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NFT: What is your opinion of the Rocky movies?

Route 9 : 1/7/2018 10:23 pm
I always watch 1-6 (and Creed) a bit after Christmas and finish them up before the new year begins. It seems as if a lot of people my age (30, gonna be 31) took a liking to those movies. I guess it's because they were the old classics from "the old days" (70s 80s, lol).

The one thing I cannot do is watch the fights at the end for reason. What do you think of the series? Corny? Way too Philly for you? The main thing I like about the movies is the characters. I liked Rocky, Adrian, Apollo and of course Paulie is the one close jerk off friend (brother in law). I always thought IV was my favorite then I grew older and it got weird to me. SO many montages! Spoilers!

Which one is your favorite? Least?
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RE: What I learned about boxing from Rocky  
Matt M. : 1/8/2018 1:45 pm : link
In comment 13777859 jnoble said:
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Its legal and not an immediate disqualification to toss your opponent WWE style into the corner to continue wailing on him. The ref will also not stop the fight even though one fighter is clearly being defeated and possibly about to die. Also punches land with the sound of someone dropping a bag of wet cement and nobody blocks or ducks many punches...in fact, getting one haymaker after another directly to the face will only make one mad and more determined to win
I tink in Rocky IV Rocky gets knocked down and bounces right back up and the ref never gives him a count. It was either III or IV.
the only one  
Enzo : 1/8/2018 1:46 pm : link
that's truly bad is V.
Rocky - classic.
Rocky II - painfully slow at times but the final training montage/fight saves it.
Rocky III - from Thunderlips to Clubber - just a fantastically entertaining movie.
Rocky IV - Hearts on Fire was my ringtone for years. It's basically 4-5 music videos pasted together to make a movie, but I get sucked in every time.
Rocky Balboa - Not great but much better than it had any right to be.
Creed - I thought this was overrated, but when the music kicks in for the last scene I got chills.
I was entertained by all of them  
pjcas18 : 1/8/2018 1:55 pm : link
I think Rocky V was the worst (if that's the one with Tommy Morrison). Rocky I and II my favorites like most people.

but I find the story of Sylvester Stallone trying to get Rocky made more inspirational than Chuck Wepner's real story (though Stallone denies Wepner provided any inspiration to the Rocky movies).

If you haven't researched that at all you should.
RE: I was entertained by all of them  
Matt M. : 1/8/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13778383 pjcas18 said:
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I think Rocky V was the worst (if that's the one with Tommy Morrison). Rocky I and II my favorites like most people.

but I find the story of Sylvester Stallone trying to get Rocky made more inspirational than Chuck Wepner's real story (though Stallone denies Wepner provided any inspiration to the Rocky movies).

If you haven't researched that at all you should.
You are right about Stallone. He nearly starved holding out to also star in the film. He actually happens to be an intelligent guy whose face was partially paralyzed as a little kid. that accounts for his speech and the snarl.
RE: I was entertained by all of them  
Cam in MO : 1/8/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13778383 pjcas18 said:
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I think Rocky V was the worst (if that's the one with Tommy Morrison). Rocky I and II my favorites like most people.

but I find the story of Sylvester Stallone trying to get Rocky made more inspirational than Chuck Wepner's real story (though Stallone denies Wepner provided any inspiration to the Rocky movies).

If you haven't researched that at all you should.


He only started denying it when Wepner started asking for money- which, btw he eventually got after a long legal battle. It was early interviews with Stallone acknowledging Chuck as the inspiration that won it for him, if I'm not mistaken.
they  
Les in TO : 1/8/2018 2:53 pm : link
are classic sports movies - except for V which was an abomination. Don't get the hate for IV, that may be the best of the bunch.
RE: they  
Matt M. : 1/8/2018 2:56 pm : link
In comment 13778469 Les in TO said:
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are classic sports movies - except for V which was an abomination. Don't get the hate for IV, that may be the best of the bunch.
IV is utterly ridiculous and laughable with stuff like the entire Soviet crowd rooting for Rocky, but it is still such an enjoyable movie. The montage while he's driving and then the training montage are classics. As mentioned, the soundtrack for this is a classic. Sure, it's stupid, but how an you not love it?
Here's my issue with Rocky IV  
B in ALB : 1/8/2018 3:10 pm : link
You have to think about it in the context of the Cold War and the time that it was released. I remember being a kid and watching it in the theater and it was awesome! Such a pro-American story, taking it to the Russians, they cheat, killed an American hero, James Brown, American heart, etc.

Total dreck but a fun movie nonetheless.
Rocky IV  
Enzo : 1/8/2018 3:16 pm : link
might have 15 lines of dialogue. There's barely a script there. But it's still awesome.
IV is so bad, it's good  
Modus Operandi : 1/8/2018 3:20 pm : link
Beginning with the opening sequence. Two gloves in flag colors of the US and USSR. Colliding and then exploding. Imagine that meeting where it was pitched.

How about Rocky singlehandedly bringing down communism? In an hour and a half.

How about that laughable speech at the end. You can change, I can change, we all can change. Couldn't even bother to get the translation correct. So terrible, it's good.
RE: IV is so bad, it's good  
Matt M. : 1/8/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13778515 Modus Operandi said:
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Beginning with the opening sequence. Two gloves in flag colors of the US and USSR. Colliding and then exploding. Imagine that meeting where it was pitched.

How about Rocky singlehandedly bringing down communism? In an hour and a half.

How about that laughable speech at the end. You can change, I can change, we all can change. Couldn't even bother to get the translation correct. So terrible, it's good.
Hoe exactly does "youse" translate? Is that considered the familiar you (pl.)?
RE: RE: IV is so bad, it's good  
Modus Operandi : 1/8/2018 3:31 pm : link
In comment 13778518 Matt M. said:
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Beginning with the opening sequence. Two gloves in flag colors of the US and USSR. Colliding and then exploding. Imagine that meeting where it was pitched.

How about Rocky singlehandedly bringing down communism? In an hour and a half.

How about that laughable speech at the end. You can change, I can change, we all can change. Couldn't even bother to get the translation correct. So terrible, it's good.

Hoe exactly does "youse" translate? Is that considered the familiar you (pl.)?


I forgot the best part. During the training montage when Rocky outsmarted the KGB agents who are following him in the limo by ducking into the woods (?)

If only Hitler's troops had known of this maneuver during Operation Barbarossa, Europe might look very differently today.

RE: The first is a great movie. an all time great sports movie IMO.  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/8/2018 4:07 pm : link
In comment 13777483 j_rud said:
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The second was very good. After that they were entertaining but a different kind of movie. It's almost like Rocky became an action hero type character.

Interesting (to me) side note: the part of Creed where Rocky is in the hospital was filmed in the hospital I work at, Crozer Chester Medical Center. My office is literally in the hallway that appears on film.


My wife was born in Crozer.
To me, V isn't that much worse than II, III and IV.  
Big Blue Blogger : 1/8/2018 4:48 pm : link
It's just terrible in a different way.
RE: Here's my issue with Rocky IV  
ron mexico : 1/8/2018 4:51 pm : link
In comment 13778492 B in ALB said:
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You have to think about it in the context of the Cold War and the time that it was released. I remember being a kid and watching it in the theater and it was awesome! Such a pro-American story, taking it to the Russians, they cheat, killed an American hero, James Brown, American heart, etc.

Total dreck but a fun movie nonetheless.


You forgot about Thunderlips
RE: RE: Here's my issue with Rocky IV  
Matt M. : 1/8/2018 4:52 pm : link
In comment 13778669 ron mexico said:
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You have to think about it in the context of the Cold War and the time that it was released. I remember being a kid and watching it in the theater and it was awesome! Such a pro-American story, taking it to the Russians, they cheat, killed an American hero, James Brown, American heart, etc.

Total dreck but a fun movie nonetheless.



You forgot about Thunderlips
That's Rocky III, not IV.
RE: RE: RE: Here's my issue with Rocky IV  
ron mexico : 1/8/2018 5:06 pm : link
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You have to think about it in the context of the Cold War and the time that it was released. I remember being a kid and watching it in the theater and it was awesome! Such a pro-American story, taking it to the Russians, they cheat, killed an American hero, James Brown, American heart, etc.

Total dreck but a fun movie nonetheless.



You forgot about Thunderlips

That's Rocky III, not IV.


My bad.
Oh man, my buddies would kill me if they saw this.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Here's my issue with Rocky IV  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 1/8/2018 5:37 pm : link
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You have to think about it in the context of the Cold War and the time that it was released. I remember being a kid and watching it in the theater and it was awesome! Such a pro-American story, taking it to the Russians, they cheat, killed an American hero, James Brown, American heart, etc.

Total dreck but a fun movie nonetheless.



You forgot about Thunderlips

That's Rocky III, not IV.



My bad.
Oh man, my buddies would kill me if they saw this.


Best part about Rocky IV is James Brown singing “Living in America” as Apollo enters the ring.
Fuck Russia  
Route 9 : 1/8/2018 7:42 pm : link
Go USA!!
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