Garafolo-Gettleman eager to get Wilks in front of ownership

I dont see ownership putting up a fight over it. Wilks is the guy.

That is what matters here. He’s growing on me. Let Wilks be the head man with 2 strong coordinators.

I want Shurmur, but would be fine with Wilks. Just get a good OC.

Owners have to be really impressed to go with a coach with no experience...

I think that is why people.mentioned Schwartz and McDaniel so much..

In comment 13775963 Sean said:

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That is what matters here. He’s growing on me. Let Wilks be the head man with 2 strong coordinators.

He has a strong case considering his defensive background and the issues we had with discipline, unity, teamwork on the D side.

That said, he’d better make sure he finds a stud OC or he and Gettleman will end up getting McAdoo’d themselves in a couple years. Defense wins you championships, but to make the playoffs you have to score.

I’ve heard Ken Dorseys name mentioned as a OC option but I’m a little leery of handing the reigns to him. I don’t think the Eagles will let us poach DeFilippo away.

I’d prefer an older seasoned non-threatening OC. One who wouldn’t look to bolt for a HC job and can stay to develop an offense and QB.

in my view to bring in as OC if Wilks got the job. I'd like to see someone in that role with previous OC experience.

also he is in the running for a few jobs

I heard from a friend of DeFilippo that about 10 yrs ago he told him his dream job was the NYG HC position.

....has served us so well recently!

This is a plumb gig. We are the NY Football Giants!

Tisch can dial up Saban anytime now!

Jim Bob Cooter as OC?

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I won't be angry if it's Wilks - but I still think it's a bit of a hard sell given what we just dealt with.

In comment 13775993 Emlen'sGremlins said:

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....has served us so well recently! This is a plumb gig. We are the NY Football Giants! Tisch can dial up Saban anytime now!

It's 20 million just to get Saban out of Alabama. Contract buyout. Not happening.

In comment 13775994 Pete in MD said:

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Jim Bob Cooter as OC?

They apparently want to hire Patricia in Detroit with the understanding he’ll keep Cooter as OC

If people in NFL circles say Wilks can command a locker room, I believe it. The first phase of this job is going to be clearing this locker room of the stink left over from McAdoo who was a wet noodle.

The Carolina program has been a pretty successful one, rooted in running the football, defense and linebacking play. All things that play well in the Northeast and I’d love to get back to. McDermott seems to be on his way in Buffalo.

The familiarity with Gettleman is also nice.

Wilks is a fine candidate.

He's the guy who has intrigued me the most.

If you do the due diligence and think he's the guy, go get him. McAdoo is cautionary but you can't be paralyzed. Wilks could be the next McAdoo but he also could be the next Tomlin. Sounds like a dynamic, young leader.

Bears (2006-08),Chargers(2009-11),Panthers(2012-2018) Wherever Rivera went,he kept Wilks with him. Don't know if that's a good or bad thing with regards to us & the HC position!

In comment 13776021 Eric from BBI said:

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He's the guy who has intrigued me the most.

Why not the Pats coaches?

But we will be back here in 3/4 years looking for a new coach

Including a bunch from lb.

For what it's worth.

Not always translatable... but giants have not had individual stat league ints leader since AD 400.

But who is the OC? Who is gonna groom Webb and/or qb of the future. Who will get the OL to where it needs to be.

Wilks worked under norv turner.. Is he gonna come out of retirement? Dorsey? Can we snag defilippo for a year or 2 if he doesn't get a HC position.

In comment 13776041 DCPollaro said:

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But who is the OC? Who is gonna groom Webb and/or qb of the future. Who will get the OL to where it needs to be. Wilks worked under norv turner.. Is he gonna come out of retirement? Dorsey? Can we snag defilippo for a year or 2 if he doesn't get a HC position.

This is very valid. Need someone to develop a young QB.

In comment 13776039 idiotsavant said:

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Including a bunch from lb. For what it's worth. Not always translatable... but giants have not had individual stat league ints leader since AD 400.

Not a stat in my mind that correlates to coaching, really. Stevie Brown came in 2nd in the league in INTs a couple years ago. 1 off the leader.

African American head coach for the Giants, yes?

I don’t see this hire as anything like the Macadoofus hire. That wasn’t even a real process. Having a coach and GM on the same page is a big deal.

Norv Turner as OC would be awesome. He’s like Wade Philips in that he’s a poor HC but a great coordinator.

In comment 13776034 Andy in Boston said:

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In comment 13776021 Eric from BBI said: Quote: He's the guy who has intrigued me the most. Why not the Pats coaches?

I think the fact that none of BB's assistants has done well elsewhere is a major cause for concern.

In comment 13776037 BeckShepEli said:

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But we will be back here in 3/4 years looking for a new coach

He could be a great coach no one really knows .

Wilks is the Perfect fit.

Minnesota and shurmur is doing a nice job there too

What failed head coach can we compare to hiring McDaniels?

He quit on his team in the middle of a season. That's a great way to stay unemployed.

comparison because of head coaching experience, but Wilkes' personality seems to be the exact opposite of Ben's, and in a good way.

I've flipped from hoping they would grab one of the Pats guys to rooting for Wilkes. I think he is the guy.

No reason to draft a QB with first pick

I don't think anyone is saying Wilks = McAdoo as much as it's fair to have reservations about a guy with such little experience at the NFL level.

Lack of HC experience doesn't bother me, but I like to see a guy who has at least been a coordinator for a few years. Wilks has only been that this year.

If this is Gettleman's guy, and he can sell it to ownership, great - I'm not going to throw a tantrum. I'll be supportive of it.

But I don't think there's anything wrong with being a bit leery.

In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said:

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No reason to draft a QB with first pick

Huh?

In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said:

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No reason to draft a QB with first pick

Why not?

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In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh?

Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick

DG seems to like the following model:

Head Coach is CEO, leader, inspires, sets tone, establishes team identity and culture, sets rules and provides discipline. This has worked well in Pittsburg.

Wilks should be smart enough to find an experienced OC who will be in it for the long haul to ensure consistency. I am not saying he is the guy, but we would want a Norv Turner type - solid OC with no designs on a HC position.

In comment 13776067 BeckShepEli said:

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In comment 13776063 jeff57 said: Quote: In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh? Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick

Might be the dumbest thing I’ve read on this board.

In comment 13776067 BeckShepEli said:

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In comment 13776063 jeff57 said: Quote: In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh? Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick

knows what he's doing otherwise we are screwed. He's looking for someone who can be a CEO type HC. He should know pretty well whether Wilkes has that type of personality/ organizational skills. He would need to hire experience at both OC and DC I would think.

I believe expires in Pittsburgh.. Maybe an option

In comment 13776071 Ten Ton Hammer said:

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In comment 13776067 BeckShepEli said: Quote: In comment 13776063 jeff57 said: Quote: In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh? Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick

Let’s not compare Steve f’in Wilks to Bill Parcells and look at Parcells staff. This the New York Giants and we are settling for Steve Wilks lmao

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I believe expires in Pittsburgh.. Maybe an option

Haley's NYE bar fight will not endear him to any GMs!

In comment 13776077 BeckShepEli said:

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In comment 13776071 Ten Ton Hammer said: Quote: In comment 13776067 BeckShepEli said: Quote: In comment 13776063 jeff57 said: Quote: In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh? Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick Let’s not compare Steve f’in Wilks to Bill Parcells and look at Parcells staff. This the New York Giants and we are settling for Steve Wilks lmao

Parcells has nothing to do with this.

Is he who we want being OC for the long haul?

In comment 13776052 Chris684 said:

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What failed head coach can we compare to hiring McDaniels?

McDaniels.

In comment 13776067 BeckShepEli said:

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In comment 13776063 jeff57 said: Quote: In comment 13776056 BeckShepEli said: Quote: No reason to draft a QB with first pick Huh? Why draft a QB with a defensive head coach? Waste of a pick

lol

In comment 13775976 Sammo85 said:

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In comment 13775963 Sean said: Quote: That is what matters here. He’s growing on me. Let Wilks be the head man with 2 strong coordinators. He has a strong case considering his defensive background and the issues we had with discipline, unity, teamwork on the D side. That said, he’d better make sure he finds a stud OC or he and Gettleman will end up getting McAdoo’d themselves in a couple years. Defense wins you championships, but to make the playoffs you have to score. I’ve heard Ken Dorseys name mentioned as a OC option but I’m a little leery of handing the reigns to him. I don’t think the Eagles will let us poach DeFilippo away. I’d prefer an older seasoned non-threatening OC. One who wouldn’t look to bolt for a HC job and can stay to develop an offense and QB.

Ken Dorsey the old Miami QB when they ruled college football at the turn of the century? Dude is a human computer so I think he’d do OK as an OC

The Giants must believe that the turnaround of the team will take a few years
Typically , with a few exceptions, inexperienced coachs take longer to develop
The Giants must believe that they have to start over and rebuild

It's 20 million just to get Saban out of Alabama. Contract buyout. Not happening. [/quote]

Why not? Are we the Mets? I'd like to think that we are the Yankees.