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Not impressed with Borttles' game today.

Since1965 : 1/7/2018 4:18 pm
Maybe Jaks will be looking for a QB? Possible trade for Eli?
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he just won a playoff game  
micky : 1/7/2018 4:20 pm : link
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They just offered their first round pick this year  
superspynyg : 1/7/2018 4:20 pm : link
next year and Jalen Ramsey for Eli.
You are implying that someone  
GiantGolfer : 1/7/2018 4:21 pm : link
should be impressed by Bortles today? He’s stunk all year.
RE: You are implying that someone  
Diver_Down : 1/7/2018 4:26 pm : link
In comment 13776719 GiantGolfer said:
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should be impressed by Bortles today? He’s stunk all year.


Correction. He has stunk for all 4 years.
I had a grilled cheese for lunch  
BigBlue4You09 : 1/7/2018 4:27 pm : link
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That’s not a new idea  
jeff57 : 1/7/2018 4:27 pm : link
Buffalo also needs a QB. Taylor stinks.
But ,  
dancing blue bear : 1/7/2018 4:30 pm : link
he was the third overall pick. He will be a franchise QB/ all pro. For 15 years. They should be grateful they are not in the QB pergatory.
RE: But ,  
Britt in VA : 1/7/2018 4:33 pm : link
In comment 13776744 dancing blue bear said:
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he was the third overall pick. He will be a franchise QB/ all pro. For 15 years. They should be grateful they are not in the QB pergatory.


+1
He Was Flat Out Awful,  
clatterbuck : 1/7/2018 4:35 pm : link
Coughlin has got to be thinking he needs a QB -- uh oh.
he won the game for them today  
bc4life : 1/7/2018 4:39 pm : link
with his legs - but TC will clearly be looking for an upgrade
Cousins might be coming out as a FA  
spike : 1/7/2018 4:40 pm : link
They should pony up the money
He is wildly inconsistent  
HomerJones45 : 1/7/2018 4:41 pm : link
But 4000 yards of offense and 23 td is nothing to sneeze at with Jax running the ball like they can.
.......  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 1/7/2018 4:41 pm : link
They'd be better off going after Cousins or Keenum. Probably less expensive and not having to give up a pick
he was not great but he is not asked to be  
hitdog42 : 1/7/2018 4:49 pm : link
An upgrade would clearly be helpful for them... but in a defensive game... not turning it over and using his legs were a net positive for the team.

hating on bortles today makes little/no sense.
It is also his first playoff game...
Like I said on the game thread,  
section125 : 1/7/2018 4:57 pm : link
he is Tim Tebow.....
I don't see...  
jnoble : 1/7/2018 4:57 pm : link
...him and his Jags beating Pittsburgh. No way no how, not if he's going to play chuck and duck all afternoon
RE: RE: But ,  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/7/2018 5:00 pm : link
In comment 13776756 Britt in VA said:
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In comment 13776744 dancing blue bear said:


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he was the third overall pick. He will be a franchise QB/ all pro. For 15 years. They should be grateful they are not in the QB pergatory.



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I hope they do take a QB....
Britt in VA : 12/24/2017 4:21 pm : link
I hope that they have conviction for a guy strong enough to do that.

You don't get to pick this high that often, and if they think that one of these guys is "that" guy, then I'm all for it.

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RE: They're drafting a QB.
Britt in VA : 12/17/2017 8:56 pm : link
In comment 13745212 Dave in Hoboken said:
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Agreed. And he can sit for a year or two and learn from the best.

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RE: RE: People have made up their minds, will not listen to reason,
Britt in VA : 12/28/2017 11:17 am : link
In comment 13757176 BigBlueShock said:
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In comment 13757161 Britt in VA said:


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And refuse to budge. And that's fine, but I guess it's not worth discussing anymore.

There are basically two sides:

1. It's Eli
2. It's a total team failure

All we can do is watch it play out.


It’s funny that you say that people refuse to budge. Because YOU absolutely fit into that same category.

And your number 1 is a perfect example. No matter how many times people say “Eli is NOT the only problem, but he’s not the solution either”, you continuously claim that anyone that dare criticize Eli’s play is blaming all of the teams problems on him. Why can’t it be both? I have not once seen anyone on this board say that Eli is the only problem, yet you keep saying that people feel that way.

You’re right, you’ve made your mind up and won’t listen to reason. Just keep making things up and putting words into people’s mouths.


Haven't I said a million times that I'm fine with drafting a QB with our first pick?

So how am I not acknowledging the moving on?


But then there's this gem, which is my favorite:
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You can talk about it on here until your fingers fall off....
Britt in VA : 11/6/2017 11:48 am : link
Eli is not getting benched this season, barring injury. Book it.
RE: he just won a playoff game  
Route 9 : 1/7/2018 5:04 pm : link
In comment 13776717 micky said:
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10 points! -Jimmy Googs
He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
djstat : 1/7/2018 5:06 pm : link
Then Eli does. Just saying...
RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
Route 9 : 1/7/2018 5:08 pm : link
In comment 13776836 djstat said:
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Then Eli does. Just saying...


And that's likely the only one he's going to get lol
RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
Diver_Down : 1/7/2018 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13776836 djstat said:
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Then Eli does. Just saying...


He is the GOAT. Blake has never lost a playoff game. No other player in the history of the NFL can claim they have won 100% of their playoff games.


See how easy it is?
If he sucks this bad next week, the Eli to Jags rumors  
ZogZerg : 1/7/2018 5:14 pm : link
will pick up steam.
Dude, you are obsessed with me....  
Britt in VA : 1/7/2018 5:18 pm : link
I'm flattered.

There are no guarantees at the top of the draft, just because I said I'm fine with them taking a chance while they have it if there's a guy there that they have conviction for doesn't mean that there isn't a risk to bust.

There is a very high one, and I've been posting non stop about the dangers of spread QB's etc... while concurrently saying all that.

And as far as Eli getting benched....  
Britt in VA : 1/7/2018 5:19 pm : link
yeah, that worked out well. Worth it.
RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
Dave in Hoboken : 1/7/2018 5:20 pm : link
In comment 13776836 djstat said:
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Then Eli does. Just saying...


That's depressing. If the Giants take a QB at 2, which is looking more and more likely, you can't say they haven't tried these last 6 years or so.
I've also said I wanted Barkley....  
Britt in VA : 1/7/2018 5:22 pm : link
so I'm not sure what all those posts that you've reposted have proven.

That I said I'd be fine with them taking a QB? Okay. Guilty... I guess?

Tomorrow you'll be calling me an Eli lover that wants him to play until he's 50 and ignoring all of those posts you just reposted.
Bortles was playing well  
RetroJint : 1/7/2018 5:25 pm : link
until the last 2 games when he threw 5 interceptions. So they basically played to win 10-3 today. Caught a huge break on the first & goal fade to Benjamin against the game’s best player. Pitts won’t let Ben throw 4 picks In the first half next week. Jacksonville will have to open it up some and that probably won’t go well.

So here’s to hoping that Coach gives the Giants a #3 for Eli. That would would out for all parties. TC: time to take a sentimental journey .
I love the "HAVE to draft a QB" crowd  
dancing blue bear : 1/7/2018 5:27 pm : link
They don't even care which one.

If there is a great prospect worthy of #2 overall, I am all for it. I don't see it, but I don't make that decision.

Bortles is the classic example of overdrafting a QB. Someone like Bortles is more likely to lead you to 5 years of mediocrity then having Cade Mcknown.

They are actually debating whether or not to pay him 18+ million next year. It's a debate. But Eli for 16 is gonna sink the ship.
Oh, and someone is gonna pay Capt. $100 million +  
dancing blue bear : 1/7/2018 5:28 pm : link
I pity the fool
Bortles sucks.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 1/7/2018 5:30 pm : link
That's what I came away with today.
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christian : 1/7/2018 5:38 pm : link
Bortles had an unimpressive game today, and a remarkably up and down first four years. But don't forget Eli Manning wasn't burning the league down at that stage in his career.
RE: I had a grilled cheese for lunch  
AcidTest : 1/7/2018 5:42 pm : link
In comment 13776736 BigBlue4You09 said:
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What kind of cheese?
Bortles did what he had to do to win.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/7/2018 5:44 pm : link
The first 28 minutes were horrible. After that, I thought he played smart - didn't force things, made plays with his feet, and didn't hurt his team.

Jeff Hostetler looked similar, after taking over for Simms at the end of the regular season in 1990. So you never know.
RE: And as far as Eli getting benched....  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/7/2018 5:45 pm : link
In comment 13776879 Britt in VA said:
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yeah, that worked out well. Worth it.

RE: Dude, you are obsessed with me....  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/7/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13776875 Britt in VA said:
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I'm flattered.

There are no guarantees at the top of the draft, just because I said I'm fine with them taking a chance while they have it if there's a guy there that they have conviction for doesn't mean that there isn't a risk to bust.

There is a very high one, and I've been posting non stop about the dangers of spread QB's etc... while concurrently saying all that.

I'm not obsessed with you; I just like to point out how you talk out of both sides of your mouth to try to pretend like you're not the second coming of dep.
Yeah he did what he had to do  
Route 9 : 1/7/2018 5:47 pm : link
Score > 3 points
RE: I love the  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/7/2018 5:47 pm : link
In comment 13776896 dancing blue bear said:
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They don't even care which one.

If there is a great prospect worthy of #2 overall, I am all for it. I don't see it, but I don't make that decision.

Bortles is the classic example of overdrafting a QB. Someone like Bortles is more likely to lead you to 5 years of mediocrity then having Cade Mcknown.

They are actually debating whether or not to pay him 18+ million next year. It's a debate. But Eli for 16 is gonna sink the ship.

Are you mixing up Cade McNown with Josh McCown again?
He didn't do much agsin  
KWALL2 : 1/7/2018 5:53 pm : link
50% completion. 87 yards. Bills CB dropped an INT too.

Jax will look to improve that position next year.

Somebody wrote: "he just won a playoff game".

He didn't win it. Any QB and that team wins. He had very little to do with it.
RE: he was not great but he is not asked to be  
WillVAB : 1/7/2018 5:54 pm : link
In comment 13776795 hitdog42 said:
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An upgrade would clearly be helpful for them... but in a defensive game... not turning it over and using his legs were a net positive for the team.

hating on bortles today makes little/no sense.
It is also his first playoff game...


Bortles threw for 80 yards, had 2 near picks, and the Jags scored 10 points.
RE: And as far as Eli getting benched....  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/7/2018 5:59 pm : link
In comment 13776879 Britt in VA said:
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yeah, that worked out well. Worth it.


It did work out well. The next coach if Eli were to stay, is not going to have to deal with being the person that benched Eli. So there won't be as much of a commotion whenever that day comes, or for whoever he is playing for at that time.
RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
micky : 1/7/2018 6:07 pm : link
In comment 13776836 djstat said:
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Then Eli does. Just saying...


this..in last 6 years to boot
RE: RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
micky : 1/7/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13776849 Diver_Down said:
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Then Eli does. Just saying...



He is the GOAT. Blake has never lost a playoff game. No other player in the history of the NFL can claim they have won 100% of their playoff games.


See how easy it is?


Marcus Mariota
Blake bortles has as more playoff wins  
UConn4523 : 1/7/2018 6:13 pm : link
than anyone with 0, who cares. Winning a playoff game while playing terribly is credit to the rest of the roster. There is no way Coughlin doesn’t take a strong look at upgrading QB, whether it be the draft or a trade.
RE: And as far as Eli getting benched....  
BigBlueShock : 1/7/2018 6:19 pm : link
In comment 13776879 Britt in VA said:
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yeah, that worked out well. Worth it.

Was there really a noticeable difference in the offense in the Game Eli was benched? What do you mean “that worked out well”? Are you suggesting that Geno was an epic failure and they had to scramble to make amends with Eli? Or do you think maybe it had more to do with the fans and media having an absolute meltdown?
Coughlin doesn't look for a QB this offseason.  
Default : 1/7/2018 6:30 pm : link
But the actual GM may.
RE: RE: RE: He has more playoff wins in the last 4 years  
Diver_Down : 1/7/2018 6:58 pm : link
In comment 13776976 micky said:
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In comment 13776849 Diver_Down said:


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In comment 13776836 djstat said:


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Then Eli does. Just saying...



He is the GOAT. Blake has never lost a playoff game. No other player in the history of the NFL can claim they have won 100% of their playoff games.


See how easy it is?



Marcus Mariota


Dammit. Of all people, Micky, you are right. You are never right.
Some of you guys  
allstarjim : 1/7/2018 7:17 pm : link
Will be eating a ton of crow when Bortles is hosting that Lombardi.
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arcarsenal : 1/7/2018 7:35 pm : link
The title presupposes that people actually were impressed - I'm not sure anyone was particularly impressed.

But he did win the game, and you certainly can't take that part away.
RE: ...  
djm : 1/7/2018 7:38 pm : link
In comment 13776917 christian said:
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Bortles had an unimpressive game today, and a remarkably up and down first four years. But don't forget Eli Manning wasn't burning the league down at that stage in his career.


Eli showed he can beat teams by passing and passing deep. Bortles can't get the ball downfield consistently. Concerning.
Forecast calls for a high of 20° and a low of 8° Sunday in PIT.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/7/2018 8:29 pm : link
Subject to change, obviously.

The good news is that JAX does not rely on the passing game to the same extent as most teams. The bad news is that Tomlin can jam the box and dare Bortles to throw deep in those conditions.
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