our responsibility to determine the reasons for our poor performance and at the end of the year, we will evaluate the 2017 season in its entirety and make a determination on how we move forward.”
Clean house after the last game, but don’t see an upside to doing it now
What needed to happen was one of the leaders/captains jack somebody up. All along we were told there were no leaders in the lockerroom and obviously that is true.
We'll have to suffer through the rest of the year. Jenkins should sit and Cockerell should start and find somebody to start for Apple - Deayon?.
ITA with all of this.
Now if they don't make changes Jan 1st and wipe this clean.
Well...
McAdoo is the best option at leading us to a top 3 pick.
I want the Giants to have a new GM and coach on day one of the offseason, so they can get to work rebuilding the roster, especially through the draft. Firing McAdoo and Reese on January 1st only gives them four months to rebuild the organization and get ready for the draft.
Fire them now and you can get that first part done sooner.
But, this is obviously not to be. That's ok, if the decision has been made at least, ownership can put together a list of targets.
However, I will be disappointed if at the end of the season we see no changes, not enough change, or another bone head appointment of a head coach.
I thought that offering the job to McAdoo was just too conservative of a move.
If Ben and Jerry and their staffs are still employed on Jan 3 I'll be disappointed and despondent. We will be back to the mid '70s if that happens.
McAdoo is the best option at leading us to a top 3 pick.
Top 3? I'm confident under his tutelage that we should be able to secure the no.2 or even the no.1.
Exactly the correct move. Coach deserves the entire season.
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my only issue is that every Monday will feel like the sky is falling when the fan base gets riled up again after watching another half assed effort.
McAdoo is the best option at leading us to a top 3 pick.
Top 3? I'm confident under his tutelage that we should be able to secure the no.2 or even the no.1.
Top 3. SF and Cleveland won't win again.
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my only issue is that every Monday will feel like the sky is falling when the fan base gets riled up again after watching another half assed effort.
McAdoo is the best option at leading us to a top 3 pick.
Top 3? I'm confident under his tutelage that we should be able to secure the no.2 or even the no.1.
Coaching change can lead to an inspired effort, which could produce a few more wins. It's obvious this roster has quit on this current staff. I'd be shocked if we win one more game under their guidance.
If they are convinced they want to let him stick around, I hope like hell they have a plan for who's next at HC & GM before Jan 1st, because it's too late by then.
Having said that keeping McAdoo and Reese right now just ensures our losing and atop draft pick.
History and facts do not support your allegation about Wellington Mara or Mara/Tisch.
"I don't like the coach" is not an excuse from the players for quitting and/or putting forth less than full effort. It is not a fucking excuse.
If it's OK to shitcan McAdoo and Reese now, it's OK to shitcan (at minimum) Jenkins and Apple now. I'm 3,000 miles away and not spending money on tickets so my voice doesn't mean shit, but my vote as a fan would be to never see those two play for the Giants ever again. I believe we are past contract and salary cap considerations and into the realm of a poisoned locker room and suspect organizational culture. I for one would like to see some radical shit done to the roster.
But sadly, players have such chutzpah that they don't fear being cut, assuming that another team will sign them to a huge contract in the next day or two. And they are right. Jenkins wouldn't have to wait very long to get another contract.
"I don't like the coach" is not an excuse from the players for quitting and/or putting forth less than full effort. It is not a fucking excuse.
If it's OK to shitcan McAdoo and Reese now, it's OK to shitcan (at minimum) Jenkins and Apple now. I'm 3,000 miles away and not spending money on tickets so my voice doesn't mean shit, but my vote as a fan would be to never see those two play for the Giants ever again. I believe we are past contract and salary cap considerations and into the realm of a poisoned locker room and suspect organizational culture. I for one would like to see some radical shit done to the roster.
good post
quitting kills football teams. I do not like the coach is not a reason to not play.
If Reese gets a paws though I may flip. He should have been gone two years ago. He was "put on notice" and now the team is the worst in the NFL.
Both MacAdoo and Reese will probably get fired after the season, as they should, but the culture of this team is way more concerning.
What we are seeing right now is a major problem and a new coach won't fix it. It might be ok short term and we may win some games and win the division, but as soon as adversity hits, we see what happens to a lot of these guys. What we have seen from Apple and Jenkins is a major problem and as much as I like Jenkins, you cannot have that on your team.
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Reese and McAdoo haven't covered themselves with glory, and replacing them is completely fine...but I put this shitshow of a season on the players. I can't stress this enough:
"I don't like the coach" is not an excuse from the players for quitting and/or putting forth less than full effort. It is not a fucking excuse.
If it's OK to shitcan McAdoo and Reese now, it's OK to shitcan (at minimum) Jenkins and Apple now. I'm 3,000 miles away and not spending money on tickets so my voice doesn't mean shit, but my vote as a fan would be to never see those two play for the Giants ever again. I believe we are past contract and salary cap considerations and into the realm of a poisoned locker room and suspect organizational culture. I for one would like to see some radical shit done to the roster.
good post
quitting kills football teams. I do not like the coach is not a reason to not play.
If Reese gets a paws though I may flip. He should have been gone two years ago. He was "put on notice" and now the team is the worst in the NFL.
correction : I agree not liking the coach is no reason to quit.
New leadership could take a while. So they better have their candidates identified by season's end.
Exactly the correct move. Coach deserves the entire season.
Exactly the correct move. Coach deserves the entire season.
He doesn't DESERVE anything.
He needs to earn the right to be there.
And owners don't listen to hysteria? Since when?
And if things don't turn around? Is that a joke?
But sadly, players have such chutzpah that they don't fear being cut, assuming that another team will sign them to a huge contract in the next day or two. And they are right. Jenkins wouldn't have to wait very long to get another contract.
Agreed. This sounds like "I'll fire him the day after the season ends" to me.
He claimed the team showed grit because they scored while down 31-13
He dodged the why did you not pull Jenkins by saying he needs to finish looking at the tape
Said Apple had a big body on him and needed to put the big body on the ground (Have no idea what play he was talking about but I think it was the Bethard TD)
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my only issue is that every Monday will feel like the sky is falling when the fan base gets riled up again after watching another half assed effort.
McAdoo is the best option at leading us to a top 3 pick.
Top 3? I'm confident under his tutelage that we should be able to secure the no.2 or even the no.1.
Top 3. SF and Cleveland won't win again.
Well Cleveland can’t win “again” lol. We have the tiebreaker over SF since they beat us right?
The tiebreak for the draft order is strength of schedule.
Looks VERY familiar.
"Hey I might be gone after this year but you 23 year olds are putting tape out there. I'll become an OC or QB Coach in 2 seconds and I can do that until I'm 60. What about you bums?"
"Hey I might be gone after this year but you 23 year olds are putting tape out there. I'll become an OC or QB Coach in 2 seconds and I can do that until I'm 60. What about you bums?"
It's going to get ugly at the Met-O-Lands folks.
I am curious to see: A) how many empty seats there will be,
and B) how many season tickets are sold to out of towners.
We won't know Part B though.
You could see this trainwreck coming...
Bullshit. McAdoo is a dead man walking.
But they will continue with the facade of continuity and "The Giants Way" with the goal of projecting stability to the next coach.
Has nothing to do with McAdoo deserving anything.
Waiting until Jan 1 to fire and then start a search for GM who then will take a while to select a HC who then has to find position coaches etc puts that leadership in a bind for 2018.
The ideal would be if they had a (transition?) GM candidate not locked with another team (e.g. Gettleman?) who could step in and start righting the ship while "reviewing film" of players (and thus coaches abilities); start the process of evaluating and then culling dead wood NOW. He could also scout HC options. (Of course he would NEVER think about making behind the scenes contact with any potential choices - that would be illegal.)
Both the draft (old guard scouting for the new regime) and setting up the regimine for the off season would appear to be difficult with a post Jan house cleaning.
It is hard to believe that ownership, the Senior management team would not have all of these scenarios already thought out.