We all are aware how bad our LB corp is. Watching the Rams/Falcons game and seeing the plays Dion Jones and Mark Barron are making (Barron used to play safety and Jones is the same size as Collins) shows me how badly we need impact LBs.
Collins is clearly a better player when he plays closer to the LOS. We have Andrew Adams who can play SS, and who I felt for the last few games was one of our most consistent defensive players. Wouldn't mind seeing the Giants use Collins as more of a hybrid LB, the way Deion Grant was used back in 2010.
He also doesn't want to play LB. They threatened to make him one after his rookie season and rather than do it, he worked to lose weight.
arcarsenal : 10:02 pm : link : reply
I'd rather put a better FS next to him. He was one of the best safeties in the league last year, I don't see much point in moving him. Barron was never on 2016 Collins level as a safety.
he did not come close to being the player he was in 2016......there were a lot of missed tackles, and he had all kinds of problems in coverage....
If he wants to be an all pro, he has to be a lot more consistent......
I agree that he should stay at SS, and hopefully we find a FS to pair him with........
Pretty sure spags had no choice with the poor cornerback play. A healthy Jenkins and DRC, maybe bringing Cockrell back he should be able to roam free more often
arcarsenal : 10:02 pm : link : reply
I'd rather put a better FS next to him. He was one of the best safeties in the league last year, I don't see much point in moving him. Barron was never on 2016 Collins level as a safety.
he did not come close to being the player he was in 2016......there were a lot of missed tackles, and he had all kinds of problems in coverage....
If he wants to be an all pro, he has to be a lot more consistent......
I agree that he should stay at SS, and hopefully we find a FS to pair him with........
Do you think his coverage problems may have come from the high ankle sprain he played on for 10 weeks?
I really don't know how it actually affected his play....think any player goes out there and plays without an injury? It's the nature of the beast....everyone thought it was the ankle that was the reason for Flowers' play his rookie year...IT WASN'T....
Collins did not look like Collins right out of the gate....
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Do you think his coverage problems may have come from the high ankle sprain he played on for 10 weeks?
I really don't know how it actually affected his play....think any player goes out there and plays without an injury? It's the nature of the beast....everyone thought it was the ankle that was the reason for Flowers' play his rookie year...IT WASN'T....
Collins did not look like Collins right out of the gate....
The difference is, we actually saw Collins play at an all-pro level in 2016, where as we were only guessing/hoping that the ankle sprain is what affected Flowers' play during his rookie year. And yes, players are all dealing with something, but a high ankle sprain is different, especially for a position like safety. I'm with arc, put a solid FS to be more of the center fielder and a healthier LC will go back to being the difference maker that he was in '16.
The Giants have fucked around with enough players thinking they can turn a guy into something he isn't.... like a left tackle.
He can play a Deone Buchanan type role in that kind of scheme, yes.
More important though, is the other S next to him. I think there needs to be a more rangy, better tackling safety than what NYG has in Thompson.
No thanks.
Strongside Linebacker
59 Devon Kennard
55 Ray-Ray Armstrong
Middle Linebacker
47 Kelvin Sheppard
46 Calvin Munson
Weakside Linebacker
48 Akeem Ayers
39 Derrick Mathews
his deal. I an not exactly sold on Thompson back there,
seems to lack speed and range. I guess that's why he went
in the third round? He doesn't make any plays back there.
Not at all.
3 legit DTs (a NT and a big DT)
2 real DEs
3 safeties
3 corners
So, in this set up,whereas you want the DL to provide both run stops and pressures, having a S that has some lb ability is not a bad thing.
This is a very multiple set.
Don't assume runs up the middle on those 3 DTS.