24 hours ago, Eli was the only quarterback to go head-to-head against Tom Brady in the Super Bowl and win. And when Giants fans pointed to his postseason success and some moron shouted out, "What about Trent Dilfer? Are you saying he should be in the Hall of Fame," we should calmly answer, "Did Dilfer win MVP and lead a last minute game-winning drive? No? Then STFO."
Now when we talk about Eli's legacy, some mouth-breather can respond, "What about Nick Foles? Are you saying he should be in the Hall of Fame?" Sure, we can say Eli did it twice, but when if the Eagles keep Foles, Wentz goes down again next year, and the Eagles win again? Sure, we can point to Eli's career stats, but to most critics, Eli's interception total is the only stat worth talking about.
Like it or not, I think Eli's HOF chances took a hit last night.
We live this same story with Eli if he continues on.
The post makes zero sense.
Plus, this Pats team is probably their weakest outfit, defensively, of all their SB's teams.
It's not very good.
Everything we had is gone.
Eli being the only QB to beat Brady
Giants only team to beat Belichick
Eagles no Super Bowls
It's all gone.
Now compare that to the 2 teams Eli and the Giants beat. It's really no comparison especially XLII.
Everything we had is gone.
Eli being the only QB to beat Brady
Giants only team to beat Belichick
Eagles no Super Bowls
It's all gone.
+1000
^^ this
No, they were not. They were 18-0.
And that's a good point. They were 18-0, for that SB.
But making the HOF isn't just based on beating the Pats, twice, mind you.
Eli has the 2nd longest streak of starts - which shouldn't have been broken BTW.
And when you look at his statistical ranking, it's very impressive. Stats accumulator......well, sure. That's what happens when you never miss games.
Two SBs (versus anyone, what does it matter), and two SB MVPs, plus what he's done statistically.......how does this post even make sense?
I saw him dance though... he's no Patrick Swayze.
HoF voters will be looking at Eli's total body of work which includes beating quite possibly the best team ever in 2008 and repeating in 2012, as well as his philanthropy and clean record navigating the NY media. He's also not done playing yet.
Everything we had is gone.
Eli being the only QB to beat Brady
Giants only team to beat Belichick
Eagles no Super Bowls
It's all gone.
Dramatic much?
Everything we had is gone? Did they come take the trophies?
Outside of his commercial, nothing about last night had anything to do with Eli Manning.
Everything we had is gone.
Eli being the only QB to beat Brady
Giants only team to beat Belichick
Eagles no Super Bowls
It's all gone.
Oh, FFS.
People aren't saying Jeff Hostetler belonged in the HOF.
that crap was the gayest BS ever.
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game had no impact.
that crap was the gayest BS ever.
Not that there was anything wrong with it.
People aren't saying Jeff Hostetler belonged in the HOF.
Actually, good point.
Does Hos winning, and beating Buffalo, take away from Troy Aikman's three wins, two of which came against Buffalo?
Of course not...and why the logic fails miserably.
I want the Giants to win Lombardis. And I wanted the Eagles to never, ever win a Lombardi.
The unspeakable horror last night was the Eagles winning a Lombardi, not any perceived hit on the Giants' or Eli's legacy.
Besides, the Giants (with Eli) beat an 18-0 Patriots team that was way, way better that the 2017 Patriots. Eli actually had to beat a good defense.
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game had no impact.
that crap was the gayest BS ever.
Seriously. I cringed. Very uncomfortable watching it, partially due to 3-13.
Perfect analogy. The NFL downgraded itself last night to the Arena League. That game didn't resemble anything that I am interested in watching on a regular basis. If that's the NFL's future, I have better things to do with my time.
Foles got 41, so in comparison, Foles performance in one game scored about what Eli orchestrated in two. And again, Eli had a great defense getting him the ball more.
Nevertheless, Eli probably won’t be considered a great qb because his stats don’t reflect greatness. He is a good qb though.
Foles got 41, so in comparison, Foles performance in one game scored about what Eli orchestrated in two. And again, Eli had a great defense getting him the ball more.
Nevertheless, Eli probably won’t be considered a great qb because his stats don’t reflect greatness. He is a good qb though.
Eli's legacy is what it is. The rings are the rings, the Super Bowl wins are the Super Bowl wins, nobody's erasing those two episodes of "America's Game." The Eagles won, but "everything we had is gone" seems wrong to me.
But that being said, I don't see what Nick Foles defeating the 2017 Patriots has to do with Eli defeating the 2007 and 2011 Patriots. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if there is some slob HOF voter who does in fact use that as 'evidence' against Eli.
NE defense allowed 18.5 points per game, fifth best in the NFL this year. FYI, Philly was fourth best, 18.4.
I know they gave up some passing yards early in the season due to injuries and new players adjusting to new system, but 18.5 is pretty impressive. To get 41........wow