The sudden dismissal of Girardi, the glacially slow pace of interviews, the odd mix of candidates, and now the completely out of left field hire of a broadcaster whose never taken the field as anything but a player.
I refuse to complain about a manager I know nothing about. The Yankees invest far more in interviewing candidates than skeptical BBI readers do. Whatever you all observe in Boone on television is a fraction of his baseball knowledge. And I'm sure the Yankees carefully evaluated said baseball knowledge.
You think you interview 7 candidates and not make a careful decision?
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he's capable of. People hated the Torre hire in Nov'95...Plenty of first time managers in recent years have had success. The Boone hate is just dumb.
Can someone explain the reason behind the negativity of this hire Â
I understand he has no managerial experience, but several other candidates they interviewed didn't either. And Boone comes from a baseball family and has been around the game his entire life. His father managed in the majors. He's also considered a high quality analyst in the sport because of his cognitive insight and overall knowledge of the game.
Sure I'd rather they just stuck with Girardi, but I'm not writing Boone off right away.
Seriously, Friday night AFTER Francesca is off the air?
Yankees knew this would not be well received, and now are hiding behind the weekend when come Monday it will all be about Eli.
Girardi is a separate, closed question at this point Â
Even Hal said a couple weeks ago in an interview they would have likely let him go even if they won the World Series.
Hard for some of us to understand as fans, but something about Girardi made them resolute that he is time was done.
As for Boone, I’d have preferred someone with some manager experience, surprised by the pick too. But not going to claim I know more than Cashman and company to criticize too much at this point.
No problem with starting a Yankees thread here right now.
Dave in Hoboken : 5:08 pm : link : reply
This place could use a thread about one of the actual very good teams in town right now.
My guess/prediction at the hire is either Mueller or Boone, at this point. The entire time, I've had a weird feeling that Boone will be the guy. Just a guess/feeling.
He clearly has his reasons for the hire, and we'll find out what they are. I just really have reservations about a guy who has zero experience as either a coach or a manager taking over the most demanding job in MLB.
I'm sorry he's too good of s GM to let his ego take over and chance ruining what could be a great run. If Boone is good enough for him he's good enough for me. He sure comes from solid baseball lineage.
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1 rival exec said he guesses the yankees have a 50-50 chance, maybe a little more, to end up with japanese league star shohei ohtani. in that bet, i'm taking the more.
Be managing the pitching changes and bullpen decisions. It’s the only reason I can imagine that he would have accepted the job not knowing who the manager or any of the rest of the staff was.
As much as I’m not psyched by AB, I’m not worried at all.
I guess I just don't understand how someone who was never even a coach could become the manager of the New York Yankees. This ain't the Mets, Twins, Rangers. This is the most important team in the league. I think Cashman should have just put the uniform on himself.
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Bob Nightingale guesses Phil Nevin will be on the staff Â
a la a Jim Leyland or Tony LaRussa or even Joe Torre are no longer necessary. Most teams now employ sabermetric guys and statisticians full time, and the Yankees have pretty much an entire division set up for that in the front office. A manager now needs to be someone who can relate to the players and communicate with them on day to day. There is no more gut feelings or mad scientists out there as a manager. The answers are all in spreadsheets and binders, etc.
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Following his interview with the Yankees last month, Boone touted the fact that he grew up around the game as a factor that could offset his lack of coaching experience. His grandfather, father and brother all played in the majors, and his dad, Bob Boone, managed the Royals and Reds.
“Obviously, experience is very valuable and should be a check mark for somebody,” Boone said. “I’ve been going to the ballpark since I was 3 and 4 years old, and in a way managing the game from a very young age. And then growing up where my dad was in the big leagues from the time I was born to the time I was in a senior in high school and being around great teams, great players, I’ve kind of lived this game as a kid.”
I would think that his ego could handle having a strong staff around him, including the bench coach. If Cashman didn't beleive that, he wouldn't have hired him. Link - ( New Window )
If by smarter, you mean one of the worst commentators of all time, then sure. Another Mets fan that can't help but post on a Yankee thread. Nothing new there.
heard anyone say that Aaron Boone could be a good manager one day? His commentary on ESPN never offered a single insight into what might be coming next. The Yankees tried making a singular playoff hero manager once before, didn't work out too well and Bucky was a beloved Yankee.
RE: The days of having a baseball lifer as a manager Â
a la a Jim Leyland or Tony LaRussa or even Joe Torre are no longer necessary. Most teams now employ sabermetric guys and statisticians full time, and the Yankees have pretty much an entire division set up for that in the front office. A manager now needs to be someone who can relate to the players and communicate with them on day to day. There is no more gut feelings or mad scientists out there as a manager. The answers are all in spreadsheets and binders, etc.
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Ummm isn't that why Girardi was criticized...for sticking to the binder?
RE: RE: The days of having a baseball lifer as a manager Â
a la a Jim Leyland or Tony LaRussa or even Joe Torre are no longer necessary. Most teams now employ sabermetric guys and statisticians full time, and the Yankees have pretty much an entire division set up for that in the front office. A manager now needs to be someone who can relate to the players and communicate with them on day to day. There is no more gut feelings or mad scientists out there as a manager. The answers are all in spreadsheets and binders, etc.
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Ummm isn't that why Girardi was criticized...for sticking to the binder?
He was criticized because players felt like they couldn't talk to him. That was the major issue.
Yes, and Boone will rely on the binder just as much. Â
The only one I had an opinion on was Meulens. And it wasn't a favorable opinion. It's based solely on his comments following his interview with Cashman, but he struck me as a guy who tells people what he thinks they want to hear. And all the talk about being a winner just made me think of Buddy/Rex Ryan, but with less of a track record to back it up (unless I'm missing something, any winning Meulens has done has been as a passenger, not the driver).
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“I was groomed to be a winner,” said Meulens.
“(Throughout) my career, I’ve won a bunch. And that never changes. Every day I come to the ballpark to win the game. Nothing against anybody else, but I have a drive for that. Also, I’ve been known to be a great communicator with guys because of my ability to speak different languages.”
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“Sometimes, players tend to not give information to the coaches,” Meulens said. “But you don’t know if (someone’s) dog died or something. If I coach or if I manage, I go around and ask guys how they’re doing and if there’s any issues, you’ve got to understand as a coach, you’re kind of a psychologist at the same time. Having an understanding of a player and easing a player a bit goes a long way toward getting the player to play.”
He strikes me as a guy who is always going to do what he thinks he is supposed to do and doesn't have a mind of his own. I want someone who is capable of an original thought, who is capable of telling people what they don't want to hear and not just what they do want to hear. Is Boone that guy? I have no idea. But Meulens isn't. from nj.com - ( New Window )
Only thing that's keeping me from getting too upset
And if the Yanks win anything, Cashman can put his face to the front of his box and know the cameras are on him and he's getting all the credit.
You think you interview 7 candidates and not make a careful decision?
Let's give him the benefit of the doubt and see what he's capable of. People hated the Torre hire in Nov'95...Plenty of first time managers in recent years have had success. The Boone hate is just dumb.
Sure I'd rather they just stuck with Girardi, but I'm not writing Boone off right away.
Yankees knew this would not be well received, and now are hiding behind the weekend when come Monday it will all be about Eli.
Hard for some of us to understand as fans, but something about Girardi made them resolute that he is time was done.
As for Boone, I’d have preferred someone with some manager experience, surprised by the pick too. But not going to claim I know more than Cashman and company to criticize too much at this point.
Dave in Hoboken : 5:08 pm : link : reply
This place could use a thread about one of the actual very good teams in town right now.
My guess/prediction at the hire is either Mueller or Boone, at this point. The entire time, I've had a weird feeling that Boone will be the guy. Just a guess/feeling.
Never really understood the interest in him. I'm hoping for the best but this should be interesting.
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In a repeat of 15 years earlier, Boone breaks his ankle in pickup basketball in December ‘18 and Cash hires ARod to manage in ‘19.
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1 rival exec said he guesses the yankees have a 50-50 chance, maybe a little more, to end up with japanese league star shohei ohtani. in that bet, i'm taking the more.
As much as I’m not psyched by AB, I’m not worried at all.
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Maybe Beltran?
Because he knows when Aaron Boone fucks up, the job is his
Amen.
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Following his interview with the Yankees last month, Boone touted the fact that he grew up around the game as a factor that could offset his lack of coaching experience. His grandfather, father and brother all played in the majors, and his dad, Bob Boone, managed the Royals and Reds.
“Obviously, experience is very valuable and should be a check mark for somebody,” Boone said. “I’ve been going to the ballpark since I was 3 and 4 years old, and in a way managing the game from a very young age. And then growing up where my dad was in the big leagues from the time I was born to the time I was in a senior in high school and being around great teams, great players, I’ve kind of lived this game as a kid.”
I would think that his ego could handle having a strong staff around him, including the bench coach. If Cashman didn't beleive that, he wouldn't have hired him.
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If by smarter, you mean one of the worst commentators of all time, then sure. Another Mets fan that can't help but post on a Yankee thread. Nothing new there.
"No, no, not Aaron 'F-in" Boone" !
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Ummm isn't that why Girardi was criticized...for sticking to the binder?
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a la a Jim Leyland or Tony LaRussa or even Joe Torre are no longer necessary. Most teams now employ sabermetric guys and statisticians full time, and the Yankees have pretty much an entire division set up for that in the front office. A manager now needs to be someone who can relate to the players and communicate with them on day to day. There is no more gut feelings or mad scientists out there as a manager. The answers are all in spreadsheets and binders, etc.
So long as Boone can work with the players day in and day out, and read the reports given to him and follow those directions, that's all the Yankees want.
Ummm isn't that why Girardi was criticized...for sticking to the binder?
He was criticized because players felt like they couldn't talk to him. That was the major issue.
“(Throughout) my career, I’ve won a bunch. And that never changes. Every day I come to the ballpark to win the game. Nothing against anybody else, but I have a drive for that. Also, I’ve been known to be a great communicator with guys because of my ability to speak different languages.”
He strikes me as a guy who is always going to do what he thinks he is supposed to do and doesn't have a mind of his own. I want someone who is capable of an original thought, who is capable of telling people what they don't want to hear and not just what they do want to hear. Is Boone that guy? I have no idea. But Meulens isn't.
from nj.com - ( New Window )