While the talk has been QB all season, I wanted to see the interest at OT. I know Flowers has been better recently, but I don’t see him as the long term LT on the team. I think he could make an above average RT. My question is, “Is there any top 10 worthy LTs in this upcoming draft?” I don’t follow college football enough to know the top prospects. So far the only guy I’ve read about is Mike McGlinchey the LT from Notre Dame. Any other guys I should keep an eye for in the coming Bowl season.
I'm hoping Williams falls to Round 2 after the injury. He's been compared to Joe Staley
Sure he isn't the quickest guy, but he's a grinder and a technician. You can plug him in anywhere. For a team needing core starters at 3 or 4 positions, McGlinchey works. Get in where you fit in. And he will.
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McGlinchey had major trouble with speed rushers. The OT from Texas that has been hurt all year is supposed to be the best one.
I'm hoping Williams falls to Round 2 after the injury. He's been compared to Joe Staley
From what I've read, a lot of scouts think Williams needs to hit the weight room.
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I agree. Wheeler supposedly has all the tools and needs to get stronger. Him at LT. Flowers at right tackle. Nelson at LG. Still need a new C and RG. Pugh is a good player but injuries should make the
Team a bit wary depending on the Marker. I want Jerry Richberg either Tom or as backups.
another guy I like is Isaiah Wynn .
Nelson Will be gone unless we move up in round #2 what
pisses me off when we knew we were not going anywhere we
could have moved DRC to get some extra picks .
Mel Kiper said last week he may end up grading out as the highest rated guard in the last 30 years and has a chance to be in the top 10 picks even though he is not a tackle.
We've just passed on them for lesser players.
BUT. There were 3 guys whom were all possible OT choices for
The Giants and predract the chorus was None were worth it. Bolles Ramczyk and Robinson all are Starting and to be just as promising
The reality is Reese always passes on OL when he has the chance. He was desperate need when he strung together Pugh Richberg and Flowers. His first 5 years as GM he took only Beatty in the first 3 rounds.
He and his staff are enamored w WRs DL and CB. Eli Apple could have been Decker? Detroit grabbed him from
ohio St.
He passed on guys Like Max Unger and Cordy Glenn he wouldn't have had to mass pick. It is what it is. They need a new GM and staff.
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with a nasty attitude...we need him and more guys like him going forward.
Mel Kiper said last week he may end up grading out as the highest rated guard in the last 30 years and has a chance to be in the top 10 picks even though he is not a tackle.
Agreed...I just think they take the "don't force a pick" thing a little too literally sometimes. No one is saying take a OL first overall. But hell, rounds 2-4 would be nice every once in awhile. We've taken 1 OL in the last 2 drafts...in the 6th round! It's almost like we are allergic to thinking that any of them are good.
For some reason, I think they might take an edge rusher rather than QB aka Chubb.
It doesn't matter. Let's not conflate skipping an OT at #20-something to pick Engram with risking a top 5 pick on a suspect OT.
It's still early, but I don't see an OT in the mix yet in the top 5.
Would agree pass rusher would appear a more likely target, but the options there appear few. Key, Chubb etc need to be tested.
That said, McGlinchey and Nelson aren’t perfect. McGlinchey got beat by speed off the edge a few plays vs Miami and also got fooled on some stunts. Nelson was up and down vs Miami as well and got shoved on his ass Bobby Hart style one play early on.
As they will bring missing wisdom to this project.
BUT. There were 3 guys whom were all possible OT choices for
The Giants and predract the chorus was None were worth it. Bolles Ramczyk and Robinson all are Starting and to be just as promising
The reality is Reese always passes on OL when he has the chance. He was desperate need when he strung together Pugh Richberg and Flowers. His first 5 years as GM he took only Beatty in the first 3 rounds.
He and his staff are enamored w WRs DL and CB. Eli Apple could have been Decker? Detroit grabbed him from
ohio St.
He passed on guys Like Max Unger and Cordy Glenn he wouldn't have had to mass pick. It is what it is. They need a new GM and staff.
Bolles went prior to the Giants' pick.
I still want Darnold. He is really picking up and he and his team are winning, unlike Rosen's Bruins. I am always skeptical of a QB whose team isn't winning games. I know it's a team sport but no position on the football field has more impact to wins and losses than the QB.
Darnold is still the prototype QB and I think his skillset is perfect for the Giants and I think eventually he will be the best QB out of this upcoming draft.
[quote] is about as clean as they come. All of a sudden he's not a really good OL prospect? He's playing LT at the highest level of competition in college and doing it at a high level for a dominating offense. C'mon. There aren't any Orlando Pace's anymore in college. With the systems that teams run now and the need to be more athletic, there just aren't these blue goose tackles available - but there are really good OL available every year.
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The two games he played against high end defenses he got worked over.
We've just passed on them for lesser players.
By any chance did you watch the Miami game? He was beaten like a drum.
The risk is that in order to have that staple, because it is a staple, low first rounders get elevated in our minds to top five types?
Top five is very risky.
Hopefully they will have a great conviction on one when their turn comes, but if not it can set a franchise back many years to select one who turns out lousy.
If Wheeler is a LT, Nelson as the LG, and EF at RG, where I think he is best served for a run game makes a good start.
Either case makes for a young OL.
Brady was, what? A sixth rounder?
There are no qbs in the 2019 draft? they are all on haitus?
Not sure the fan base really wants another year of neutered run game, castrated run D and fundamental imbalance, no lbs, etc.
Furthermore, what decent new coach and GM would not want to address lbs, guards and so forth?
Those things take quality spots.
Brady was, what? A sixth rounder?
There are no qbs in the 2019 draft? they are all on haitus?
Not sure the fan base really wants another year of neutered run game, castrated run D and fundamental imbalance, no lbs, etc.
Furthermore, what decent new coach and GM would not want to address lbs, guards and so forth?
Those things take quality spots.
Yep. Look at this roster. We’ll barely have enough bodies just to fill out the roster at OL and LB. That is unless the Giants overpay for guys in FA. Trade down, fix the trenches, and improve the front 7 on defense.
RE: McGlinchey, he wasn’t “horrible” vs Miami. I watched Nelson/McGlinchey specifically in that game and both were ok overall. Both had some bad plays.