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TimsGiants : 12/5/2017 10:59 pm
Anyone else love this kid? Him and Odel would destroy the league together. I think most people have Rosen,Darnold and Mayfield ahead of him. If he is there I hope Gmen get him.





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Hes better  
Powerclean765 : 12/6/2017 1:33 pm : link
than Deshaun Watson who went #12 last year.
I think it would be an exciting change to have a QB like Jackson  
Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 1:38 pm : link
However I am just concerned about the risk factor involved. If he is the pick I will not be upset but Jackson wouldn't be my top choice. If he is the selection then I think keeping Eli for another year is crucial. Let Eli start and mentor Jackson and Webb for a season. Jackson would benefit greatly from a year in the strength and conditioning program and learning from Eli on what it takes to be a professional starting QB in NY.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 1:40 pm : link
Taking Jackson is even more enticing to me if Webb shows he can play. It would make it much easier to absorb an injury.

Perhaps it could be an RGIII/Cousins type of scenario - except I think Jackson can be a better player than RGIII.
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Sean : 12/6/2017 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13727788 arcarsenal said:
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Taking Jackson is even more enticing to me if Webb shows he can play. It would make it much easier to absorb an injury.

Perhaps it could be an RGIII/Cousins type of scenario - except I think Jackson can be a better player than RGIII.


I think that is an enticing scenario. I’d be more willing to take the risk if we have a proven backup QB.
You have to build around any QB's skill set  
Go Terps : 12/6/2017 1:43 pm : link
When we got Eli, we built the offense to fit his abilities. It'd be no different with Jackson.

And if you ask me, it's probably easier to build around a guy like Jackson than it is Eli. You just have to be capable and willing to do it. I think a key factor is to back (or any other mobile QB) up with two other mobile QBs capable of running the same offense. Fortunately, college football is overflowing with mobile quarterbacks.
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Jay on the Island : 12/6/2017 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13727788 arcarsenal said:
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Taking Jackson is even more enticing to me if Webb shows he can play. It would make it much easier to absorb an injury.

Perhaps it could be an RGIII/Cousins type of scenario - except I think Jackson can be a better player than RGIII.

If Jackson is the target then getting a coach like Gruden is even more important.
The guy to get to run the offense is Gary Kubiak  
Go Terps : 12/6/2017 1:59 pm : link
We've got two really good tight ends that would be perfect in his offense. Remember what he did with Matt Schaub and Owen Daniels in Houston?

When I look at the offense and what we have that we know is good and cost controlled for a few years, the tight ends are the first thing that stands out.

We should be building around Engram and Ellison.
Jackson  
Giantslifer : 12/6/2017 2:25 pm : link
The NFL is changing to a mobile QB league. Jackson is the only one of top 4 QB's that is mobile. his main problem is he list at 211 lbs. He will get killed at that weight just like RG3 and Watson (will) .
If he can put on 20 lbs and still be mobile -- he is the future.
Jackson is the best football player in the draft. However, not a QB.  
Ivan15 : 12/6/2017 2:30 pm : link
Draft him as an athlete but find a different position for him.
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arcarsenal : 12/6/2017 2:33 pm : link
Move him where? WR? Does he have any experience playing that position?

Much of Jackson's value is rooted in the fact that he is a QB.

Terelle Pryor hasn't exactly been a gleaming example based on what happened in Washington this year.
Wheres this Jackson needs to put on 20 pounds from?  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2017 8:24 pm : link
Eli is 6'5" 220.

It's weird nobody said Tannehill needed to play WR when he spent a season and a half at WR.
People act like Jackson plays in Division III  
Go Terps : 12/6/2017 8:29 pm : link
The guy put up huge numbers against Clemson and Florida State...schools whose defenders are going to be populating the NFL at the same time he is.
RE: People act like Jackson plays in Division III  
ajr2456 : 12/6/2017 8:38 pm : link
In comment 13728417 Go Terps said:
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The guy put up huge numbers against Clemson and Florida State...schools whose defenders are going to be populating the NFL at the same time he is.


While playing with essentially D2 offensive lineman
Jackson could hit really big  
LatHarv83 : 12/7/2017 7:56 am : link
He’s a risky bet; I don’t love his frame for his style, but he really is an incredible talent. I maintain he’s the most exciting dual threat I’ve ever seen at that level to watch. I’d put him above Vick, Cam, Vince Young, Mansfield and anyone else. If things break right he could have a huge ceiling. He’s worth a gamble but I’d trade down if you’re gonna do it
Manziel  
LatHarv83 : 12/7/2017 7:56 am : link
Not Mansfield. Autocorrect
If the new GM believes he has the mental makeup  
Jim in Forest Hills : 12/7/2017 8:27 am : link
Then how can you not consider Jackson? He’s so physically gifted it’s laughable.
Here's something I don't get  
Greg from LI : 12/7/2017 9:38 am : link
If Vick was the overall #1 pick, why is Jackson considered a second-rounder? He's every bit as electrifying a runner and more a polished passer than Vick was.
This isn't true..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 12/7/2017 9:43 am : link
yet is often said:

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Jackson
Giantslifer : 12/6/2017 2:25 pm : link : reply
The NFL is changing to a mobile QB league. Jackson is the only one of top 4 QB's that is mobile


The NFL has had many successful QB's lately who aren't necessarily mobile, but offer escapeablility. Guys like Stafford, Ben, Rodgers, Wentz, Winston, Goff are a few who like to remain in the pocket but can evade the rush and extend plays.

Almost all of the top QB prospects for this draft have that attribute. Don't confuse QB's running the ball as being mobile while guys who prefer the pocket as statues.
RE: Here's something I don't get  
arcarsenal : 12/7/2017 10:18 am : link
In comment 13728684 Greg from LI said:
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If Vick was the overall #1 pick, why is Jackson considered a second-rounder? He's every bit as electrifying a runner and more a polished passer than Vick was.


Probably because of Vick, actually.

People probably view him more as a cautionary tale of a "scrambling QB" because he was never much of an a passer (even though he had a cannon arm) but I think Jackson can be better.
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