shoulder surgery back in '16 and 2 concussions in '17. He's obviously ahead of all the other QBs as a passer. Being pretty immobile means he's gunna take some shots.
shoulder surgery back in '16 and 2 concussions in '17. He's obviously ahead of all the other QBs as a passer. Being pretty immobile means he's gunna take some shots.
So, how long will he last?
Maybe he gets hurt again, maybe he doesn't. But he has the best combination of tools and smarts since Elway. "pretty immobile" is not accurate. He was a top 10 tennis player in the country as a junior and I understand tennis requires some mobility.
Shoulder not a problem. Concussions are big worry. Once you're at two
you're dangerously close to having more with less and less force. Would have big time neurological review before putting team's future on drafting him.
with concussion problems who can read safeties, we already have a 37 year old guy who's seen it all, has 2 rings, and can still freaking play. We need a guy who can pound the ball on the inside, give us a legit running game, and kick ass up front - YEAH - SAQUON BARKLEY
Can you also chime in on Rosen's mobility? He may not be a threat to take off for twenty yards, but he is adept at moving around in the pocket and fully capable of taking advantage of open lanes for the occasional five or ten yard gain.
Can you also chime in on Rosen's mobility? He may not be a threat to take off for twenty yards, but he is adept at moving around in the pocket and fully capable of taking advantage of open lanes for the occasional five or ten yard gain.
I can answer that. I watched him for 3 years and he has great feet in the pocket as one would expect with from elite tennis player. In other words, he's no statue.
Can you also chime in on Rosen's mobility? He may not be a threat to take off for twenty yards, but he is adept at moving around in the pocket and fully capable of taking advantage of open lanes for the occasional five or ten yard gain.
He took off for 37 vs Washington st and scored a TD.
This immobile label is crazy. He's a pocket passer 1st. Has the patience to stand in there and make his reads.. but that doesn't mean he's a statue.
with concussion problems who can read safeties, we already have a 37 year old guy who's seen it all, has 2 rings, and can still freaking play. We need a guy who can pound the ball on the inside, give us a legit running game, and kick ass up front - YEAH - SAQUON BARKLEY
So, you worry about a relative low injury risk position like qb. But advocate for drafting a position with the average shelf life of less then 5 years for a rb who hasn't shown to do much between the tackles?
with concussion problems who can read safeties, we already have a 37 year old guy who's seen it all, has 2 rings, and can still freaking play. We need a guy who can pound the ball on the inside, give us a legit running game, and kick ass up front - YEAH - SAQUON BARKLEY
...the QB's will come off the board Darnold, Allen, Rosen, Mayfield
I think they come off the board Darnold, Rosen, Mayfield, Allen...maybe even the first four picks in the draft if Denver and the Jets both make moves to trade up.
It'll be easier to predict once the destination for guys like Kirk Cousins, Case Keenum, Alex Smith, and Sam Bradford have been decided.
are the reasons I wouldn't draft him. I agree he very well may be the best all around QB available. But, he is susceptible to more concussions now. And, don't forget the last one was late in the season and serious.
are the reasons I wouldn't draft him. I agree he very well may be the best all around QB available. But, he is susceptible to more concussions now. And, don't forget the last one was late in the season and serious.
It wasn't necessarily serious. The reason he was kept out of the bowl game was because he had already had the two concussions and they didn't want to risk a third concussion within a two month span of time. After sitting for a year or two behind Eli, his past concussions will be far enough in his rearview mirror and of no greater concern than it is for any of these guys. A couple of years in the weight room will also help when it comes to avoiding injuries. Phil Simms suffered through injuries his first few years in the league, but after spending more time in the weight room, he managed to go several years injury-free before it finally caught up with him in 1990.
I could see using his history of injuries/concussions as a tie-breaker between him and another QB, but it's not a tie. So it's not a reason for Darnold to leapfrog him.
So, how long will he last?
So, how long will he last?
Maybe he gets hurt again, maybe he doesn't. But he has the best combination of tools and smarts since Elway. "pretty immobile" is not accurate. He was a top 10 tennis player in the country as a junior and I understand tennis requires some mobility.
I think he's a star.
I'm not worried about the concussions. They do a lot to protect these QBs in the NFL. Practically can't touch them.
This risks due to the concussions do not outweigh his talents.
Settling for the next-rung down of talent is an epic mistake...
I'm not worried about the concussions. They do a lot to protect these QBs in the NFL. Practically can't touch them.
All it takes is for 1 asshole defender to not care about the 15 yards and is more concerned about KO'ing the Giants.
He's not going to be the Giants starter... lol
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I'm not worried about the concussions. They do a lot to protect these QBs in the NFL. Practically can't touch them.
All it takes is for 1 asshole defender to not care about the 15 yards and is more concerned about KO'ing the Giants.
But honestly that can be said for any QB/player. And there's been plenty of QBs that still had long careers after a few concussions.
I can answer that. I watched him for 3 years and he has great feet in the pocket as one would expect with from elite tennis player. In other words, he's no statue.
He took off for 37 vs Washington st and scored a TD.
This immobile label is crazy. He's a pocket passer 1st. Has the patience to stand in there and make his reads.. but that doesn't mean he's a statue.
You're spewing this on like 10 different threads.
Repeating it 1000 times isn't going to make it any less false.
It's over for this player.
So, you worry about a relative low injury risk position like qb. But advocate for drafting a position with the average shelf life of less then 5 years for a rb who hasn't shown to do much between the tackles?
It's over for this player.
Ha ha ha! He got Eddie Mush'd
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It'll be easier to predict once the destination for guys like Kirk Cousins, Case Keenum, Alex Smith, and Sam Bradford have been decided.
I could see using his history of injuries/concussions as a tie-breaker between him and another QB, but it's not a tie. So it's not a reason for Darnold to leapfrog him.
It's over for this player.
Catch Lonzo's game last night? Or were you sleeping?
I just can't get past that...so I keep landing on either Darnold or Allen.