complete yet. Probably hard to commit until they complete.
The Giants may want to carry out the process, however it is not out of the realm of possibility to hire someone you are impressed by... Tomlin was so impressive the Steelers canceled their final interviews and hired him. Of course, that was in round 2 of the interview process.
RE: If they found their guy, they cancel the interview
I'm still partial to McDaniels, as I'm not sure what kind of coach Wilks is going to be... his resume isn't that long. He is the epitome of the lack of experience the Giants ownership said they DIDN'T want... which to me is confusing. Maybe Mara put his foot in his mouth.
People seem to respect Wilks, but did people not respect McAdoo prior to his hire?
I'm also not in love with the types of zone dominant D's that he runs too, it feels like it will bring the Giants back to the days of Tim Lewis and Fewell's cover 3... I have nightmares of that bend don't break crap. I like when I hear he is aggressive, but to me Wilks is still a humungous question mark.
this isn't a free agent player. this is a head coach search and this was Wilks first interview with the giants. frankly it would have been a little awkward to hand him the keys to the team today without having had time for the front office folks to digest the interview. i'm not reading much into it.
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complete yet. Probably hard to commit until they complete.
Had not considered that. Good observation
They would never risk losing out on a potential HC they covet to complete the interview slate...
You don't know how they left it with Wilks.Things can be said that implied by both sides without finalizing. They may have said "call us before you make a decision". He could have responded "yes I will" Could be Wilks needed leverage too for his contract. Too many things in play to think Wilks may not be the guy or that Wilks doesn't want the job. Wait and see. I've heard Studesville interviewing today also heard tommorow. I believe it's tomorrow. This is a big decision for Giants after Macadoo fiasco. Got to get it right.
but it's probably best for both sides to carry on with the interview process for now. Who knows, as far as Wilks is concerned, maybe Arizona or another team will offer him something surprising. And for the Giants, maybe someone better will shake loose sometime soon. We'll see.
been offered a job yet? Yes, I have heard that McD is likely going to Indy and that Patriia to Detroit is a favorite and also that they cant be OFFERED a gig until the Pats are done playing.
they love him so much that no interview needed. Or they're trolling the Eagles - "we don't need to schedule him during the bye - he will be available Monday".
him to sign? Have the Giants ever signed a HC during the interview?
Also, have the Giants ever signed a coach before a second round of interviews? Hard to remember, since the team hasn't made a practice of hiring new coaches in awhile.
they love him so much that no interview needed. Or they're trolling the Eagles - "we don't need to schedule him during the bye - he will be available Monday".
forget that dude. want him nowhere near this team. We have enough guys that get spun up on ridiculous shit and lose focus on their responsibilities. He will have them spun up like a bunch of jackasses.
loved Wilks, they could've announced him as the next head coach before he ever left the building, unlike Shurmur and that NE guys.
I think this is somewhat telling that they weren't blown away by Wilks and are still holding out for one of the other guys still in the playoffs.
I don't think it's telling at all. We have no idea of the motivations. For all we know the Giants want to do a second round of interviews for a number of candidates.
Perhaps the interview didn't go well, perhaps it went very well. Perhaps the Giants brain trust wants a night to deliberate. We have no idea.
The "if he was the guy the Giants would not have let him get on the plane line" is a media construct.
They told him that for him to get this coaching job that Eli would have to be next year's starter...That's why he might go to "greener" pasture.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
and I have interest from multiple teams, I'd do ALL my interviews before deciding. Why shouldn't he? It's called due diligence, and I'd be sort of concerned if Wilks didn't do his.
This isn't the same as a FA player who's gonna sign before he leaves the building.
Point: That he left the building doesn't mean anything. Providing the Giants liked what he said and want him (and vice versa), he could still end up being the guy.
I'd say don't overreact, but that's pointless at BBI.
I think the Giants are doing their due diligence and want
to make this a thorough process this time. Theyll then deliberate and decide who is best for this team. If the Giants thought it was a good interview, Im sure they probably told Wilks to let them know if he receives an offer.
They told him that for him to get this coaching job that Eli would have to be next year's starter...That's why he might go to "greener" pasture.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
I would be surprised if the question was posed that way. I could see it being "how do you feel about Eli Manning as a starting QB" or "do you think Eli can continue to start in this league." I doubt the Giants would present it as an ultimatum. You want the candidate to answer freely, not with an idea that you are looking for a certain answer.
There is a concern that he might not be well suited
They told him that for him to get this coaching job that Eli would have to be next year's starter...That's why he might go to "greener" pasture.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
I would be surprised if the question was posed that way. I could see it being "how do you feel about Eli Manning as a starting QB" or "do you think Eli can continue to start in this league." I doubt the Giants would present it as an ultimatum. You want the candidate to answer freely, not with an idea that you are looking for a certain answer.
So he would reject a job with a future HoF QB, a young developmental QB in the building, and the likelihood of drafting one of the hotshot college QBs at #2 for a team (AZ) with Connor Cook at QB and without a clear path to getting a franchise-type QB via draft or free agency?
been offered a job yet? Yes, I have heard that McD is likely going to Indy and that Patriia to Detroit is a favorite and also that they cant be OFFERED a gig until the Pats are done playing.
Seriously some of you need to get a grip.
Yes, the Bears hired Matt Nagy yesterday.
The interview process will not be complete until Tisch partipates.
Want a feel good story that would be connected to Wilks. The Giants need MORE than a feel good story. If Wilks has the goods he will be hired. If they think he does not have enough experience then he wont be. The Giants still have McAdoo on payroll and they don't want three head coaches on payroll. No matter who they hire there is no guarantee. They may feel that a more experienced coach reduces the risk. We will see.
RE: There is a concern that he might not be well suited
Hard to imagine anyone worse at it than McAdoo was. And if this organization is disqualifying candidates because of media relations concerns instead of whether they can lead the team and win games, then the Giants have truly lost their way. If Wilks is the best guy to command the locker room, be the CEO, and win games, then you hire him.
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Steve Wilks interviewed with the Giants today and will be heading on to Arizona for his next interview, I'm told.
No to both Amy and Chuck
Count me as surprised they are letting Wilks leave town. I assumed with Gettleman's backing, ownership would be high on him.
Sounds like they aren't sold on Wilks either...
Had not considered that. Good observation
The Giants may want to carry out the process, however it is not out of the realm of possibility to hire someone you are impressed by... Tomlin was so impressive the Steelers canceled their final interviews and hired him. Of course, that was in round 2 of the interview process.
Sounds like they aren't sold on Wilks either...
Crazy thought, and I don't really believe it, but what if Studesville is the guy.
Again, I don't believe it.
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complete yet. Probably hard to commit until they complete.
Had not considered that. Good observation
They would never risk losing out on a potential HC they covet to complete the interview slate...
People seem to respect Wilks, but did people not respect McAdoo prior to his hire?
I'm also not in love with the types of zone dominant D's that he runs too, it feels like it will bring the Giants back to the days of Tim Lewis and Fewell's cover 3... I have nightmares of that bend don't break crap. I like when I hear he is aggressive, but to me Wilks is still a humungous question mark.
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complete yet. Probably hard to commit until they complete.
Had not considered that. Good observation
They would never risk losing out on a potential HC they covet to complete the interview slate...
You don't know how they left it with Wilks.Things can be said that implied by both sides without finalizing. They may have said "call us before you make a decision". He could have responded "yes I will" Could be Wilks needed leverage too for his contract. Too many things in play to think Wilks may not be the guy or that Wilks doesn't want the job. Wait and see. I've heard Studesville interviewing today also heard tommorow. I believe it's tomorrow. This is a big decision for Giants after Macadoo fiasco. Got to get it right.
Not saying he still won t be
I think not...........
I believe it common for a coach to do interviews with multiple teams.
Seriously some of you need to get a grip.
I think Wilks gets the Az job.
I think this is somewhat telling that they weren't blown away by Wilks and are still holding out for one of the other guys still in the playoffs.
Also, have the Giants ever signed a coach before a second round of interviews? Hard to remember, since the team hasn't made a practice of hiring new coaches in awhile.
forget that dude. want him nowhere near this team. We have enough guys that get spun up on ridiculous shit and lose focus on their responsibilities. He will have them spun up like a bunch of jackasses.
I think this is somewhat telling that they weren't blown away by Wilks and are still holding out for one of the other guys still in the playoffs.
I don't think it's telling at all. We have no idea of the motivations. For all we know the Giants want to do a second round of interviews for a number of candidates.
Perhaps the interview didn't go well, perhaps it went very well. Perhaps the Giants brain trust wants a night to deliberate. We have no idea.
The "if he was the guy the Giants would not have let him get on the plane line" is a media construct.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
This isn't the same as a FA player who's gonna sign before he leaves the building.
Point: That he left the building doesn't mean anything. Providing the Giants liked what he said and want him (and vice versa), he could still end up being the guy.
I'd say don't overreact, but that's pointless at BBI.
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They told him that for him to get this coaching job that Eli would have to be next year's starter...That's why he might go to "greener" pasture.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
I would be surprised if the question was posed that way. I could see it being "how do you feel about Eli Manning as a starting QB" or "do you think Eli can continue to start in this league." I doubt the Giants would present it as an ultimatum. You want the candidate to answer freely, not with an idea that you are looking for a certain answer.
Oh, please...
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They told him that for him to get this coaching job that Eli would have to be next year's starter...That's why he might go to "greener" pasture.
I have this concern as well. NYG management has to see that Eli's tank is definitively on E. They need to turn the page or they will be back in this spot next year. I am not blaming him entirely for 3-13 but he gets his fair share. Let's forget the 2 SB runs and use our eyes/brains. He's toast.
I would be surprised if the question was posed that way. I could see it being "how do you feel about Eli Manning as a starting QB" or "do you think Eli can continue to start in this league." I doubt the Giants would present it as an ultimatum. You want the candidate to answer freely, not with an idea that you are looking for a certain answer.
So he would reject a job with a future HoF QB, a young developmental QB in the building, and the likelihood of drafting one of the hotshot college QBs at #2 for a team (AZ) with Connor Cook at QB and without a clear path to getting a franchise-type QB via draft or free agency?
Seriously some of you need to get a grip.
Yes, the Bears hired Matt Nagy yesterday.
Says who...that sounds like pure conjecture.
Hard to imagine anyone worse at it than McAdoo was. And if this organization is disqualifying candidates because of media relations concerns instead of whether they can lead the team and win games, then the Giants have truly lost their way. If Wilks is the best guy to command the locker room, be the CEO, and win games, then you hire him.