Just watching a lot of the Gettleman interviews from the past week or so and the most telling quote I thought was during his interview with papa when he said “most great head coaches have usually been defensive guys, let’s be honest...”
I think Wilks’ ability to command the locker room, teach and demand physicality will be the #1 thing that Gettleman looks for. During Wilks’ press conference after the Bills game, he said “nobody attacks the ball like we do, and we demand it” I thought that was awesome.
Gettleman has also made numerous statements regarding defense winning championships and the head coach having a good handle on everything. Wilks’ demeanor seems like he is that kind of guy.
With McDaniels and Shurmur most likely being the other top candidates available, them being offensive guys and not exactly having great success in their first stint, I think Wilks will be the choice.
Patricia is the wildcard, but I just don’t see Mara hiring this guy as the face of the team. My money is on Wilks and I think if Carolina loses, he could be hired by Tuesday or Wednesday or so.
I’ve always admired Tomlin as a Coach, so Wilks to me looks like a great candidate.
I’ve always admired Tomlin as a Coach, so Wilks to me looks like a great candidate.
I got that feel as well. Also the way he answers questions in a very detailed way. Not that it really matters but it seems like the guy actually knows what he’s talking about and thinks about the answer before he speaks. He respects the person he’s talking to.
Agree with this completely.
I like McDaniels a lot. Think he’d be a great hire. But I’d want him more for his offensive resume and his work for a championship organization like the Pats and not necessarily his HC experience.
It's not even necessarily the HC experience - even still, McDaniels has been an NFL OC for nearly 10 years now.
Wilks was nothing more than a positional coach until this year.
One NFL season as a DC - otherwise all he's been is a DB coach at this level.
Denver had the worst defense in football the year McDaniels got fired. I don't think his stint there was as much of his fault as it gets made out to be.
Parcels alwYs talked about how important his HC experience at Air Force was. I do not want anyone who had never been a HC st any level
You like Wilks?
Shocking.
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Especially if he can hire a strong experienced OC like Nora Turner. I would love to see what Norv could do with OBJ and Engram
You like Wilks?
Shocking.
Crazy, right?
Yeah, it absolutely does - I'm sure it's something that was addressed during his interview. Gettleman probably wanted to get a sense of how much he's learned from that experience.
McDaniels isn't my first choice, but I do think he'd be a great hire if we're drafting a QB.
McDaniels isn't my first choice, but I do think he'd be a great hire if we're drafting a QB.
Who do you want as of now?
Meaning he walked in knowing no one in Pitt snd impressed them with his knowledge, preparation etc. not once but twice. So much so they cancelled their 2nd round with Rivera
If this is the case, Wilks knows Gettleman and this is Gettlemans intuition based on what he saw in Carolina. This is begging the question on him.
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McDaniels isn't my first choice, but I do think he'd be a great hire if we're drafting a QB.
Who do you want as of now?
If we're discounting the pipe dreams like Belichick or Saban...
I actually like Shurmur a lot and think he'd be a great hire. The record in Cleveland doesn't give me pause. It's just a completely rotten organization. He's worked wonders for Case Keenum, a guy who many had pegged as a career backup at best. He has extensive coordinator experience.
We'll see how the interview goes and if he impresses the brass enough, but he's probably my first "realistic" choice right now.
Both NE guys are right below him for me. I think I slightly prefer Patricia to McDaniels, but I would be on board with either one.
I want nothing to do with Scwartz or Studesville. Major pass on both guys.
Yes.
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McDaniels isn't my first choice, but I do think he'd be a great hire if we're drafting a QB.
Who do you want as of now?
If we're discounting the pipe dreams like Belichick or Saban...
I actually like Shurmur a lot and think he'd be a great hire. The record in Cleveland doesn't give me pause. It's just a completely rotten organization. He's worked wonders for Case Keenum, a guy who many had pegged as a career backup at best. He has extensive coordinator experience.
We'll see how the interview goes and if he impresses the brass enough, but he's probably my first "realistic" choice right now.
Both NE guys are right below him for me. I think I slightly prefer Patricia to McDaniels, but I would be on board with either one.
I want nothing to do with Scwartz or Studesville. Major pass on both guys.
I agree with this. I think a young guy on his second HC chance is ideal. 99% of the time, a coach does not get a third chance to be a HC. Most coaches know this and it’s why it’s so crucial to go to the right place. Shurmur strikes me as someone who will be very solid.
The guy I’m most intrigued with is Patricia. He is very smart from all indications and has coached both sides of the ball.
For those who like Wilks please tell why and what makes him a good Coach
I don’t know much about Wilkes, and I’m sure DG likes him, but I am dubious of hiring a guy with one year f coordinator experience. I think we may be taking the “commands the rooom” thing too literally.
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I wouldn't be too thrilled if WIlks was the guy, honestly.
The track record isn't there. It would be a really hard sell for me after what we just went through with McAdoo.
I understand your reasoning but what I like most about Wilks is his style and leadership qualities that McAdoo did not possess.
Even still - I think it's too risky. I need to see more tangible, NFL-level results.
I'd be happier with either NE guy, honestly.
One thing to consider they guy picking him is a hell of a lot better than who picked the previous coach
Wow, he was QB coach for Drew Brees, he must have been great! He was OC for a Detroit offense that was a whopping 19th in yards and 22nd in points, and then fired 6 games into the following year.
If they’re going to hire a neophyte defensive coach as HC, I would hope they would get a very experienced OC, preferably one with HC experience, not someone living off his grandfathers name.
1. Extensive experience as a coordinator at NFL level
2. Head coaching experience at some level (college or NFL)
3. Flexible and creative enough to tailor system to best utilize players available
4. Innovative in system and play design
5. Advanced strategic and tactical thinker
6. Good feel for game and play calling to take advantage of in-game opportunities
7. Effective leadership skills
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Agreed
We don't know if any of the canidates will make a good head coach. So why use that line of argument against Wilks?
By your criteria most of the HC candidates are unsuitable. Wilks does have HC experience if you count his year as a HC in the college ranks and is currently the assistant HC for Carolina. Besides, hiring any HC is a risk. If it wasn't there would be no HC openings.
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coupled with no HC experience makes it risky choice despite the Gettleman connection.
By your criteria most of the HC candidates are unsuitable. Wilks does have HC experience if you count his year as a HC in the college ranks and is currently the assistant HC for Carolina. Besides, hiring any HC is a risk. If it wasn't there would be no HC openings.
Some not most have NFL HC experience.
I’d rather hire her husband Norv.
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The guy is not a proven head coach and he was a first year coordinator. We just had to deal with another guy who just got a job as a coordinator then in the blink of an eye was promoted to head coach.
I am sure Wilks would do a better job than McAdoo but I am sorry but my bar is set a little higher than that.
The guy is not a proven head coach and he was a first year coordinator. We just had to deal with another guy who just got a job as a coordinator then in the blink of an eye was promoted to head coach.
I am sure Wilks would do a better job than McAdoo but I am sorry but my bar is set a little higher than that.
Well aside from Belichick or Saban (both extremely unlikely), this is what is out there. This is why looking for a HC sucks & stability is the answer.
Back in 2013, the ONLY coach who was hired that still has a job is Andy Reid. It’s not easy. McDermott got the Bills to the playoffs his first year. Tomlin was a risky pick. It’s tough to predict.