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#Mets in agreement with free-agent 3B Todd Frazier on two-year, $17M contract, sources tell The Athletic. Pending a physical.
We've added two late-inning bullpen pieces (Ramos was all about 2018), a solid OF, a solid IF, a solid bench piece, a bandaid in case Smith isnt ready...
Bring me a SP late on a steal and Im going to be thrilled.
As a Yankee fan, I had the same reservations about him Â
some of you have voiced here, but wound up pleasantly surprised. He seems rejuvenated playing close to home, was a clutch hitter with a lot of pop, and played a GREAT third base. Also became a team leader within days. Only downside is the "thumbs down" guy is a Mets fan, so be prepared for thousands of references, commercials, etc.
the most significant thing the Mets have done this offseason is with the coaching staff. Maybe now with Callaway, DiSarcina and Eiland instead of TC, old man Warthen and whoever the bench coach was, this dugout will be making better decisions.
Personnel additions, while not being earth-shattering, have been solid within the financial constraints of the asshole owners.
It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Suddenly a plus infield. He's an okay player and Rosario is still a ????
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
RE: As a Yankee fan, I had the same reservations about him Â
some of you have voiced here, but wound up pleasantly surprised. He seems rejuvenated playing close to home, was a clutch hitter with a lot of pop, and played a GREAT third base. Also became a team leader within days. Only downside is the "thumbs down" guy is a Mets fan, so be prepared for thousands of references, commercials, etc.
Same here. FWIW, I'd have been fine with the Yanks re-signing him until one of our younger guys is ready.
It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
being mentioned. I could feel the daggers sharpening if it had been Neil Walker (BRING BACK EVERY MET EVER) or Nunez (HIS DEFENSE SUCKS) or we gave up a ton for mediocre Harrison.
Suddenly a plus infield. He's an okay player and Rosario is still a ????
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
This is why no one takes you seriously around here.
You can't just cherry pick certain metrics that support your narrative and then shift goalposts whenever someone calls you out on it.
Are we better defensively after this move? Sure. Does adding Todd Frazier at 3B make this team a contender? No it does not.
Barely hit over .200 last year.. another low avg. power guy who doesn't get on base much.
Yay?
So what you are saying is...more of the same?
Sandy’s really thinking outside of the box. He’ll fit right in when he strikes out 150 times this season.
LOL, yep. This is the same hitter we keep pursuing.
Given the circumstances, lack of other players available at the position, etc. it's not awful - I'd just like to see a different approach to lineup construction - but I guess I'll be waiting a bit since our pipe has virtually no good hitting prospects left save for... maybe someone like Alonso?
some of you have voiced here, but wound up pleasantly surprised. He seems rejuvenated playing close to home, was a clutch hitter with a lot of pop, and played a GREAT third base. Also became a team leader within days. Only downside is the "thumbs down" guy is a Mets fan, so be prepared for thousands of references, commercials, etc.
It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
Suddenly a plus infield. He's an okay player and Rosario is still a ????
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
This is why no one takes you seriously around here.
You can't just cherry pick certain metrics that support your narrative and then shift goalposts whenever someone calls you out on it.
Are we better defensively after this move? Sure. Does adding Todd Frazier at 3B make this team a contender? No it does not.
Dude what the hell are you even talking about? Literally nothing you say makes a shred of sense.
It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
Zero injury history?
Cespedes missed like 60 games as recently as 2014.
Don't be fooled by the .213 batting average. A 14% walk rate pushes his on base percentage to .344, which is above average. He's also a good defender. He's at least a league average player at this point, probably slightly above average if he holds his 2017 production.
It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
Zero injury history?
Cespedes missed like 60 games as recently as 2014.
Im talking about catastrophic injuries. All players get banged up from time to time. We lost Familia/Thor basically for the year the third week in April. Those are catastrophic. We only signed Cespedes to a 100 million plus contract last year and everybody was DYING for us to get it done. His injury history wasnt a concern last year or we never would have given him that much money.
why not go root for someone else, and let us wallow in our misery?
Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't know it was unreasonable to have lost faith in a franchise that hasn't won a damn thing in over 30 years, has made the postseason in back to back seasons just ONE TIME IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY (no, a play-in game does not qualify) and has horrendous owners who have been bullshitting their fan base for years now.
I guess we're all supposed to just fall in line and accept mediocrity and give them a benefit of the doubt that they haven't earned.
Have won 3 titles since 2010. Sandy has won dick, put an awful product on the field, blown draft after draft and wasted any goodwill left between the club and fans.
So when I see him continue to add patches to what's an incredibly poorly built team, with no help on the horizon, excuse me when I don't jump over the moon.
Todd Frazier, in a vacuum, is a fine move. Todd Frazier isn't the point.
It’s a fine move for a team that playing for the hope Â
of making a wild card. He’s fine, but again, more of the same. If people are hoping for 35 to 40 HRs, you are going to be disappointed. He’s not in Cincinnati or Yankee Stadium anymore. And he’s only hit 30+ HRs twice in 7 years. And yeah, I know his home/away splits are identical but he’s now he has to play 80 games at CitiField. And, you know, he’s a Met so we have to take a little more off the top to pay for the “Wilpon Pennance.”
Hey I’m hopeful, as always. But the Mets have put me in the “I need to see it to believe it” territory. Fool me once shame on you, fool me 30 times shame on me.
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#Mets in agreement with free-agent 3B Todd Frazier on two-year, $17M contract, sources tell The Athletic. Pending a physical.
Yay?
He walks alot so his on base is better even though his batting average will be in the .220 to .240 range. He does have some pop in his bat still.
He stays on the field for the full seasons unlike previous Mets 3rd baseman.
A couple days ago.. we weren't signing Frazier or adding another 2B/3B... a month ago we had spent our last 10 million...
Yep. Still haven't learned their lesson.
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Yep. Still haven't learned their lesson.
You preferred Reyes starting? Who else was available? Moose? He's HR or nothing too. Do nothing and wait for Machado next year??
Bring me a SP late on a steal and Im going to be thrilled.
Hell yeah baby. Lynn/Cobb makes this offseason awesome IMO.
None of these guys are superstars. The superstar additions are coming in the form of Syndergaard, Familia, Cespedes, and hopefully Conforto in May.
Still needed solid players to supplement the roster however.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Also I wonder if Wright has informed the organization that he will announce his retirement shortly. Poor guy. Deserved better.
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
Yay?
So what you are saying is...more of the same?
Sandy’s really thinking outside of the box. He’ll fit right in when he strikes out 150 times this season.
Personnel additions, while not being earth-shattering, have been solid within the financial constraints of the asshole owners.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
Same here. FWIW, I'd have been fine with the Yanks re-signing him until one of our younger guys is ready.
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It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
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Suddenly a plus infield. He's an okay player and Rosario is still a ????
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
This is why no one takes you seriously around here.
You can't just cherry pick certain metrics that support your narrative and then shift goalposts whenever someone calls you out on it.
Are we better defensively after this move? Sure. Does adding Todd Frazier at 3B make this team a contender? No it does not.
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Barely hit over .200 last year.. another low avg. power guy who doesn't get on base much.
Yay?
So what you are saying is...more of the same?
Sandy’s really thinking outside of the box. He’ll fit right in when he strikes out 150 times this season.
LOL, yep. This is the same hitter we keep pursuing.
Given the circumstances, lack of other players available at the position, etc. it's not awful - I'd just like to see a different approach to lineup construction - but I guess I'll be waiting a bit since our pipe has virtually no good hitting prospects left save for... maybe someone like Alonso?
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It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
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Suddenly a plus infield. He's an okay player and Rosario is still a ????
This move in itself doesn't move the needle one bit.
I didnt say it was a plus infield. I said the left side of the infield is plus. Rosario, even as a shaky rookie, posted a positive DRS and UZR last year.
This is why no one takes you seriously around here.
You can't just cherry pick certain metrics that support your narrative and then shift goalposts whenever someone calls you out on it.
Are we better defensively after this move? Sure. Does adding Todd Frazier at 3B make this team a contender? No it does not.
Dude what the hell are you even talking about? Literally nothing you say makes a shred of sense.
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It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
Zero injury history?
Cespedes missed like 60 games as recently as 2014.
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It's not a terrible deal, I'm just not a big Todd Frazier guy. I don't think this really moves the needle much.
This is still likely going to be a "meh" team that misses the postseason.
I have zero faith in anything this org. does.
Like Ive said a million times. The Mets are going as far as their top 5 guys take them. That's the same as any competitive team in baseball. For us thats Thor, deGrom, Familia, Cespedes, and Conforto. Lose more than one of those to injury for the year and we are going to be in major trouble just like we were last year. How far are the Yankees going if they lose Judge and Stanton for the year in April? How far are the Nats going if they even lose one of Sherzer/Strasburg for the year in April? Doesn't mean you dont need good second tier/supporting cast members. Improving our D and improving the clubhouse while adding a little bit of pop back into the team isnt a bad thing. And it strengthens our bench by pushing Reyes there.
Every single one of those guys you named for us is coming off an injury or can't stop getting hurt.
Conforto isn't even going to be ready for the opener. Cespedes gets hurt every other time he runs to first base. Familia is coming off a year lost to injury, Syndergaard is coming off a year lost to injury, deGrom has had lat issues.
The odds of all 5 of those guys playing a full season is essentially zilch.
This isn't the case with every other team in baseball.
Even if the Nats lost Strasburg, I think they'd still be better than the Mets are.
First. I didnt say all 5. I said if the lost MORE THAN ONE. A good team should be able to handle losing ONE of their key players... although it's still difficult (imagine the Nats without Harper!). And yes they are coming off injuries but NONE had any injury histories prior to last year. Cespedes bulked up last year and that was a mistake... Supposedly he's taken a different approach this year and is much lighter. Syndergaard had a muscle injury that isnt re-ocurring.. Familia had a freak thing happen and he's already came back and showed his velocity late in the year.. Conforto is the big one but he's our best young hitter and possibly face of the franchise. We need him but we should be able to manage without him for a year or two. My point remains.. If you arent going to count on your superstars what are you supposed to count on? The Giants were completely finished last year the second Bumgarner went down.
Zero injury history?
Cespedes missed like 60 games as recently as 2014.
Im talking about catastrophic injuries. All players get banged up from time to time. We lost Familia/Thor basically for the year the third week in April. Those are catastrophic. We only signed Cespedes to a 100 million plus contract last year and everybody was DYING for us to get it done. His injury history wasnt a concern last year or we never would have given him that much money.
Oh, I'm sorry - I didn't know it was unreasonable to have lost faith in a franchise that hasn't won a damn thing in over 30 years, has made the postseason in back to back seasons just ONE TIME IN THEIR ENTIRE HISTORY (no, a play-in game does not qualify) and has horrendous owners who have been bullshitting their fan base for years now.
I guess we're all supposed to just fall in line and accept mediocrity and give them a benefit of the doubt that they haven't earned.
2014: 5.0
2015: 4.0
2016: 3.4
2017: 3.4
For 8 million bucks AAV on a 2 year deal.
So when I see him continue to add patches to what's an incredibly poorly built team, with no help on the horizon, excuse me when I don't jump over the moon.
Todd Frazier, in a vacuum, is a fine move. Todd Frazier isn't the point.
Hey I’m hopeful, as always. But the Mets have put me in the “I need to see it to believe it” territory. Fool me once shame on you, fool me 30 times shame on me.