Grown tired the last couple years of an offensive that doesn't seem to have any pissed off, firey, get in your face and call you p**** for not pancaking the guy you're supposed to block linemen. We need some dudes to play through the whistle with some spirit and some veteran leadership to create an identity and confidence. We need some hard pipe-hitting mofos.
Looking at the list of 2018 Free Agents, anyone have any ideas as to which vets can come in and provide some energy and attitude on the line?
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Solder is too risky. He has shown signs of decline. Norwell should be our main FA target. I think chances are good that the Giants will go hard for him due to the Gettleman connection. One of the benefits of taking a QB with the second pick is that you have an inexpensive starter for years so you can use the $15-20 million of cap room saved to strengthen the rest of the roster.
2015 Guard Richie incognito & Tackle Bryan Bulaga
2016 Tackle Mitchell Schwartz
2017 Tackle Andrew Whitworth
I don't believe we pursued any of those guys in F/A
hopefully this new guy Dave G can identify and pursue OL talent a lot better than J Reese
He seems to be an average starter, nothing special or flashy, but he is some Ravens fan's favorite player. The one thing I like about him is when Flacco took that huge hit against the Dolphins on TNF, Jensen was the first and really only player to run over to the Dolphins player and give him a shot, and he made it known that you don't hit his quarterback like that. Interesting player to watch this offseason.
2015 Guard Richie incognito & Tackle Bryan Bulaga
2016 Tackle Mitchell Schwartz
2017 Tackle Andrew Whitworth
I don't believe we pursued any of those guys in F/A
hopefully this new guy Dave G can identify and pursue OL talent a lot better than J Reese
Ironic that we wanted no part of Incognito after the Miami foolishness but we took a chance on other guy involved. Looking back I guess you can say they took a chance on the wrong guy
Class of 17 isn't doing so well.
So? We have about 26 now without cuts. Add a draft pick..move Flowers if possible to RG on a if you cant pan out here...goodbye deal Wheeler at OLT or ORT.
Norwell covers Wheeler or Flowers on the left..a Fa Right Tackle(easier to find) or draft one. Then on to the 19 draft looking for OL.
I’d rather have Norwell at 10-12 million then Pugh at that price
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Andrew Norwell fits this description but he is going to cost 10-12 million per season.
I’d rather have Norwell at 10-12 million then Pugh at that price
I completely agree but I doubt Pugh gets that. He will most likely sign for 8-9.
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Andrew Norwell fits this description but he is going to cost 10-12 million per season.
So? We have about 26 now without cuts. Add a draft pick..move Flowers if possible to RG on a if you cant pan out here...goodbye deal Wheeler at OLT or ORT.
Norwell covers Wheeler or Flowers on the left..a Fa Right Tackle(easier to find) or draft one. Then on to the 19 draft looking for OL.
I wasn’t suggesting that the Giants shouldn’t sign him I was just pointing out that he is going to be very expensive.
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Andrew Norwell fits this description but he is going to cost 10-12 million per season.
I’d rather have Norwell at 10-12 million then Pugh at that price
Pugh won’t get that kind of money. He’s been injured too much. I think about half that.
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Andrew Norwell fits this description but he is going to cost 10-12 million per season.
I’d rather have Norwell at 10-12 million then Pugh at that price
Pugh won’t get that kind of money. He’s been injured too much. I think about half that.
He played for $8M this past season. He'll have to swallow some humble pie to take less per year.
And a solid RB through FA.That would be a nice push for our offense
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In comment 13776592 Jay on the Island said:
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Andrew Norwell fits this description but he is going to cost 10-12 million per season.
So? We have about 26 now without cuts. Add a draft pick..move Flowers if possible to RG on a if you cant pan out here...goodbye deal Wheeler at OLT or ORT.
Norwell covers Wheeler or Flowers on the left..a Fa Right Tackle(easier to find) or draft one. Then on to the 19 draft looking for OL.
I wasn’t suggesting that the Giants shouldn’t sign him I was just pointing out that he is going to be very expensive.
Likely so. And in high demand I believe. But we need quality and quantity, as well as homegrown, and he might've the best on the list, and easiest to life with the Gettleman connection.
Both the offensive and defensive line should always have a good mix of youth, and veteran leadership.
We can bring in a guy like Norwell at Guard and/or Jensen at Center, along with maybe a Whitfield type signing at tackle - or some combination of a big ticket guy and an older stop gap, this offensive would be in much better shape next year along with one or two young guys in the draft - this offensive line will be on the right track again moving forward.
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doubt we're going to spend premium dollars like drunken sailors on ok talent.
Gettleman signed Matt Kalil to a 5-year $55M contract with $31M guaranteed last March and it's not like he was coming off of a career year. He also gave his former 3rd round pick, OG Trai Turner, a 4-year extension worth $45M. So he's not shy about shelling out the big bucks on OL talent that ain't exactly Joe Thomas and Larry Allen.
They ain't, but they're better players than what's on tap this offseason. Kalil, in particular, is a very good LT who just needs to get healthy.
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doubt we're going to spend premium dollars like drunken sailors on ok talent.
Gettleman signed Matt Kalil to a 5-year $55M contract with $31M guaranteed last March and it's not like he was coming off of a career year. He also gave his former 3rd round pick, OG Trai Turner, a 4-year extension worth $45M. So he's not shy about shelling out the big bucks on OL talent that ain't exactly Joe Thomas and Larry Allen.
They ain't, but they're better players than what's on tap this offseason. Kalil, in particular, is a very good LT who just needs to get healthy.
Perhaps DG gives Norwall the Trai treatment and brings him in.
They were poised to draft Solder, but his medicals need a look.
Perhaps DG gives Norwall the Trai treatment and brings him in.
They were poised to draft Solder, but his medicals need a look.
He'll be 33 in August but could be a good one or two year, short term option until they find an heir.
We have some cap space, not a lot.....we have a lot of players to replace on the roster.....and talk of Fluker, Wheeler, and Bisnowaty being starters, is, well, wishful thinking.....
What we will have is another patchwork OL, with guys not having experience playing together....it may function better than last year's line, or not.....just too many unknowns at this time....
We have some cap space, not a lot.....we have a lot of players to replace on the roster.....and talk of Fluker, Wheeler, and Bisnowaty being starters, is, well, wishful thinking.....
What we will have is another patchwork OL, with guys not having experience playing together....it may function better than last year's line, or not.....just too many unknowns at this time....
I don't think anyone is expecting an entire fix in one season. But it is entirely possible to turn this into a good unit next season.