Sorry if this has been posted somewhere. I didn’t have a chance to be all over the site throughout the day but I just heard this on the drive home. Thought it was worth putting up. Schwartz was on with Doug Gottlieb.
He said he thinks with Ernie Accorsi in the fold now, he thinks Gettleman is a very good possibility for the next Giants GM. Gettleman, IMO, would be a safe, solid choice, with his most recent success being the Carolina Panthers.
Schwartz also talked about likely choices for head coach and he pointed to McDaniels, who was NOT a good head coach the last time around for him. One interesting similarity to Ben McAdoo, McDaniels also was fired after his 28th game as head coach. Schwartz said McDaniels went off to sharpen his skills under Bill Belichick, and he said he believes Bill would give his blessing, given his relationship with the Maras.
He added that he thinks McAdoo might do well to follow McDaniels’ example, go work in a solid program under a vet, and hone his skills.
FWIW
I think this is a "no guts, no glory" situation. Fuck the safe choice for coach, look for someone great.
GM maybe a little less so.
Giants are a premier NFL franchise in the biggest and best market. They will spend money and provide new GM and coach with resources necessary to win. The facilities are very good. And they will have a top-5 draft choice to play with and if the new GM/ HC team want to play it this way, they will have a franchise QB to mentor the next generation. It's actually an ideal situation and candidates will be lining up at the door.
I agree.
Gettleman can be a number 2 but I don't want him as the lead dog.
McDaniels worries me. Remember, being a great HC has little to do with being a great coordinator. And how can anybody truly judge McDaniels when he has Brady as a QB?
Give me a guy that can lead men as the HC. Give me a guy that connects with his players but at the same time holds them all to a high standard with no exceptions. Give me a guy that can put a quality staff around him. Give me a guy that will support and stick up for his players. Give me a guy that will give all the credit of the team's success to those that he leads. Give me a guy that takes the blame of all the issues that happen under his watch whether it is his fault or not. Give me a guy that knows how to overprepare a group of men for all situations so that the players aren't overthinking on the field which allows them to play at full speed. Give me a guy that is able to exploit an opponent's weakness while minizing his own weaknesses. Give me a guy that puts a team together with an identity. Give me a guy that can rise above any adversity.
My point ... calling plays tells us very little about how a person will be as a HC. These interviews better be taken more seriously than last time. We dragged our feet through the process last time. We were slow. We didn't take advantage of interviewing as many coaches as possible. We basically had our mind made up that it was better to keep McAdoo since we could keep both the offensive and defensive systems in place.
What were his weknesses?
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Give me a guy that can lead men as the HC. Give me a guy that connects with his players but at the same time holds them all to a high standard with no exceptions. Give me a guy that can put a quality staff around him. Give me a guy that will support and stick up for his players. Give me a guy that will give all the credit of the team's success to those that he leads. Give me a guy that takes the blame of all the issues that happen under his watch whether it is his fault or not. Give me a guy that knows how to overprepare a group of men for all situations so that the players aren't overthinking on the field which allows them to play at full speed. Give me a guy that is able to exploit an opponent's weakness while minizing his own weaknesses. Give me a guy that puts a team together with an identity. Give me a guy that can rise above any adversity.
Sounds like Tom Coughlin.
I wish people that keep blaming Chris Mara would show us all what exactly his job duties entail. Nobody freaking knows, yet we keep seeing the hurd calling for his head.
What strings, exactly? Is Chris Mara responsible for not fielding a competent offensive line? Did Chris Mara secretly design McAdoo's offense? Did he give Reese specific orders on whom to draft, what positions to ignore? Did he give McAdoo orders on when to start and stop calling plays? Is he responsible for Davis Webb not getting any practice reps? Do you have any idea what his role is in the organization, what he's responsible for? Do you have any empirical basis for making a judgment on his competence and performance? Or are you just pissed off that his name is Mara and he is an employee of a team of which he is part owner?
Thought he put together the team that went to the Super Bowl. I consider that t be a success.
"YOU WANNA GO TO THE GIANTS??? FINE!!! GO TO THE GIANTS!!!"
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Chris Mara to continue to pull the strings in the bushes.
I wish people that keep blaming Chris Mara would show us all what exactly his job duties entail. Nobody freaking knows, yet we keep seeing the hurd calling for his head.
Nobody ever answers when challenged to answer what his job responsibilities are. They just keep parroting the same thing over and over.
Gettleman uhh we can do better
Giants really need some new voices, not retreads.
He is also close to 70 years old. Would be very uninspired choice imo
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Chris Mara to continue to pull the strings in the bushes.
I wish people that keep blaming Chris Mara would show us all what exactly his job duties entail. Nobody freaking knows, yet we keep seeing the hurd calling for his head.
Nobody ever answers when challenged to answer what his job responsibilities are. They just keep parroting the same thing over and over.
Of course. And in this case Rflair was Reese’s biggest defender which makes it even funnier. He always insisted that talent wasn’t the problem and Reese was doing a good job. So now he’s blaming Chris Mara for “pulling the strings from behind the bushes”? So when he thought the team had talent it was because of Reese. But now that he was shit canned, it was all Maras fault. Unreal
I think the Saban ship has sailed. Would not rule it out completely but chances are probably minimal
Giants really need some new voices, not retreads.
He is also close to 70 years old. Would be very uninspired choice imo
In addition to that, his tenure with Carolina ended for legitimate reasons as outlined in the piece.
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The Giants need new blood.
I'm not opposed to McDaniels, though the man I really want is another (ex) Patriot: Vrabel.
I thought Grudens comments last night during the broadcast were interesting. He sounded a little tongue in cheek or "half-serious", but he basically said he'd be interested if the Giants kept Eli around. I was reading and had the game on in the background but that caught.my attention. Was never a big Gruden fan but I don't hate him either.
You're insane. I don't want McDaniels because he's yet another one of Belichick's disappointing football children but he would jump at the opportunity . Bill would tell him so. Furthermore, what did you have in mind for his career? Heir apparent to Belickick ? When is that precisely ? Brady wants to continue playing .
This is the third time i have heard this. Someone else posted the same, I asked a buddy of mine who works for organization and he said "Gruden's definitely interested". Interesting.
You could vomit on my vomit.
Why wouldn’t he be interested? Unless you outdo McAdoo you are basically guaranteed a minimum 5 year tenure.
People aren’t realizing despite the mess of this year how attractive these Giants jobs are. The GM job I can guarantee you has guys clamoring for. We’ve had three guys as GM in forty years.
That's why you just gotta slap him,it will help put to rest conspiracy theories.Because after all,this is New England.
Buyout is N/A if he leaves for the pros, if I’m not mistaken.
This job/town will chew you up and spit you out. We've seen that with Handley and McAdoo. It is amazing in retrospect how the Giants could think they could handle that role. It almost was strong enough to can Coughlin.
Don't underestimate this when looking for a new coach or franchise QB.
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He’s never developed a quarterback with either team he coached.
He’s never developed a quarterback with either team he coached.
Accurate.
With that track record, why would anyone continue to look to them as a source for the next HC or GM. I'd stay away from them completely - wouldn't even get a glance.
There have got to be many better options elsewhere.
How did he not help Gannon? Gannon was a 34 year old journeyman when he arrived with Gruden. Gruden turned him into a top 5 QB. Brian Griese also had the best season of his career under Gruden in 2004.
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But while he may not have developed Gannon, he sure got a lot more out of him than anyone else did.
How did he not help Gannon? Gannon was a 34 year old journeyman when he arrived with Gruden. Gruden turned him into a top 5 QB. Brian Griese also had the best season of his career under Gruden in 2004.
Wow I need coffee. Sorry Greg I misread your post.
You haven't embarrassed yourself enough with your Ben McAdoo ass-kissing? Or your wish that Eli break his neck in the first half of the Dallas game? By any measure, you should have had your account suspended, but carry on with your drivel.
I guess you missed Belichick's return visit to Giants stadium a couple of years ago where he was all emotional and even cried on camera. Don't let that stop you from posting bs.
mcdaniels was horrific in denver--i was living there at the time--all he did was alienate everyone including young qb cutler and wr marshall who were all-pros--don't think cutler ever recovered. he seemed dedicated to destroying the team, and after he did, went back to new england with a wrecked franchise that NE didn't have to worry about. maybe he learned, but i'm not sure he has the personality to be a good head coach. also he cannot have good feelings about the giants who beat the patriots twice in the super bowl. i don't trust him.
gettleman i could definitely see. he has history with the giants and he has done well in carolina. i would be happy with that hire. his first draft pick will be a franchise qb. ernie knows something about that and i trust they would pick well.