"Sleeper" implies someone unexpected that could beat out the reported front runners (Patricia/Shurmur/etc). The article frames it more as a Plan D if Patricia/Shurmur/McD all sign elsewhere.
is definitely the "guy they want but can't get" that was mentioned in one of the articles (way too many to remember which). I'm heavily paraphrasing but it was also posted in the forum too.
to try and let the other candidates know the Giants aren't desperate when it comes to negotiating a deal...I still suspect they're hoping it's one of the 3 being talked about
that was very strange for him to take the interview from Indy. No matter what he says, no recruit is going to listen to him in Baylor. I've said before the Giants liked him and sent him away to Temple for more grooming as a head coach, very similar to when Coughlin was sent to BC.
comments like inpatient high school kids on social media. Ending the piece by writing 'eventually'. Give me a fucking break. They are trying to make The Giants look like they have no idea what they are doing, but Arizona, Detroit, and Indianapolis have their finger on the pulse of the NFL. If it is one of the 3 coordinators they are constantly mentioning, the Giants CAN'T FUCKING ANNOUNCE IT BECAUSE THEY ARE STILL PLAYING. So come up with an 'Unnamed dark horse'. I guess they forgot how to spell Cowher.
He will announce his retirement after winning the Super Bowl and then bring his ball deflater with him to New York to begin his coaching career. Hey..John Elway bevame a GM..so why not?
Coached in NY- yup
Has familiarity with the Mara family- bingo
Has won on a Super Bowl before- done it twice, y'all
Well rested- How does 26 years sound?
Head coaching experience- 2 years and that time in high school
I hope that Tom Quinn does get announced as the next HC.
It would be worth the 2 years of absolute miserable football to be here on BBI to experience it.
P.S.- Shurmur still the man according to my sources FWIW.
Would Shurmur come here over Arizona? Both teams do need QBs and so we might be in a better situation currently with Eli and Webb already on board. Oline should get straightened to some extent by DG this off-season and RB situation, as well. I guess we’ll find out a lot more on Monday.
Coached in NY- yup
Has familiarity with the Mara family- bingo
Has won on a Super Bowl before- done it twice, y'all
Well rested- How does 26 years sound?
Head coaching experience- 2 years and that time in high school
Funny, I read an article the other day that re-addressed the crossroads Harbaugh and the Ravens are at...gave the impression both parties could still part ways amicably.
I hope we are at last speaking to his agent for general inquiries...assuming that that is allowed...
He is still trying to mend the fences in NE and is focused on the playoffs. Secrecy in NE is absolute - as it was when Parcells left. If BB comes to the Giants MP will coach the Pats. Otherwise, if BB stays MP will coach the Giants. Hard to give odds at this point. McDaniel will go elsewhere.
BB decision factors
Relationship with Kraft is worse than it was
Relationship with Brady is worse than it was
Brady is aging with no heir apparent
Would have to break in two new coordinators in 2018
May lose other coaches as well to Patricia and McDaniel
Has lost some key lieutenants in the front office
Giants job is open THIS year
Better to leave one year too early than one year too late
I would think the fact that Spags has not been reported to be interviewing for any other jobs, means something is up. And so there may be substance to the Shurmer rumors.
Not starting from scratch I think is a big mistake but I think that the Giants haven’t notified Spags and that known by him looking elsewhere is a potentially big tell.
Or Belichick. (double ducks)
Offensive minded coach to fix offense, long time HC and coordinator, giants ties, has control of his team, well respected.
he is the guy, dunno how much to give up for him but id be happy with him, BB or patricia
I think he's still claiming BB is in play.
A sleeper to me would be someone like David Shaw.
A man can dream.
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Or Belichick. (double ducks)
Don't duck. Stand up and be proud!
I think Bill to the Giants is not out of the question.
Hahaha
Either the "sleeper" is Belichick, or Bob Kratch must be erased from the Giants history books.
Just to troll BBI Mara should schedule a head coaching interview with Quinn. It would be epic!
Are you hearing Patricia?
I laughed....
something isn't right if you look closely 😉
He said Sleeper not comatose.
LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Are you hearing Patricia?
I got nothing yet. If I were to speculate, I'd say perhaps DG leaning MP and Mara leaning Shurmur.
If true, I hope it is a not so glamorous pick in the name of Mike Munchak.
Exactly. Once you read the story, it reads more like a backup plan (which makes perfect sense and is smart) than a true "sleeper".
LOL.
With Wilks seemingly returning to Carolina, that leaves hot 3 candidates for 4 teams right now.
I am now making a tentative plan to buy a new TV and work boots(will be putting down the remote, picking up work boots) if he is picked.
It would be worth the 2 years of absolute miserable football to be here on BBI to experience it.
P.S.- Shurmur still the man according to my sources FWIW.
Then again, how many people said similar things when George Steinbrenner fired & rehired Billy Martin...what was it FIVE times?
Doesnt really fit the true definition of "sleeper" as someone who was considered a favorite just one week ago but that's how I read it.
Unless Tom Rock thinks sleeper means something entirely different than what it actually means.
Whaaa...WHAT, WHAT!?? WAIT A SEC!
L. O. F. L.
Quite possibly of all time.
You mean the Broncos QB coach?
Which means he's all but off the list.
Coached in NY- yup
Has familiarity with the Mara family- bingo
Has won on a Super Bowl before- done it twice, y'all
Well rested- How does 26 years sound?
Head coaching experience- 2 years and that time in high school
I'd say a sleeper pick.
I may be in the minority but I wouldn’t mind him as Patricia’s DC.
It would be worth the 2 years of absolute miserable football to be here on BBI to experience it.
P.S.- Shurmur still the man according to my sources FWIW.
Would Shurmur come here over Arizona? Both teams do need QBs and so we might be in a better situation currently with Eli and Webb already on board. Oline should get straightened to some extent by DG this off-season and RB situation, as well. I guess we’ll find out a lot more on Monday.
My guess... Dennis Allen, DC, New Orleans Saints. HC experience. Defensive coach. Hair not slicked back. Check, check and check.
Much ado about nothing
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I hope that Tom Quinn does get announced as the next HC.
It would be worth the 2 years of absolute miserable football to be here on BBI to experience it.
P.S.- Shurmur still the man according to my sources FWIW.
Hope you're right about Shurmur
Coached in NY- yup
Has familiarity with the Mara family- bingo
Has won on a Super Bowl before- done it twice, y'all
Well rested- How does 26 years sound?
Head coaching experience- 2 years and that time in high school
Sooo, it IS a crap shoot.
I'd say a sleeper pick.
If the Ravens fired Harbaugh then he would go to the top of the list for the Giants. Having said that there is almost no chance of that happening.
Funny, I read an article the other day that re-addressed the crossroads Harbaugh and the Ravens are at...gave the impression both parties could still part ways amicably.
I hope we are at last speaking to his agent for general inquiries...assuming that that is allowed...
From your lips to God's ears.
He is still trying to mend the fences in NE and is focused on the playoffs. Secrecy in NE is absolute - as it was when Parcells left. If BB comes to the Giants MP will coach the Pats. Otherwise, if BB stays MP will coach the Giants. Hard to give odds at this point. McDaniel will go elsewhere.
BB decision factors
Relationship with Kraft is worse than it was
Relationship with Brady is worse than it was
Brady is aging with no heir apparent
Would have to break in two new coordinators in 2018
May lose other coaches as well to Patricia and McDaniel
Has lost some key lieutenants in the front office
Giants job is open THIS year
Better to leave one year too early than one year too late
It would take a lot to win the belt from 2005, IMO. That was entirely FA-driven, but that's the craziest offseason in my book.
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craziest, dare I say ever?, and we just started.
It would take a lot to win the belt from 2005, IMO. That was entirely FA-driven, but that's the craziest offseason in my book.
remember 2005 being a great off season
this one started..let's see how this ends up.
Maybe more of a stalker...
If he shook loose, I'd hire him in a second.
Won't happen, though.
But just like in trades, sometimes the ones you don t make are the best ones, maybe they would luck into the best guy despite themselves
But difficult to believe all three of those other teams would be preferred over the Giants.
Not starting from scratch I think is a big mistake but I think that the Giants haven’t notified Spags and that known by him looking elsewhere is a potentially big tell.