For the first time in 20 games, Hardaway Jr. was upgraded from out to questionable for Friday night’s game against the Timberwolves. And once Hardaway Jr. returns and is 100 percent, coach Jeff Hornacek indicated that the rotation will revert to its previous incarnation — meaning the possibility of DNPs for Beasley.
“Every one of (our bench players) lends us something and it could be situational,” Hornacek said. “Lance (Thomas) has done a great job defending some of these guys. Prior to when Tim was here, there were nights when Lance didn’t play. There were nights Mike didn’t play. So we’ll probably end up going back to that.”-NYPOST
THjr obviously is more important than Beasley but this is kind of absurd when you consider Lance Thomas will have guaranteed PT but Beasley out of the rotation. I'd argue he's "easily" been one of the top 3-4 players on the team.
It's a direct quote from Hornacek
Hornacek already said he will play Thomas over beasley..
Which absolutely absurd, he is going to bench a guy averaging 14 points per game for lance Thomas haha
Honestly if Hardway is back to his old self we probably won't have the pressing need for Beasley's scoring as much as we do now, but games are fluid.
Wait. What? lol
Beasley has been great, but I feel like I'm watching Melo Ball again.
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Redick is not "convinced" Dinosaurs existed.
Wait. What? lol
He claims someone coined the term and then suddenly fossils started showing up. He seems like a smart guy (and I have yet to listen to the audio) so maybe he was just doing some sort of shtick but everyone who listens to his podcast is reporting he said it "straight".
Honestly if Hardway is back to his old self we probably won't have the pressing need for Beasley's scoring as much as we do now, but games are fluid.
He said it a couple of weeks ago
"“Mike knows his role,” Knicks coach Jeff Hornacek said. “If K.P.’s out he obviously gets the bigger minutes. I thought he played great in filling in for him. He really helped us get some points on the board. Defensively I liked what he was doing. He’s definitely a rotation guy for us. We have still Tim out. That enables us to put Lance (Thomas) in there a little bit more so Mike’s still going to get that rotation. When Tim does comes back, it kind of goes back - how are we going to do it? But he’s played well.”
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but if that is truly what happens, that's terrible.
Hornacek already said he will play Thomas over beasley..
Which absolutely absurd, he is going to bench a guy averaging 14 points per game for lance Thomas haha
I'll still wait and see how it unfolds. Words are one thing, actions are another. It's an absurd thought. Hopefully some team comes calling about Lance.
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Redick is not "convinced" Dinosaurs existed.
Wait. What? lol
He claims someone coined the term and then suddenly fossils started showing up. He seems like a smart guy (and I have yet to listen to the audio) so maybe he was just doing some sort of shtick but everyone who listens to his podcast is reporting he said it "straight".
So random.
Hysterical. lol
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but if that is truly what happens, that's terrible.
Hornacek already said he will play Thomas over beasley..
Which absolutely absurd, he is going to bench a guy averaging 14 points per game for lance Thomas haha
I'll still wait and see how it unfolds. Words are one thing, actions are another. It's an absurd thought. Hopefully some team comes calling about Lance.
When has hornacek ever benched Thomas?
Beasley has been great, but I feel like I'm watching Melo Ball again.
Please explain. Melo ball from Melo's prime years or Melo ball circa 2016/2017/2018?
No way is this anything like the current version of Melo. He's more like prime Melo if anything and is that really a bad thing? He's a bench player making nothing.
Beasley is taking the ball to the rim a lot. Over 60% of Beasleys shots are coming from within 10 feet. A third of his shots are coming right at the rim. Compare that to Melo, the last 3 years he's averaging 20% of his shots coming from within 10 feet. Right now, under 10% of Melo's shots are at the rim.
All of that makes a huge difference and it's why Melo is no longer a good player. You are gonna need scorers in Iso, give me the guy that takes the ball to the rim and things happen over the guy that takes contested long jumpers that lead to breaks for the other team.
The Knicks don't play Melo Ball until the end of games and it is quite frustrating to watch.
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but if that is truly what happens, that's terrible.
Hornacek already said he will play Thomas over beasley..
Which absolutely absurd, he is going to bench a guy averaging 14 points per game for lance Thomas haha
I'll still wait and see how it unfolds. Words are one thing, actions are another. It's an absurd thought. Hopefully some team comes calling about Lance.
When has hornacek ever benched Thomas?
Never. I'm not doubting that this will be the move, I'm just gonna wait to complain until it actually happens. lol
The Knicks don't play Melo Ball until the end of games and it is quite frustrating to watch.
So Melo ball = Iso ball? Every team does that. Beasley is a blessed scorer, he was scoring the day he came into this world. That's what he does. There was nothing wrong when Melo did it either when he was actually good and could get to the rim.
Are you serious? So because he is not doing what the greatest player the world is doing it is wrong?
You realize that LeBron is their point guard right? So the reason why down the stretch he is passing is because he is their facilitator...
Who is going to do that for the knicks?
I'm sorry going to Michael Beasley time after time in crunch time is not the best strategy.
Beasley is not efficient, he is a turnover machine.
I remember one play in the Bulls game, Beasley put his head down, drove to the hoop. Porzingis was standing wide open, Beasley forced the shot and it got blocked, fast break the other way.
I'm sorry going to Michael Beasley time after time in crunch time is not the best strategy.
Beasley is not efficient, he is a turnover machine.
I remember one play in the Bulls game, Beasley put his head down, drove to the hoop. Porzingis was standing wide open, Beasley forced the shot and it got blocked, fast break the other way.
Michael beasley is not effecient? Hahahahahahahahahaha
He is averaging 13 points on 52 percent shooting, 54 percent on 2s..
Oh and turnover machine? He has 2 turnovers per game..
Oh btw only playing 19 minutes a night
McDermott is a good shooter and does a nice job moving without the ball.
But both guys are very limited players. McDermott is a "scorer" who has a terrible point output per minute played and does not create shots for others. Severely limited player, yet there is no outcry about Beasley sitting for him. Wonder why that could be?
McDermott is a good shooter and does a nice job moving without the ball.
But both guys are very limited players. McDermott is a "scorer" who has a terrible point output per minute played and does not create shots for others. Severely limited player, yet there is no outcry about Beasley sitting for him. Wonder why that could be?
Because like you said mcdermott plays a role, he is an off ball, spread the floor shooter..
Lance Thomas does nothing of value on the court, spare me is a good defender, he tries hard that is as about all he does..
1. Tank hard
or
2. Trade KP
Otherwise I don't see any way he's there when we pick
He was being pretty straight. He had Kyrie Irving on, and he was asking him about the flat earth thing, and then they were talking about conspiracy theories in general, and being skeptical about stuff, and Redick said "I know I'm wrong about this, but the one that gets me ..." is dinosaurs. It didn't seem like he adamantly believes all the fossils and everything are completely made up, but that he just thinks there's something fishy about all of it, like how do scientists really know how the bones go together to create these dinosaur skeletons as opposed to a woolly mammoth or any other kind of animal.
McDerrmott, O'Quinn, Beasley. Even Kanter. All the guys who can opt out or have contracts up this year, get picks or young cost controlled assets for them if you can. Unless you think they have a future on the team (not sure what the orgs thoughts on Kanter are).
If we could land a middle of the pack 1 for some of these guys and don't add to the future salary, it could really help us down the road.
The Brooklyn pick isn’t as heralded as it was when the trade happened
The nets are playing very well. Atkinson is one of the better young coaches in the league. This team plays hard and may not be in the lottery
Beasley, Oquinn, Jack, Lee for the Nets pick? Plus some salary
McDerrmott, O'Quinn, Beasley. Even Kanter. All the guys who can opt out or have contracts up this year, get picks or young cost controlled assets for them if you can. Unless you think they have a future on the team (not sure what the orgs thoughts on Kanter are).
If we could land a middle of the pack 1 for some of these guys and don't add to the future salary, it could really help us down the road.
Fully agree with this. I will be soooo excited if Perry/Mills do this. In a way if they traded all these guys you mention it'll speed up our process greatly imo. It would feel like a Brian Cashman job.
Anyways I hope they trade all those guys , if not for picks then maybe attach Noah for cap relief.
Wouldn't hurt signing another THJR level player to compliment KP, Frank, and our draft pick.
I'd think it'd be easy to find a trade partner for him. It's getting back a worthwhile pick/players that may be tough.
Gotta figure Hardaway and Ntilikina are viewed as building blocks, but they shouldn't be off the table. Everyone else is fair game, and Courtney Lee should've been moved already.
Problem is, Steve Mills has already harped on stability, given all the chaos in recent years. Leads me to believe trades will be minimal, and Hornacek will stick around.
McDerrmott, O'Quinn, Beasley. Even Kanter. All the guys who can opt out or have contracts up this year, get picks or young cost controlled assets for them if you can. Unless you think they have a future on the team (not sure what the orgs thoughts on Kanter are).
I agree with this and have been in this boat for a bit now. KP isn't ready to carry a team into the playoffs he needs help and we need to lose as many games as possible for that. I'd go further and say that a 1st rounder isn't even necessary grab a bunch of second rounders even for Lee, KOQ and Kanter. One would be fine but one this year and one next year is realistic for these guys.
If we could land a middle of the pack 1 for some of these guys and don't add to the future salary, it could really help us down the road.
Gotta figure Hardaway and Ntilikina are viewed as building blocks, but they shouldn't be off the table. Everyone else is fair game, and Courtney Lee should've been moved already.
Problem is, Steve Mills has already harped on stability, given all the chaos in recent years. Leads me to believe trades will be minimal, and Hornacek will stick around.
KP is untouchable in my eyes. Not sure why anyone would even consider that an option. He's made a big leap as "the man" and he's shown that he can do it. NOw he needs to prove he can do it for 82 games(crap, I'll take 72!).
Out of curiousity, what is an offer you can't refuse for KP? Being realistic.
MINNEAPOLIS — Michael Beasley has carried the Knicks offensively in many games recently, but he said he’s not surprised that his playing time could be dramatically cut when Tim Hardaway Jr. returns from injury.
“Honestly, no,” Beasley said Friday. “I’m used to it at this point. Just doing what the team needs, doing what the team asks. If they don’t ask for anything I guess I don’t do anything.”\
“I’m used to dramatic change, I’m used to ups and downs,” Beasley said. “If anything happens to where I don’t play anymore I can’t cry about it. Just got to look forward to tomorrow, get my work in, keep my conditioning up.”
I think the BIG question- and one that could change everything- what if the Knicks decide to shut down KP and have the elbow surgery in March so he's fully rested and healed for next year?
The Knicks would almost certainly sink into the high lottery then.
Beasley, Oquinn, Jack, Lee for the Nets pick? Plus some salary
Cmon dude...
They held him out of last game and he will be held out tonight and is not even with the team..
Liked him coming out but he just can't shoot which limits any value he might have
I think the BIG question- and one that could change everything- what if the Knicks decide to shut down KP and have the elbow surgery in March so he's fully rested and healed for next year?
The Knicks would almost certainly sink into the high lottery then.
I agree. We have seen that this team is most likely a 38-40 win team at best with everybody healthy.
But they need another top player and some young complementary parts. Another lottery pick would be best in the long run
Can we stop with the fucking unicorn crap, he folds up like a cheap suit in the 4th quarter
Just a lack of effort. Every third quarter he comes out like he just completed a triathlon in the first half. Usually picks it up towards the end. But the opposition routinely destroys the Knicks at the beginning of he second half.
Hornacek still blows, I can't believe how a former player known for his smarts and guile on the court can be so clueless as a coach. The management needs to tell him to the play the youngsers.
Our deceiving record is the result of Beasley and Jack's surprising play, which does absolutely nothing for our future. We can kiss Porter/Bagley/Doncic goodbye now.
Not to beat a dead horse, but Mitchell is a bonafide star, our savior can't even get off the bench!!! I am going to fucking scream if somebody preaches patience on Frank. KP still could still be a #1 option, but how stupid was it to pick a role/complementary player when the roster is devoid of talent? Who cares if Mitchell is a me-first player? Wo need talent, period!!
Tank, tank, tank. Trade Lee, KOQ, Beasley, and maybe even Kanter, we need to go full tank.
Finally, somebody needs to be a Tonya Harding on Lance Thomas. Please.
Hornacek still blows, I can't believe how a former player known for his smarts and guile on the court can be so clueless as a coach. The management needs to tell him to the play the youngsers.
Our deceiving record is the result of Beasley and Jack's surprising play, which does absolutely nothing for our future. We can kiss Porter/Bagley/Doncic goodbye now.
Not to beat a dead horse, but Mitchell is a bonafide star, our savior can't even get off the bench!!! I am going to fucking scream if somebody preaches patience on Frank. KP still could still be a #1 option, but how stupid was it to pick a role/complementary player when the roster is devoid of talent? Who cares if Mitchell is a me-first player? Wo need talent, period!!
Tank, tank, tank. Trade Lee, KOQ, Beasley, and maybe even Kanter, we need to go full tank.
Finally, somebody needs to be a Tonya Harding on Lance Thomas. Please.
What do Giannis, Kawhi, Lowry, Gobert, Hayward, PG13, Jimmy Butler, Milsap, Green, Harden and Deandre have in common?
All top 30 players who didn't start or average double digit points in their rookie year. You have no idea what Frank is yet.
He's 19 years old and no amount of screaming is going to make it a good take.
There's nothing "deceiving" about their record. Nobody had them figured for anything more than mediocre and that's exactly what they are.
I haven't given up on Frank yet, but would like to see him play more. It's frustrating that he hasn't shown more so Horancek would be compelled to play him more. Then again, Lance Thomas logs major minutes nightly.
And I can't believe some of you haven't thought about having Mitchell on this team instead of Frank. Especially now that KP has shown he's not ready to carry the load physically and mentally yet.
The record doesn't matter. I'd be happy if they lost every game and Lance Thomas was stuffed into a locker every night. The youngsters simply have to play more, the record be damned.
I still do not get it...