He is stating McDaniels is the favorite in Indy, Patricia in Detroit & it may be between Shurmur & Wilks for the Giants. Arizona also looking at Shurmur & Wilks.
Bottom line is no one knows. If Wilks was the guy though, why isn’t he hired? This would allow a head start on filling assistant positions. That is a reason I think it is between Patricia & Shurmur. Lions are a huge wildcard though.
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"As for Wilks, the respect GM Dave Gettleman has for him has gone a long way, and he's very much in the picture."
We will see ....
Maybe they want a second round of interviews and think that waiting another couple of days (or 9) outweighs the benefit of losing an assistant or two.
There are 3 people who definitely know (John Mara, Tisch and Gettleman) which way they are leaning. Maybe Chris Mara may be in the loop also for obvious reasons. Outside possibility that Spags may know if the favorite has identified him to stay on. That's about it. There should be no reason to have any leaks with that small a pool of people.
This just seems so odd that 4 teams needing coaches and not one of them has unofficially found their HC. Especially given that all expected candidates have interviewed. While I know nothing can be official, we all know how those decisions are leaked almost always. And again 4 teams all being linked to 2 or 3 favorites but still no decision.
I'll be so glad when this mess is finally over.
The fact that Wilks hasn't been hired yet means they have their eye on somebody else.. He is still in play if the doomsday scenario happens..
Otherwise why wait.. get to work and build your staff. Start evaluating the talent on the team.
I am all for Wilks if they can't get Patricia or Shurmur. Big NOOOOO to McDaniels.
Good point about Wilks not being hired yet though. It does indicate he's not NYG's first choice.
Getting this hire right is so important. It is really difficult to evaluate someone's potential to lead successfully.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
And this is based off of what exactly?
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
Your entitled to your opinion, but it would carry more weight if you could give some solid reasons for it, given the inflammatory nature of it.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
Couldn't agree more. Well said. Not only do they have to get this hire right, they have to hit on the 2nd pick and the remaining picks in this draft.
Good point about Wilks not being hired yet though. It does indicate he's not NYG's first choice.
Getting this hire right is so important. It is really difficult to evaluate someone's potential to lead successfully.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
The sky isn’t falling!! Why don’t u wait and see what happens? None of us know how any of these guys will work out.
And this is based off of what exactly?
It isn't really based on anything but a hunch just like a lot of comments here. It just feels like Schumer and Wilks are the same old same old. It feels like McAdoo 2.0. I feel like the Pats coaches are better "groomed" for this moment. They've been to Super Bowls and won them. The Panthers have had good years, but they never finished the task. Who knows how long the Vikings run is going to be? I want the smartest guy for the job and that's Patricia. The Patriots are good due to Belichick being very intelligent and a hard worker. All reports say Patricia is a hard worker and is extremely intelligent.
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And this is based off of what exactly?
It isn't really based on anything but a hunch just like a lot of comments here. It just feels like Schumer and Wilks are the same old same old. It feels like McAdoo 2.0. I feel like the Pats coaches are better "groomed" for this moment. They've been to Super Bowls and won them. The Panthers have had good years, but they never finished the task. Who knows how long the Vikings run is going to be? I want the smartest guy for the job and that's Patricia. The Patriots are good due to Belichick being very intelligent and a hard worker. All reports say Patricia is a hard worker and is extremely intelligent.
I want Patricia too but that doesn’t make the other guts bad choices.
The sky isn’t falling!! Why don’t u wait and see what happens? None of us know how any of these guys will work out.
It isn't falling and we don't know what's going to happen. I agree. These beat writers are getting annoying with the contradictory statements they keep making. One minute is is Patricia... One minute it's McDaniels... One minute it's Wilks, Wilks is out... Wiks is in.
There is urgency here to make the right choice. The McAdoo choice really set this franchise back. We hired a coach that was married to his offense and couldn't evolve. He was horrible with personnel matters and even worse with the media. They can't make this mistake again.
That leaves Shurmur, Patricia, and (maybe) Wilks for NYG, Arizona, and Detroit. I don’t think you can really go wrong with any of the 3.
You can make an argument of since you wanted to run this organization like it's 1988 and hire a GM first you might as well let him pick the coach. I am not in favor or Wilks, I'd rather have one of the Patriots assistance.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
While I’ve read some nice things about Patricia but just hearing him talk and how he carries,I don’t see him as being a guys that is respected by the players. He sounds like a kid.
You are most likely correct. The Giants may not be looking like an attractive job to most of these candidates.
I respectfully, and whole heartedly, disagree. I believe both Patricia and McDaniels are gonna flame out big time as HC. Especially Patricia because history has shown time and time again that Belichick guys always burn out their first HC jobs. Another thing that everyone here needs to understand. Just because a guy can scheme doesn’t mean he can be a HC. They take two different skill sets. McDaniels and Patricia are top notch scheme guys. I do not see HC material in either of those two. Look at the HCs in the playoffs! Tomlin, Belichick, Munchak, Marrone, Quinn, Payton, and Zimmer. All of those guys are great leaders (idk much about Pederson). All of those guys can look their players in the eye and get them to push their limits. I don’t get that from either of The NE guys.
While I’ve read some nice things about Patricia but just hearing him talk and how he carries,I don’t see him as being a guys that is respected by the players. He sounds like a kid.
McAdoo was in the playoffs last year. That didn't make him a good coach. I would love Sean Payton. He is the one that got away.
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If they chose Wilks or Schumer it tells me all I need to know. They do not know what they're doing or no one wants to come here. Matt Patricia and Josh McDaniels are the better choices. I really want Patricia. I would rather take someone under the best coach than Wilks or Schumer. Maybe we can get a winning season or two out of them, but I want this team to move into the Steelers/Pats category. A long period of sustained winning. This franchise hasn't had that since the 1980s.
I have a feeling WIlks or Schumer are going to be an epic disaster here. They will also get at least 3 years because this team will not fire the next coach in 2 years of less even if it's a disaster for fear of looking unstable. This team has been missing the playoffs since 2012 every year (minus 2011).
They have to get the right coach this time or this could set the franchise back even further.
And this is based off of what exactly?
Without any evidence or analysis, one could easily opine the same about the other candidates. We can all agree on the importance of getting this right. I'd also caution against the notion that of the guys in play only one could be successful.
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The sky isn’t falling!! Why don’t u wait and see what happens? None of us know how any of these guys will work out.
It isn't falling and we don't know what's going to happen. I agree. These beat writers are getting annoying with the contradictory statements they keep making. One minute is is Patricia... One minute it's McDaniels... One minute it's Wilks, Wilks is out... Wiks is in.
There is urgency here to make the right choice. The McAdoo choice really set this franchise back. We hired a coach that was married to his offense and couldn't evolve. He was horrible with personnel matters and even worse with the media. They can't make this mistake again.
Agree 100%. They need to make the right choice and it’s frustrating not moving what’s really happening
Patricia
Shurmur
McDaniels
Wilks (last option)
Giants could also consider a Eagles assistant if none of their top three end up here. I’m not a Schwartz fan, and he doesn’t appear to endear himself to the media either. That could be a real shitshow in NY!