So Snee at his best. Most explosive was Shawn Andrews. His body didn't hold up, but he physically dominated grown men.
Andrews was a tease. I was shocked when they announced that they were going to play him at LT but he didn't allow a sack despite being very rusty from all the time he missed. It sucks that his back didn't hold up. That would have been a great deal.
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
Best seats I ever had for a Giants game was the 2003 game vs. the Eagles where his leg got destroyed...was sitting several rows behind the Giants bench just off to one side, and saw the play happen right in front of us
The fact he came back from that to become one of the most dependable guys on our SB 42 championship team is nothing short of remarkable.
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
I'm thinking the exact same. Seubert for all went through, and came back from. Even if 86 could be included, I don't think there were any better than the others you mentioned. I do remember Brad Benson being one of the first OL to really get credit, mostly by John Madden, blood running down his face from the cut that wouldn't heal all year, and owning Dexter Manley.
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
For sure, but Seubert, Snee, Ohara, Diehl, and McKenzie were pretty awesome.
How about some William Roberts? I saw Bart Oates mentioned, how about Billy Ard?
But Seubert is also a favorite and Jumbo Elliott is from my alma mater (Sachem, not Michigan), so much love for him.
p.s.--Since we're naming all of the good ones, let's not forget Roman Oben. He was a helluva 3rd round pick for Big Blue!
I remember John Madden commenting on how he thought Seubert was going to be a really good player - during his rookie year before anyone knew who he was.
became the QB of the offensive line, I remembering watching a quick interview one day with Mike Golic who stated that Ohara would tell Eli in the huddle what line calls and adjustments to make to certain pass rushers.
Guy really came into his own after being a journeyman for so many years.
Kinda hoping this is the way the giants go in re-building the oline this year.
But Richie Seubert is one of my favorite Giants of all time. His 2008 season was amazing. Especially his performance in that Carolina game. He was playing out of his mind.
Seubert and Diehl for there versatility. Jumbo for the Sachem Â
I was most impressed with rob zatechka. not for what he did on the field, but he is probably the only former Giant in the last 30 years who went on to become a doctor.
while thinking about Seubert and Snee, and then Diehl, O'Hara and McKenzie, .....I just can't like any of the current crop of offensive lineman - Richburg, Pugh, Flowers, Jerry, Fluker, Hart, Jones. They just don't appear to like and play with each other they way Seubert, Snee, Diehl, O'Hara and McKenzie did ...
pretty sad -- the Giants have had some great offensive lineman over the years and this has been kinda lost -- much the same way as the team has lost
The current Dline has more of a Giants identity with Snacks and Tomlinson eating up the middle those guys provide leadership and work ethic -- but I don't really care as much for JPP and OV -- don't get me wrong, they both have their moments on the field -- but JPP seems more about JPP than the rest of the team, and OV seems really introverted
I remember John Madden commenting on how he thought Seubert was going to be a really good player - during his rookie year before anyone knew who he was.
During Seubert's rookie training camp, the OL coach (I forget who it was at the time) pulled Seubert aside to introduce him to Wellington Mara. That's when everyone knew there must be something special about this undrafted kid from Western Illinois University.
two guys that, one a late 5th round pick and the other undrafted, that not only elevated to starters on one of the best lines we ever had, but were guys that were incredible team leaders, and played multiple positions along the line. They were the ultimate utility players. Not to mention Seubert came back from a horrific injury which could have ended his career.
So it's easily Snee for me, but that entire Oline when they all played like every snap for 3 years straight or whatever was rediculous from top to bottom
4 all pro level players and 1 who was just very good
Oates was at the tail end of his giants career when I watched. So as a youngin, it was Elliott followed by years of futility. Stone was great, but Snee and McKenzie were my favorite. McKenzie is still the best giants tackle in my lifetime imo.
that some OL players were pissed because Flowers and Hart wouldn't do the Secret Santa - but cohesiveness is a big thing. I seem to remember Snee, Ohara, etc. used to tailgate after games with their families (or some kind of get together).
David Diehl...blue collar guy that did whatever was asked of him. Protected Eli all the way from the parking lot on game days
Gotta go with Diehl. 5th round draft pick. Started all 16 games as a rookie. Tough SOB. Played wherever he was asked and played admirably. Left tackle, right tackle, guard.
Honestly though, I’d say David Diehl.
Andrews was a tease. I was shocked when they announced that they were going to play him at LT but he didn't allow a sack despite being very rusty from all the time he missed. It sucks that his back didn't hold up. That would have been a great deal.
Third.
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
"Kareem! Is it on you?!?!?!?"
"All day! "
The fact he came back from that to become one of the most dependable guys on our SB 42 championship team is nothing short of remarkable.
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
I'm thinking the exact same. Seubert for all went through, and came back from. Even if 86 could be included, I don't think there were any better than the others you mentioned. I do remember Brad Benson being one of the first OL to really get credit, mostly by John Madden, blood running down his face from the cut that wouldn't heal all year, and owning Dexter Manley.
That’s just wrong.
McKenzie gets my vote.
Jumbo-Seubert-Oates-Snee-McKenzie.
Shawn Andrews wasn't here long but when that guy actually was healthy, he was awesome.
Mackenzie was another guy I loved when he was here.
One of Accorsi's best free agent signings and one of the best players at his position for a decade.
In all seriousness I was fond of Luke Lomas Stone Parker and Ziegler because that was the first time we had a line in some years
In all seriousness top 5:
5) William Roberts
4) Ron Stone
3) Dave Diehl
2) Brian Williams
1) Seubert
I'd go with Seubert as "favorite," but Jumbo, Diehl, others get a lot of admiration. 30 years goes back to 1988. So the '86 SB team isn't included but the '90 SB team is. Someone please go left to right on the '90 line?
Elliott-Roberts-Oates-Moore/Kratch-Riesenberg
How often does a team sign a new LT and LG in free agency and go to the Super Bowl that season? Hope for our chances this offseason?
How about some William Roberts? I saw Bart Oates mentioned, how about Billy Ard?
p.s.--Since we're naming all of the good ones, let's not forget Roman Oben. He was a helluva 3rd round pick for Big Blue!
Was the best player on the line, even with a dislocated shoulder and broken hand.
The Giants didn't like his "cornrow" haircut so they sent him off to the 49ers, where he was a Pro Bowler, the next year.
Jumbo all day!
Guy really came into his own after being a journeyman for so many years.
Kinda hoping this is the way the giants go in re-building the oline this year.
But Richie Seubert is one of my favorite Giants of all time. His 2008 season was amazing. Especially his performance in that Carolina game. He was playing out of his mind.
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I was most impressed with rob zatechka. not for what he did on the field, but he is probably the only former Giant in the last 30 years who went on to become a doctor.
pretty sad -- the Giants have had some great offensive lineman over the years and this has been kinda lost -- much the same way as the team has lost
The current Dline has more of a Giants identity with Snacks and Tomlinson eating up the middle those guys provide leadership and work ethic -- but I don't really care as much for JPP and OV -- don't get me wrong, they both have their moments on the field -- but JPP seems more about JPP than the rest of the team, and OV seems really introverted
Individual though? Jumbo Elliot. Haven't had a true shut-down LT since he left.
Figured out a way to hold enough, etc. at LT to help win a Superbowl with very little left in the tank.
5th rounder, no less.
McKenzie, Snee, Suerbert, and Ohara were all great.
4 all pro level players and 1 who was just very good
I'm guessing you never saw Jumbo Elliott play.
Gotta go with Diehl. 5th round draft pick. Started all 16 games as a rookie. Tough SOB. Played wherever he was asked and played admirably. Left tackle, right tackle, guard.
Power to the people.