HAD to be done now - there is a lot of work that needs to be done to fix this roster and prep for the draft and FA. Hiring his replacement MUST be objective #1 moving forward.
we can look to a lot of good things that Reese did for this franchise, even before he became GM. A lot of the talent he inherited in 2007 was due to the scouting network he helped build.
But he lost his way since 2012. Neglected crucial positions for too long. It was time.
I'm grateful for what he contributed, but happy to be moving on
but ultimately he failed at the most important thing...building an OL. I hate to put him in the same class as MacAdoo who has been a disaster, but it's time to start fresh.
plenty of time to find the right staff. There will be lots of terrible football ahead, but I look forward to having hope they are going in the right direction.
Jerry will land on his feet somewhere. He made some bad decisions and had some bad luck, but he'll catch on somewhere else.
and I haven't heard about the 5 times that have already offered JR a job.. as many on BBI kept assuring me would happen..
I hope the best for him.. but outside of Owners.. JR is the person most responsible for our suckage over the past 6 years.. he got a HoF coach fired.. he forced us to essentially cut ties with Eli..
and I haven't heard about the 5 times that have already offered JR a job.. as many on BBI kept assuring me would happen..
I hope the best for him.. but outside of Owners.. JR is the person most responsible for our suckage over the past 6 years.. he got a HoF coach fired.. he forced us to essentially cut ties with Eli..
that the giants realize how inept marc ross is, notice that the drafts began to tank around the time he was brought on board, and don't retain him in any capacity.
it's time for a cleansing. Jerry R was not all bad but we can do better in the personnel department. Good job and let's get a GM to move us in a better direction.
have to get rid of the scouts. Reese wasn't making ridiculous day three picks like A. Robinson, M. Thompson, and all the rest. He was acting on recommendations from his scouts. They were the staff pounding the table for those guys.
pretty funny that Giants.com has no mention of any of this
I appreciate that Reese had a role in not one but two Super Bowl victories. I would have liked to have seen what a real NFL coach could have done with this roster this year. Theres talent on this team which has been completed undelivered on the field and the personnel cupboard is far from bare. I feel much the way I did when TC was forced to retire, this is the right move, occurring a bit too late and with a very uncertain justification and an even less certain future.
Its time to move forward with a new GM and coaching staff and a refresh of the entire organization. But I wont forget those two Super Bowls and Im happy to offer my sincere thanks to Jerry Reese for his role in building two championship teams. Thank you Jerry Reese, for all youve done, I wish you only the best moving forward.
some disastrous. Poor roster management, faulty personnel evaluation, many bad fits for scheme. Putting McAdoo in place. A stubborn, self-righteous unwillingness to acknowledge the obvious.
He did a fair amount of good, but between some bad luck (how many talented players had very short careers here), some genuinely bad drafts, and non existent FA acquisitions, he had to go. I wish him well. The irony to me is Ernie lost power and eventually forced out partly due to his handling of the offensive line. I don't know how Reese didn't prioritize that given what happened to his predecessor.
never traded down in any round in any draft. That must be a record for a GM with this tenure. How could he have had that much confidence in his picks? Football is also a violent game. More picks provide depth. We don't need 15 picks every April, but a few extra here and there would have helped.
There was a very good chance that Reese would try to sell ownership on passing on one of the top QB's because of Webb. Reese would then pass on several huge offers for the #2 pick and take Barkley or Chubb because we all know Reese doesn't trade down.
Wow. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Even the 2011 team was 9-7. We have not been a consistently good team for almost the whole Reese GM tenure. We have for the most part stunk for 6 years. We can and should do better.
have to get rid of the scouts. Reese wasn't making ridiculous day three picks like A. Robinson, M. Thompson, and all the rest. He was acting on recommendations from his scouts. They were the staff pounding the table for those guys.
Wow. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. Even the 2011 team was 9-7. We have not been a consistently good team for almost the whole Reese GM tenure. We have for the most part stunk for 6 years. We can and should do better.
Just like Coughlin was for Reese. TC must be feeling vindicated now. Great ending. JR made a lot of $$$ now he can zoot suit it out of the NFL. I will apologize if he ever gets another job in the NFL.
firings were very justified but let's remember that JR has been a member of this organization for over 20 years and has given his heart and souls to it. Mara said that it was very emotional for both he and JR...Once a Giant always a Giant
him with one last task. The Giants should have put the names in contention for the GM job on a dart board and let Jerry throw a dart like he did during the drafts.
after calling for this action for the last six seasons while being banned countless times for labeling this know nothing as an Empty Suit because it was ever so obvious that this guy didnt understand the game. While proclaiming he wasnt a sexy move move type of guy thats all he did! We had a franchise QB yet he failed to realize he needed to protect his greatest asset. (Mentally disturbing)
While the uninformed here were proudly shouting in Reese we trust they were blindly lead to our current plight. Thats right look in the mirror its all of you.
Now lets right this ship and wipe out the dismal management of this guy who was in a job way over his head and way over his pay grade.
Even Jerry Jones knows this - look at the OL he built in Dallas.
Let's not go crazy here. He had to be physically restrained from blowing the pick on Johnny Manziel. It's not a coincidence that the Cowboys have improved as Jerry has turned over more of it to his son.
Reese and mcadoo shouldn't be in the same sentence
Reese had his flaws but a lot of people are killing all of his drafts. That's unfair and to say his all his drafts were average at best is flat out false. This year's draft looks to be very good even at the very least. Could be special.
Reese probably had to go, he had a lot more misses lately but mcadoo was a fucking disaster. Reese brought plenty over the years. Mcadoo brought jack squat. No Beckham? Mcadoo would have been exposed in five minutes.
Reese will get a GM job again in my view or at least get strong consideration. Mcadoo won't sniff another HC job. Not sure he even gets an oc job again.
RE: He seems like a guy who looks forward not back
has been with The Org since 1994. He earned every promotion he got and was a key architect in two championships. He gave us Odell Beckham.
The house-cleaning was necessary. This is a ruthless, highly competitive, high turnover business. Good guys get fired; hopefully this helps accelerate the emergence of the next contending NYG team.
But the snark and celebration on this thread is unreal. Of course it didn't end well. But over 24 years (!) JR gave a lot to this team.
Thrill Ride understands that it's very tempting to make a painfully unfunny quip, perhaps an uncreative nickname. ZIP IT. Sorry our favorite team didn't win more football games recently. It's a tough Biz. Try to be at least remotely respectful.
2016: Janoris Jenkins (All-Pro), Olivier Vernon (All-Pro), Damon Harrison (All-Pro), Sterling Sheppard (All-Rookie team)
2017: Evan Engram Dalvin Tomlinson
Of the additions, he brought in 6 players that made either 1st or 2nd team All-Pro
Sorry but any half way decent coach should get more than 2 wins with 6 pro bowl players on your team..
Even Jerry Jones knows this - look at the OL he built in Dallas.
Let's not go crazy here. He had to be physically restrained from blowing the pick on Johnny Manziel. It's not a coincidence that the Cowboys have improved as Jerry has turned over more of it to his son.
That's true Hammer ("don't hurt me") .... but, somebody down there knows what they are doing. Their OL is the only thing that I envy about that organization.
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The #Giants are also firing GM Jerry Reese, per @AKinkhabwala. A housecleaning.
But its about fucking time
Quinn interim hc?
Aditi - ( New Window )
Time for change was now.
Bring your playbook
I guess McAdoo did Giants fans a favor with that cluster fuck last week.
We all know hes probably getting promoted...
Marc Ross?
Chris Mara?
C'mon man, a clean house is a clean house.....do it do it!!!!!
But he lost his way since 2012. Neglected crucial positions for too long. It was time.
I'm grateful for what he contributed, but happy to be moving on
No. They've only had four, right? The Maras were their own GMs until Robustelli in the '70s. He retired, as did Young and Accorsi.
I've said it over and over, the only good time to fire a GM is mid-season.
The scouting staff can stay in tact and not scramble to other open jobs. Chris Mara will oversee the process from now until a new GM is installed.
This is the best case scenario.
Ditto the coaching staff. no holdovers.
I agree.
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Have the Giants ever even fired a GM before?
Andy Robustelli was the last one let go.
He wasn't fired. He resigned after the 1978 season but had told them team before the season that 1978 would be his last year.
Jerry will land on his feet somewhere. He made some bad decisions and had some bad luck, but he'll catch on somewhere else.
Good.
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Eli is still there. Did he get fired too.
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Have the Giants ever even fired a GM before?
Andy Robustelli was the last one let go.
He wasn't fired. He resigned after the 1978 season but had told them team before the season that 1978 would be his last year.
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I hope the best for him.. but outside of Owners.. JR is the person most responsible for our suckage over the past 6 years.. he got a HoF coach fired.. he forced us to essentially cut ties with Eli..
I hope the best for him.. but outside of Owners.. JR is the person most responsible for our suckage over the past 6 years.. he got a HoF coach fired.. he forced us to essentially cut ties with Eli..
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ross is a bigger problem than reese, IMO
She really is
Marc Ross?
Chris Mara?
C'mon man, a clean house is a clean house.....do it do it!!!!!
This.
We're not even halfway done.
I want scouts to go too.
Abrams is the GM and that feels pretty temporary.
Kudos to ESPN
Its time to move forward with a new GM and coaching staff and a refresh of the entire organization. But I wont forget those two Super Bowls and Im happy to offer my sincere thanks to Jerry Reese for his role in building two championship teams. Thank you Jerry Reese, for all youve done, I wish you only the best moving forward.
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Marc Ross?
Chris Mara?
C'mon man, a clean house is a clean house.....do it do it!!!!!
This.
We're not even halfway done.
I want scouts to go too.
More than likely the scouts were fine. But the FO takes the evals and makes the decisions. The info is there but not properly interpreted.
Maybe the guy who updates their website was also fired?
+1,000. The new GM should bring in his scouts.
It was time to move on, but that doesn't take away from what he accomplished.
I wish TC could come back and help shop for the groceries.
Yet many pine for Coughlin.
Too many reaches/projects eventually caught up to him.
Good move, tear down and start fresh.............
wowl what a racist statement
They will screw this up and name Ross GM.
While the uninformed here were proudly shouting in Reese we trust they were blindly lead to our current plight. Thats right look in the mirror its all of you.
Now lets right this ship and wipe out the dismal management of this guy who was in a job way over his head and way over his pay grade.
Even Jerry Jones knows this - look at the OL he built in Dallas.
Kevin Gilbride said yesterday (or the day before) the OL started deteriorating when he was there. How long ago was that?
He gambled his future on guys like John Jerry, etc ... and he lost.
Even Jerry Jones knows this - look at the OL he built in Dallas.
Let's not go crazy here. He had to be physically restrained from blowing the pick on Johnny Manziel. It's not a coincidence that the Cowboys have improved as Jerry has turned over more of it to his son.
Reese probably had to go, he had a lot more misses lately but mcadoo was a fucking disaster. Reese brought plenty over the years. Mcadoo brought jack squat. No Beckham? Mcadoo would have been exposed in five minutes.
Reese will get a GM job again in my view or at least get strong consideration. Mcadoo won't sniff another HC job. Not sure he even gets an oc job again.
Who gives a shit what Tom Coughlin is doing?
Was he cracking many smiles when he was missing the playoffs in four straight seasons?
The house-cleaning was necessary. This is a ruthless, highly competitive, high turnover business. Good guys get fired; hopefully this helps accelerate the emergence of the next contending NYG team.
But the snark and celebration on this thread is unreal. Of course it didn't end well. But over 24 years (!) JR gave a lot to this team.
Thrill Ride understands that it's very tempting to make a painfully unfunny quip, perhaps an uncreative nickname. ZIP IT. Sorry our favorite team didn't win more football games recently. It's a tough Biz. Try to be at least remotely respectful.
2014: Odell Beckham (2-time All-Pro), Weston Richburg, Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie (All-Pro 2016),
2015: Landon Collins (All-Pro)
2016: Janoris Jenkins (All-Pro), Olivier Vernon (All-Pro), Damon Harrison (All-Pro), Sterling Sheppard (All-Rookie team)
2017: Evan Engram Dalvin Tomlinson
Of the additions, he brought in 6 players that made either 1st or 2nd team All-Pro
Sorry but any half way decent coach should get more than 2 wins with 6 pro bowl players on your team..
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Even Jerry Jones knows this - look at the OL he built in Dallas.
Let's not go crazy here. He had to be physically restrained from blowing the pick on Johnny Manziel. It's not a coincidence that the Cowboys have improved as Jerry has turned over more of it to his son.
That's true Hammer ("don't hurt me") .... but, somebody down there knows what they are doing. Their OL is the only thing that I envy about that organization.