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Not sold on Patricia

MaineMike : 1/13/2018 4:25 pm
Hope the Giants do the right thing, just unsure of Patricia because he has been with BB... And I still think BB has a lot of say on any defensive team he coaches... I personally think there is a better choice than the 3 top guys mentioned....
Fair  
cokeduplt : 1/13/2018 4:33 pm : link
Enough, who’s the better choice in your opinion?
If you think there is a better choice then please  
Brown Recluse : 1/13/2018 4:36 pm : link
enlighten us.
HC pool  
jbeintherockies : 1/13/2018 4:45 pm : link
It really isn't a strong HC pool to choose from.
Seems  
darren in pdx : 1/13/2018 4:49 pm : link
like these are the best candidates left unless there is some reality where Saban and Belichick are candidates.
I have no idea  
MaineMike : 1/13/2018 4:50 pm : link
I guess the pool isn't strong... Not just hot on any of these guys...
I find it appealing  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/13/2018 4:55 pm : link
That he has significant experience coaching on both sides of the ball. I am also sick of the image of an offensive head coach with a huge dinner menu of plays in front of their face on the sideline. I don't see him dong that.
What happened to Studesville?  
jnoble : 1/13/2018 5:00 pm : link
Is he not an option now?
RE: I have no idea  
BigBlue4You09 : 1/13/2018 5:09 pm : link
In comment 13786100 MaineMike said:
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I guess the pool isn't strong... Not just hot on any of these guys...


Cool story, cool thread
RE: Fair  
AnishPatel : 1/13/2018 5:11 pm : link
In comment 13786077 cokeduplt said:
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Enough, who’s the better choice in your opinion?


I agree, who else is there with HCing experience?
Who would you be "sold" on?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2018 5:22 pm : link
A head coach who had success elsewhere but was also fired at one point?
RE: RE: I have no idea  
cokeduplt : 1/13/2018 5:28 pm : link
In comment 13786118 BigBlue4You09 said:
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In comment 13786100 MaineMike said:


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I guess the pool isn't strong... Not just hot on any of these guys...



Cool story, cool thread


Yea really. You don’t like anyone yet have no suggestions.
We have no idea whether any of these guys can be a great HC.  
yatqb : 1/13/2018 5:36 pm : link
That's why we have DG; to determine who has the qualities he's looking for. But it's a guessing game until they do it.

Nonetheless, I think that all three of the named guys bring a lot to the table.
The Coordinators will be even more important  
Simms11 : 1/13/2018 5:39 pm : link
IMO.
Del rio?  
Jolly Blue Giant : 1/13/2018 5:44 pm : link
Haven’t heard his name anywhere.
I'm not sold on Patricia either for the reason you mentioned  
Blue21 : 1/13/2018 5:48 pm : link
And not sold on McDaniels for the same reason. But...I think for what's available they brought in some good choices including the Pats coaches. Shurmur or Wilks yes. But what the hell do I know.
Great insight  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2018 5:52 pm : link
This whole BB thing is lame and tiresome. Anyone have a new thought or just recycling the same song and dance?
_________  
I am Ninja : 1/13/2018 5:52 pm : link
I love the people who dont want Patricia because hes been Belichicks DC. By that logic, any person who coaches on BBs staff cant be a good coach. Surely nobodys stupid enough to think that. Knock the guy if you want, idgaf, hes not my daddy or my brother,but knock the GUY. What is it about HIM you dont like? If your knowledge of him is limited to, "NE DC", dont bother wasting our time with your "opinion."
And the pool is plenty strong  
UConn4523 : 1/13/2018 5:53 pm : link
people just want shit to bitch about. Some of these guys are going to have really good careers leading a team.
Dan Quinn was only a DC for 2 years......  
Simms11 : 1/13/2018 6:09 pm : link
Before going to Atlanta. You just never know. You have to consider and keep in mind the qualities desired. Sometimes all the extra experience does not make a lot of difference. I just don’t think they want another McAdoo situation and are more risk averse this time. Not necessarily a good thing, but I think that’s where we’re at with the owners.
RE: And the pool is plenty strong  
TheMick7 : 1/13/2018 6:11 pm : link
In comment 13786201 UConn4523 said:
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people just want shit to bitch about. Some of these guys are going to have really good careers leading a team.


This!
Crap!  
Dr. D : 1/13/2018 6:58 pm : link
I was feeling pretty good about Patricia..
until this.
RE: HC pool  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/13/2018 7:01 pm : link
In comment 13786091 jbeintherockies said:
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It really isn't a strong HC pool to choose from.

Remember when you said Belichick had never won anything without any of Parcells' assistants? You lost your vote at that moment.
well  
Simms : 1/13/2018 7:16 pm : link
I am not sold on any of the touted quarterbacks.
Patricia may go to the Lions with his former NE boss  
joe48 : 1/13/2018 7:31 pm : link
Lions have a franchise QB.
RE: _________  
paesan98 : 1/13/2018 8:53 pm : link
In comment 13786200 I am Ninja said:
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I love the people who dont want Patricia because hes been Belichicks DC. By that logic, any person who coaches on BBs staff cant be a good coach. Surely nobodys stupid enough to think that. Knock the guy if you want, idgaf, hes not my daddy or my brother,but knock the GUY. What is it about HIM you dont like? If your knowledge of him is limited to, "NE DC", dont bother wasting our time with your "opinion."


DING DING DING DING DING!!!! Give that man a cigar!
RE: _________  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/13/2018 9:58 pm : link
In comment 13786200 I am Ninja said:
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I love the people who dont want Patricia because hes been Belichicks DC. By that logic, any person who coaches on BBs staff cant be a good coach. Surely nobodys stupid enough to think that. Knock the guy if you want, idgaf, hes not my daddy or my brother,but knock the GUY. What is it about HIM you dont like? If your knowledge of him is limited to, "NE DC", dont bother wasting our time with your "opinion."

Counterpoint: who on Belichick's staff has ever been a good coach?

I'm warming to the idea of Patricia, but let's not pretend like Belichick's coordinators haven't been a disaster in general when given their HC opportunities in the NFL.

But I suppose you don't "gaf" about that "opinion."
Plenty of people wanted bill O'Brien  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/13/2018 10:34 pm : link
If Saban wanted back in the NFL he'd have a job in eight seconds.

People keep citing all the failed Patriots head coaches and leaving out the ones that went on to succeed.
I agree MaineMike  
B in ALB : 1/13/2018 10:46 pm : link
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.
What Patricia does with this defense  
Alwaysblue22 : 1/13/2018 11:00 pm : link
Is very Impressive indeed. This is largely a no big star defense but they play LIKE A MACHINE.
the problem with the Belichick  
bluepepper : 1/13/2018 11:12 pm : link
assistants is that their resumes are inflated due to their association with the best coach ever. People look at the offense and defense and think wow those coordinators must be brilliant. But, no they don't have to be brilliant because the head coach is brilliant. The coordinators come and go and the Pats don't miss a beat. Guarantee you next year this time, Peter King will be writing about that great young defensive coordinator Brian Flores.

Doesn't mean that Patricia won't be a great HC but recognize that his reputation rests entirely on his work in NE where Belichick runs the show and succeeds no matter who his DC is. That gives some of us pause.
Before any decisions are made  
pjcas18 : 1/13/2018 11:22 pm : link
I'm pretty sure Gettleman and Patricia and probably Mara and Tisch, if Matt Patricia is the choice, will do that they can to sell MaineMike
RE: I have no idea  
SomeFan : 1/14/2018 12:23 am : link
In comment 13786100 MaineMike said:
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I guess the pool isn't strong... Not just hot on any of these guys...


We have to fucking hire someone. Your post is worthless
This whole no Pats coordinator can ever be good because of Belichick  
BestFeature : 1/14/2018 12:42 am : link
thing is ridiculous. Unless you think Belichick contributes to how bad his coordinators are as head coaches then this argument is nonsense. The idea that Belichick could never hire someone that will be a good head coach ever is laughable.
RE: Del rio?  
Ten Ton Hammer : 1/14/2018 12:48 am : link
In comment 13786188 Jolly Blue Giant said:
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Haven’t heard his name anywhere.


As head coach? Usually you get two chances. Oakland was his second chance. He's young enough that he may get one more shot, but he looks like a career coordinator.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 3:45 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
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Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Best post of the week.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 3:49 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
Quote:
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Post of the week.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 3:45 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
Quote:
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Best post of the week.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 3:46 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
Quote:
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Post of the week.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 3:47 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
Quote:
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Post of the week.
RE: I agree MaineMike  
Modus Operandi : 1/14/2018 4:33 am : link
In comment 13786700 B in ALB said:
Quote:
Patricia's defense has been absolutely horrific tonight.

Plus he has a beard and a hat.

And he's been Belichicks assistant coach.

I heard he went to RPI and he's some sort of fancy pants genius. Pffft. Whatever. Smash mouth! Physical and complimentary football!

What's he ever won in football anyways?

Dude is a loser. Coattail city.

Giants should never hire such an unqualified candidate.

So glad you're not sold because your expert opinion is huge. Thank you pal.


Post of the week.
Looks like the gerbils  
section125 : 1/14/2018 6:09 am : link
freaked out about 4:25 this morning..
RE: Dan Quinn was only a DC for 2 years......  
FStubbs : 1/14/2018 7:04 am : link
In comment 13786222 Simms11 said:
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Before going to Atlanta. You just never know. You have to consider and keep in mind the qualities desired. Sometimes all the extra experience does not make a lot of difference. I just don’t think they want another McAdoo situation and are more risk averse this time. Not necessarily a good thing, but I think that’s where we’re at with the owners.


I'm sure Atlanta fans feel real good about that hire now. :)
RE: Looks like the gerbils  
Gatorade Dunk : 1/14/2018 8:48 am : link
In comment 13786824 section125 said:
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freaked out about 4:25 this morning..

Or MO was really enthusiastic about that post.

BBI actually does that pretty regularly around 4am +/- 30 minutes. That's usually when the repeat posts occur.
I want McDaniel  
Chris L. : 1/14/2018 9:22 am : link
I think he would be a great fit with a young franchise quarterback. I also like that he has been a head coach already. I think guys are better prepared the second time around.
Shurmur is the QB whisperer  
GFAN52 : 1/14/2018 9:29 am : link
Is done it with multiple QBs.
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