I take it this presumes NYG will have a choice of at least one of these three ahead of the other teams in contention (Lions, Indy, Cards). then there were 3 - ( New Window )
Schwartz is not going to report this on a limb. Paul Schwartz is a respectable beat writer. I know its crazy to believe but he has more info than people on this board.
I was told don't believe what you read. These beats are in the 11th hour. Its time they make a guess.
Wilks is still the guy everyone is waiting on. That domino falls then we'll know the rest. We should know sometime tomorrow.
Patricia to Detroit is the consensus
AND
Nobody wants McDaniels.. Except maybe the Titans. No one knows what they are doing, there's still belief Mularkey will be fired.
These sports writers are all trying to stake a claim with their "inside" information. Everyone here probably has as good as guess as a they do.
I'd say it's safe bet to eliminate Spags and Studeville. Beyond those two, NOBODY knows for certain. Wilks is the only viable candidate that can sign now until MInn and NE are eliminated.
This is great news! Wilks may have been the choice, but he told the Giants that he had to make a decision this week. McDaniels is going to Indy. Patricia was either the first choice or a very close second. MP is willing to wait it out til end of season because he knows he will get the Pats job if BB comes here and the Giants job if BB stays put.
I've been reading Dave Birkett for Lions' updates and he reports that, while Lions did originally request an interview with Wilks, none has taken place and none is scheduled.
Not saying wilks is still in discussion...but don't you think he is just making this assumption because we haven't signed him and he is available? Like in other words, he believes he is out because the Giants don't love him and are waiting
This is great news! Wilks may have been the choice, but he told the Giants that he had to make a decision this week. McDaniels is going to Indy. Patricia was either the first choice or a very close second. MP is willing to wait it out til end of season because he knows he will get the Pats job if BB comes here and the Giants job if BB stays put.
Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.
The dream lives!
Doubtful
Should the failures of every Pats coordinator hired since Belichick Â
-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)
Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.
Not saying wilks is still in discussion...but don't you think he is just making this assumption because we haven't signed him and he is available? Like in other words, he believes he is out because the Giants don't love him and are waiting
Unless you think Schwartz is not telling the truth, no, he's not just making an assumption:
"Steve Wilks, the Panthers’ defensive coordinator, did not make the cut after the first round of interviews, according to someone with knowledge of the Giants’ thinking."
As for the possibility of NYG being left with no one, they'll figure out something. Maybe Jim Schwartz.
As other thread on board mentions, Rapoport now saying Wilks could return to Carolina as DC. He's not interviewing with Colts and, as I mentioned above, his interview with Lions never happened either.
Don't want spags here as DC....give me Patricia if that's the case...
Fuck it...
Sign Patricia call Kraft after they get knocked out tell him yo BB hates you...I'll ship you Patricia and a 2019 first rounder for BB....all parties will most likely agree...Patricia doesn't have to leave NE and gets a HC gig. BB gets to come home. All is well...
There would be crazy amount of tension if the there were 3 teams waiting on the pats fill their openings. wonder if someone hets scared and makes a reaction move.
-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)
Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.
Charlie Weis was a Parcells assistant for nine years. Romeo Crennell was a Parcells assistant from 1981 to 1999. To say they're 'Belichick guys' is pretty inaccurate.
If we're pointing out the assistants that failed, let's also mention the ones that didn't. Nick Saban was Belichick's DC for four years before moving on to become an incredible winner. Kirk Ferentz became a good head coach as well.
That formula DOES. NOT. WORK. IN. THE. NFL. Saban has said it. Urban Meyer has said it. Gus Malzahn has said it. What Saban and Ferentz do in college doesn’t work in the NFL. Belichick does something similar but he can only do that because he’s given FULL CONTROL OF THE ROSTER. None of Bill’s guys are gonna get that anywhere because they don’t have the resume Bill does. Even then. Bill doesn’t teach his coaches. Link - ( New Window )
Fully agree there's a big difference in College and pro football. Â
Didn’t think I had to clarify that but yes, I did mean in the NFL since the Giants do play in the NFL.
I don’t hate Patricia, he seems like a good hire, but the Patriots coaching tree has been either mediocre or stinky in the NFL. It’s a fact. Belichick is one of the greatest coaches of all time and Brady is arguably the greatest QB. One has to wonder exactly how much the coordinators matter on that team. It’s something to think about.
BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.
BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.
Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..
Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.
As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.
For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.
Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.
BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.
Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..
Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.
As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.
For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.
Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.
I have no idea what that means
I think it meant someone who was in or who had been within the organization at some point.
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I'll gladly take Patricia. I wonder what the deal breaker was with Wilks...
Lack of head coaching or long-term coordinating experience.
to much like macadoo
I have no idea what that means
Conservative approach- going with a familiar face instead of shaking things up and making "wholesale changes" as Mara said they would.
Hiring old friend Gettleman= the Giants way
Bringing back former DC Spags for a 2nd tour, promoting McAdoo to Head Coach etc etc.
Wilks is still the guy everyone is waiting on. That domino falls then we'll know the rest. We should know sometime tomorrow.
Patricia to Detroit is the consensus
AND
Nobody wants McDaniels.. Except maybe the Titans. No one knows what they are doing, there's still belief Mularkey will be fired.
Wilks is still the guy everyone is waiting on. That domino falls then we'll know the rest. We should know sometime tomorrow.
Patricia to Detroit is the consensus
AND
Nobody wants McDaniels.. Except maybe the Titans. No one knows what they are doing, there's still belief Mularkey will be fired.
These sports writers are all trying to stake a claim with their "inside" information. Everyone here probably has as good as guess as a they do.
I'd say it's safe bet to eliminate Spags and Studeville. Beyond those two, NOBODY knows for certain. Wilks is the only viable candidate that can sign now until MInn and NE are eliminated.
LMAO
boston/NE area guys getts and Patricia
Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.
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Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?
Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.
umm Wilkes?
We should absolutely hire him as that is like going 27-5 on any other team in the NFL...
boston/NE area guys getts and Patricia
Patricia grew up in Central NY, not a Boston/NE guy other than his most recent job location.
Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.
The dream lives!
Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.
I've been reading Dave Birkett for Lions' updates and he reports that, while Lions did originally request an interview with Wilks, none has taken place and none is scheduled.
Mike Vrabel might be Detroit's Plan B,
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Shurmur goes to the Cardinals, Patricia to the Lions, and McDaniels to the Colts. What’s plan B?
Exactly which us why this article makes no sense.
umm Wilkes?
The article makes no sense because it rules out Wilks. If the other three go somewhere else what is plan B?
Look for Wilks and Shurmer to go to Lions and AZ.
The dream lives!
Doubtful
-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)
Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.
No way Mara and Gettleman are that dumb.
Unless you think Schwartz is not telling the truth, no, he's not just making an assumption:
"Steve Wilks, the Panthers’ defensive coordinator, did not make the cut after the first round of interviews, according to someone with knowledge of the Giants’ thinking."
As for the possibility of NYG being left with no one, they'll figure out something. Maybe Jim Schwartz.
As other thread on board mentions, Rapoport now saying Wilks could return to Carolina as DC. He's not interviewing with Colts and, as I mentioned above, his interview with Lions never happened either.
Fuck it...
Sign Patricia call Kraft after they get knocked out tell him yo BB hates you...I'll ship you Patricia and a 2019 first rounder for BB....all parties will most likely agree...Patricia doesn't have to leave NE and gets a HC gig. BB gets to come home. All is well...
Make it happen Mara!
There would be crazy amount of tension if the there were 3 teams waiting on the pats fill their openings. wonder if someone hets scared and makes a reaction move.
Would Spags stick as DC with Shurmer?
Doubt that. KEENUM isn't good...I don't get why shurmur is ball riding him
Where do people come up with this? It’s like a kids’ game of telephone.
I agree
That has no chance in hell of happening.
Must be the Giants dont read BBI eh?
No one is a bigger dope than me. I'm still playing make believe that belichick is still in it. Go big or go home.
If not MP, then BB, JM, PS.
-Weiss
-Crennel
-Mangini
-McDaniels
-O”Brien (arguably the best, mediocre record)
Im seriously asking. What makes these guys different? I want to know what you think. I want Shurmur as of now because he’d help the young QB and is doing very well right now with Keenum. I wouldn’t mind Patricia but the track record of Pats coaches does scare me.
Charlie Weis was a Parcells assistant for nine years. Romeo Crennell was a Parcells assistant from 1981 to 1999. To say they're 'Belichick guys' is pretty inaccurate.
If we're pointing out the assistants that failed, let's also mention the ones that didn't. Nick Saban was Belichick's DC for four years before moving on to become an incredible winner. Kirk Ferentz became a good head coach as well.
Link - ( New Window )
I don’t hate Patricia, he seems like a good hire, but the Patriots coaching tree has been either mediocre or stinky in the NFL. It’s a fact. Belichick is one of the greatest coaches of all time and Brady is arguably the greatest QB. One has to wonder exactly how much the coordinators matter on that team. It’s something to think about.
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Giants way?
Hiring old friend Gettleman= the Giants way
Bringing back former DC Spags for a 2nd tour, promoting McAdoo to Head Coach etc etc.
McAdoo had absolutely no connection to the Giants prior to 2014. Was that a good thing?
And is promoting someone considered to be a hot young coordinator to HC, that unusual?
Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..
Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.
As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.
For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.
Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.
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BBI also is reporting that Wilks is a candidate, what does these beat writers know. It is almost unbelievable today. They tell us it is down to three candidates, tell us why, and BBI says they are wrong about Wilks, my guess is that this particular person told us it would be Wilks the next coach and as a BBI fearless forecaster he is not ready to concede just yet, he may even have some company with him on this.
Lol it seems as if no one knows anything huh? I'm sticking with my contact because of his track record and he's very adamant about Wilks still being in play/Patricia going to Detroit but also..
Common sense. And I say that in no disrespect to anyone. But just ask one simple question, how would these beats know anything in regards to something as high up as this? 4 men are in that discussion with no incentive to leak anything.
As fans we tend to be very impatient which leads us to bite and grab ahold of anything that's said. And when it doesn't happen as soon as we want we become very cynical.
For the Beats there's no reward for not making a guess.
Another thing that should be noted, why hasn't MG (who is still the most plugged in to the Giants) or Schefter (perhaps the best in the biz) reported anything? Thats telling.
And there you have it. Schefter speaks.