Here's an old article mostly about the Peyton Manning vs Ryan Leaf debate and this one guy's psychological breakdown on them as well as several other successful QBs.
“I took it out of that bogus Myers-Briggs world and tried to take it into the brain and what it’s really representing,” Niednagel said.
Jones could rattle off the names of all the great quarterbacks who were ESTPs (FEIRs): Joe Montana, John Elway, Johnny Unitas, Joe Namath, Jim Kelly, Troy Aikman, Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton and Brett Favre. An eye-catching majority of the Hall of Fame quarterbacks who played in the past 30 years are this one personality type. So were other Super Bowl–winning quarterbacks Ken Stabler, Phil Simms, Joe Theismann and Trent Dilfer. Jones used the famous NFL Films anecdote of Montana — the moment before beginning a last-minute, game-winning, touchdown drive in the Super Bowl, walking into the huddle and matter-of-factly pointing out John Candy in the crowd to one of his linemen as an example of a guy wired to thrive under pressure. |
Manning vs Leaf (and more) revisited - (
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I think it's the same guy, but I don't recall his assessment being that harsh.
I found this:
Regarding the newspaper article that covered JN’s evaluation, BTI later wrote: What JN stated and implied is that since Eli’s Brain Type is not as consistently good as brother Peyton’s at QB, especially under big-time pressure and over the course of a career, the odds are against him to match his brother’s prowess. JN also told the reporter specific areas where Eli’s Brain Type wasn’t as proficient as Peyton’s, as well as where it was better.
JN also reminded the writer that although few ISFPs have been regarded as top QBs, fellow ISFPs Warren Moon and Steve McNair have fared very well over their careers. Over his 21-year pro career, Moon was selected to 9 Pro Bowls. (By the way, due to their right-brained gross motor superiority, ISFPs are the Methuselahs of sports. See JN’s YKtSS book for further explanation.) In 2003, McNair was finally invited to his first Pro Bowl after nine NFL seasons. He was also league co-MVP in 2003. These ISFPs have been exceptions, and to ensure success for ISFPs at NFL QB, mobility is a key ingredient. Over the past 30 years, ISFPs have ranked in the top 7 (out of 16) of NFL quarterbacks. Some other ISFP QBs have included Doug Williams, Daunte Culpepper, Chris Redman, Tony Banks, and Tee Martin.
Generally speaking, the following are a few of the many traits of the ISFP and ESTP playing QB (these can also be altered by other genetic and environmental factors):
ISFP
ESTP
energy level in life
mod. to low
high
peripheral vision
very good
excellent
seeing passing angles
very good
excellent
decision making (at QB)
good
very good
calling audibles
very good
excellent
Eli’s superiority over Peyton
Though Peyton’s ESTP (FEIR) BT has historically been the NFL’s best, we want to leave you with some of the areas where Eli’s inborn design is actually innately better than Peyton’s at QB. ISFPs’ gross motor superiority enables them to usually have the stronger arms, better body balance, and greater overall body durability–including taking hits when running or scrambling. ISFPs are also usually more personable and less critical of teammates, try to please coaches more, and are less likely to steal something out of a teammates locker. (ESTPs without good ethics tend toward kleptomania. 🙂
Brain Types - ( New Window )
You've managed to repeat yourself over and over again with regards to Rosen.
You've managed to repeat yourself over and over again with regards to Rosen.
b) Given that I have no idea what Rosen's brain type is, I'm not sure how this is a case of me repeating myself.
I've been repeating myself plenty but you picked the wrong thread to call me out on it.
Seems more likely a thinking auxiliary type, ESTP or ENTP.
So you're saying Namath couldn't read NFL defenses? I'd beg to differ. So would any NFL observer from that era.
He isn’t a slam dunk prospect because his health concerns are very real. I’ll default to DG on this one and won’t be pissed if we took him, but concussions are no joke, and he’s had 2, likely more.
Its what's between the ears that matters most.
The Brain Doctor, 2001 article - ( New Window )
For some, study skills and technique and hard work (Peyton) others implacability (Eli) courage (Simms).
A weakness in corporate life or on city streets (sensory processing disorder, IE you take in all input at once...which can wear one down and lead to serious mental illness such as schizophrenia, over time) might be a strength on a battlefield, or football field, if you get there before it progresses... or get rest or treatment (Ryan leaf...a few years before he self medicated himself out of the league?) or who...elway? Farve? Rogers? On the upside?