“. In Detroit, I hear Pats defensive coordinator Matt Patricia is the choice over Houston’s defensive boss, Mike Vrabel—but Patricia favors the Giants. If the Giants give the nod to Patricia, Detroit could be Vrabel’s job. … New Chicago coach Matt Nagy got hot at the end of the season, and Colts GM Chris Ballard—the former Chiefs director of player personnel who knew Nagy well—also was smitten with him. … Indy would seem a good fit for Pats offensive coordinator Josh McDaniels. … Players love Carolina defensive coordinator Steve Wilks, who interviewed with the Giants on Tuesday, and he could be the calming guy to fix a divided and mercenary New York team. Plus, he wouldn’t balk at GM Dave Gettleman picking the team’s long-term quarterback. … Arizona is wide open. Vikings offensive coordinator Pat Shurmur could be in play there, or with the Giants...”
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Was it because he wouldn't pay the $15 for early bird checkin?
Maybe he’s a tisch selection
Another slow news day for Peter King...useless
NYG has a rich history, cornerstone franchise with championship expectations. Aging QB who is making a ton of money, superstar WR going into last year of deal who is volital, bad OL, divided defense and a team with no leadership.
I would say the ownership might be better in NYG.
Detroit might be the better spot. Just sayin.
There's no other explanation. If he was their #1 choice and killed the interview, he's hired yesterday. They couldn't risk losing him to another team.
Things are getting interesting, and I have a weird feeling that Patricia could be the guy.
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anyone with a 3rd grade understanding of the NFL could speculate that Patricia favors the NYG over DET.
Um, yeah, except that's not what is says. Is says he's reporting what he heard, which is not the same as speculating.
PLus, with the GM situation in Detroit it was widely believed MP was an almost lock there and would want to go there. So, not as obvious that he would want to choose NY over DET.
I love the Giants and have for over 45 years (yikes) but some of you need to realize that this team and organization is the beacon for all. We have won two SB's since the 2000's began but we missed the playoffs:
2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017.. Ummm, we have missed the playoffs 10 times. If you count the Interim Coach this will be our 4th HC in the last 3 years..
We have a locker room accused of quitting and being filled with malcontents. We have a superstar who is also a headache, an aging QB on the decline but with the love of the fans now because of the jackass previous HC, we have no Oline, over paid DE's, no LB'ers, 2 WR's (and 1 is still hit or miss), nothing really to hang your hat on at RB yet).... Please, tell me why it is obvious that someone would want this job over others...
What really can't be argued is that the New York Giants HC job would be on a higher level than the Lions HC job from just about every candidate alive.
All of these names are risky, to be honest. All we know is that they have been solid coordinators. Some have been head coaches - with poor records.
Read Pat Leonard's article. They can't make an (official) offer until the coach is out of the playoffs.
The goodell shirt thing is a deterrent for some but to me it shows he is sticking up for his guys and isn’t afraid to be himself. We had a guy like that named Parcells. To me, I bet that brought him closer to the locker room and people in the Pats organization as he wasn’t affraid to express what others thought but nobody wanted to say. That’s a positive to me even if you could argue it was in poor taste — to who? Corporate America? We would all high five Gilbride if he wore that shirt if he NFL came after the Giants. Thats being real not like phony McAdoo trying to pretend to be Pat Riley mafiosa version.
I like it Giants... If it’s not BB himself I like one of the NE guys and the more I think about it the closer Patricia seems to BB than McDaniels or any one else for that matter.
I hope the Pats lose Sunday.
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which I don't disagree with, if Patricia is the guy, why hasn't an offer been made by now, particularly after interviewing Wilks and satisfying the RR?
Read Pat Leonard's article. They can't make an (official) offer until the coach is out of the playoffs.
Thanks, yeah, just read it. But there could still be an unofficial understanding as he also mentioned, that would probably leak.
I want a guy who will be a good overall head coach regardless of their forte.
No, the rest are being held in Beez's dungeon basement.
Well, yes. But Shurmur, Patricia, and McDaniels still have games to coach. Wilks did not.
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anyone with a 3rd grade understanding of the NFL could speculate that Patricia favors the NYG over DET.
Um, yeah, except that's not what is says. Is says he's reporting what he heard, which is not the same as speculating.
PLus, with the GM situation in Detroit it was widely believed MP was an almost lock there and would want to go there. So, not as obvious that he would want to choose NY over DET.
I love the Giants and have for over 45 years (yikes) but some of you need to realize that this team and organization is the beacon for all. We have won two SB's since the 2000's began but we missed the playoffs:
2001, 2003, 2004, 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017.. Ummm, we have missed the playoffs 10 times. If you count the Interim Coach this will be our 4th HC in the last 3 years..
We have a locker room accused of quitting and being filled with malcontents. We have a superstar who is also a headache, an aging QB on the decline but with the love of the fans now because of the jackass previous HC, we have no Oline, over paid DE's, no LB'ers, 2 WR's (and 1 is still hit or miss), nothing really to hang your hat on at RB yet).... Please, tell me why it is obvious that someone would want this job over others...
Because you can tear it down and build it in your image as your own. You have a solid talent finder in DG, and an Owner that will do his best to stay out of the football side of the business.
T's and C's can you say this in English please?
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.
The deal is supposedly nearly done. Finalizing a few terms and conditions.
T's and C's can you say this in English please?
You realize they aren't allowed to do that? Maybe its a wink wink handshake deal, but they can't sign him or even verbally agree until Pats season is over.
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They are negotiating the contract Ts and Cs presently.
You realize they aren't allowed to do that? Maybe its a wink wink handshake deal, but they can't sign him or even verbally agree until Pats season is over.
They can certainly get a contract in place, that just needs to be signed.
NYG has a rich history, cornerstone franchise with championship expectations. Aging QB who is making a ton of money, superstar WR going into last year of deal who is volital, bad OL, divided defense and a team with no leadership.
I would say the ownership might be better in NYG.
Detroit might be the better spot. Just sayin.
Way too much thought process figuring out which situation is better. Unless a franchise has a ridiculously attractive appeal to a HC, more often than not we're just splitting hairs. You're sitting here balancing the WRs on both Det and NYG...splitting hairs is being kind. This is the NYG franchise. IF a HC doesn't hate this area he's going to want to come to the Giants. Det will lose this battle more often than not and "the young MLB" on Detroit won't be a factor at all here. Det isn't a bad situation, it's just not the NY Giants. And you are discounting this roster. Many people are. This team can win next season.
Huh? Is this you saying this? Cuz I've read Leonard's article several times and NOWHERE int here does he report anything about a contract being done or even worked on.
Patricia is a lot like Belichick, he keeps his cards close to his chest.
There's no other explanation. If he was their #1 choice and killed the interview, he's hired yesterday. They couldn't risk losing him to another team.
There are several good explanations in the pinned Wilks thread.
Knowing your track record, it's over then.
Hope you are right
Okay Slade, tell us who you got as the new HC of
the New York Football Giants?
I am not enthused over Patricia myself.
Go away.
Belichick takes over and brings Patricia over as Assistant Head Coach!
Dream team!
Ohh fuck off Slade