Curious what people think now about Eli and the HoF. I know there are many who think that outside of NY Eli isn’t highly regarded by his peers and/or the media. I never believed that, just thought he’s an easy guy to make fun of but was and is respected.
This whole ordeal in a way makes his HoF case a bit easier to diagnose. We just saw an outpouring of support thrown Eli’s way from ex players, current players, guys in his draft class, and the media who usually eviscerates him. His fathers commments about knowijg Eli would be able to handle NY while at the same time saying Peyton wouldn’t be able to do it was interesting as well. Interesting when you think about what’s happened the past week and how it willl effect his legacy.
Top 10 in ALMOST all passing statistics*
It may take several years for it to happen.......
Just too many average seasons, losing seasons, and the the fact that 12 out of 14 seasons, he did not win a playoff game....and his only elite year, was not really elite statistically....
He will get in because of his iron man status(that was aided by rule changes that protected qb's) that helped him accumulate top 10 stats, but it won't be right away....two SB runs, is basically his career.....what ticks me off, is the failure of the front office, the last 5 years, that made it impossible for him to continue the magic of 2011.....He should have been in more playoff games these last 5 years....who knows what might have happened if he did?
He’s clearly one of the leagues greatest ambassadors - you can count on 1 hand how many players would receive the same amount of outcry especially in NYC.
JUST for his 2 super bowl wins (and super bowl MVPs) over Tom Brady and Bill Belicheck.
People forget how bad statistically Joe Namath was (career passer rating of 65.5? WOW.) But he's in the hall for that one guaranteed win in SB 3, and he wasn't even the MVP of that game.
Aikman didn't have as impressive stats as Eli, but he's in there thanks to 3 super bowl wins.
Eli's two legendary wins, 2nd longest starting streak by a QB, combined with being top 10 in all passing categories, plus the work he's done off the field (NFL man of the year)... theoretically he should be a lock.
The HOF has never been just reserved for guys who put up monster numbers year in and year out for 10-15 years. There are many factors to consider.
Also, I hope Eli Slobster is not a HOF voter.
Beyond that, he’s been a sleep slightly above QB with longevity, and stats based on that longevity.
Exactly and true football X & O guys understood the Kilbride system it was never about high comp % now some of those INTs are strictly on Eli and the system but some are system based .... but that system allowed for miracles to happen ... High Risk - High Reward ... downside inconsistent results ... HoF bound though I think 2nd ballot (1st is debatable as the INTs will be debated)
I've always been of the opinion that if you have to make the case for someone as a Hall of Famer, that guy isn't a Hall of Famer. I think it comes down to being able to say it aloud: "Is "X" a Hall of Famer?" Anyone for whom the answer is not an immediate and resounding "YES!" is not a Hall of Famer.
Is Johnny Unitas a Hall of Famer? YES!
Is Jim Kelly a Hall of Famer? No.
By that standard I would say Eli is not. If we consider the Hall of Fame the highest possible individual honor that a player can receive, I would think it should only be bestowed upon those players so rare that they and their peers belong in a very small room. There's a room of quarterbacks (Montana, Unitas, Graham, Brady, and maybe a couple more) that is ultra-exclusive and does not include Eli.
But the Hall of Fame doesn't operate that way. It's been reduced to a conversation of "If so and so is in, such and such should also be in."
So by that standard, if guys like Jim Kelly, Aeneas Williams, and Cris Carter are in, Eli Manning is for damn sure a Hall of Famer.
Beyond that, he’s been a sleep slightly above QB with longevity, and stats based on that longevity.
I will disagree with that. He was lights out all of 2011. 31st ranked defense, dead LAST in rushing - the only reason that team even sniffed the playoffs was Elisha Nelson Manning. He put that team on his back. It kills me how many so-called Giant fans will not acknowledge that.
He was also very good in 2009, '14 and '15. He played in an offense for most of his career that just was not QBR friendly. Yes, he has often turned the ball over too much, but don't throw out the baby with the bath water.
Check out article by Gregg Easterbrook on Tuesday Morning Quarterback site.
Check out article by Gregg Easterbrook on Tuesday Morning Quarterback site.
I haven't read it, but the next time Gregg Easterbrook has anything interesting to say will be the first.