For O lineman like Nelson, or Orlando Brown...that can help a lot right away, and these guys would have high grades and not simply be reach picks. There are several good backs who can improve our RB stable in the third round and below.I think free agency will help clarify how the Giants approach this draft in regard to linemen and Linebackers.
For me, I'll take a single stud over a stable of geldings any day.
He'd be a fraud if it was learned that he didn't actually have any sources.
TTH, I don't expect you to believe my word over Campbells. I've always been a relatively fly under the radar kinda guy but this misinformation these beats and draftniks are putting out has gotten waaaay out of control. Its unreal and I've been adamant about that all offseason so far and they've been wrong all offseason so far. But anyways, Campbell is a fraud. A few years ago, one regional I know called him "a cheap musty car salesman" lol. He claims he talks with GMs.. You know how hard it is to speak with a GM, they're practically untouchable during this time of year. They only speak when they want to and its not with guys like Charlie Campbell.
That's fair, and sure, now is the season for misinformation.
All it takes to be able to say you have a source is speaking to anyone who is employed with the franchise. If you got some gossip from the janitor, it can be hedged as a 'source'.
I haven't done any kind of research to confirm what he's saying, but I do think it's fair to look at leadership qualities, and I do think that coming from wealth can be a concern. Yes, it's true that players like Eli and Peyton overcame that stigma, but how did that happen?
Well, for starters Eli's leadership was not immediately well-received by everyone. Bash him all you want, but Tiki's comment on Eli's speech as "comical" goes to show that not every NFL player buys into the rich white boy as the kid to follow or look up to. How did Eli become an unquestioned leader? By winning and by his incredible work ethic. Without these things a rich kid might not be accepted as the leader of NFL players.
Is there a problem with Rosen's leadership ability? I don't know, but sometimes where there's smoke there's fire. I'm confident Dave Gettleman will do his due diligence on all of the prospects and won't make the mistake of putting his most important career decision on a kid who bears too much risk.
I don't like Rosen. Injury prone QB's coming out of college could be a disaster in the making. I think most USC QB's suck. Sam Darnold might not suck but I would be shocked if he comes in and turns out to be a franchise QB. Not sold on Mayfield. I agree he might be a great QB or a total bust. He doesn't seem to be a NYG player.
I think the NYG need to either bolster OL through UFA/draft or get a stud RB. My only issue with a RB is their limited shelf life BUT if they do what they say they are going to do and use UFA to bolster the line, Saquon Barkley could be a game changer. If they don't go in that direction, move to the back of top 10 and get OL + another 1st and maybe a 2nd and 3rd or 4th. I am sure a team in top 10 will want to move up (Jets?)
Have the Browns taking Barkley if so we have the pick of
the litter if they took a QB at two I would go Darnold but
I wouldn't mind dropping down a few slots getting Chub
then moving up for Smith LB Georgia or taking an O-lineman
we can't mess this up after taking Flowers and Apple .
I wish we knew more about Webb . Link - ( New Window )
You really should have to define why you've come to the conclusion
that he's injury prone and also recite what his injuries are if you're going to carry that opinion. He missed half a season to a shoulder injury that required surgery and what else?
He played all 13 games in 2015
He missed half a season to a shoulder injury that required surgery in 2016
He played 11 of 13 games in 2017
If it is Eli's team for two more years Barkley should be the pick. Go all in to win SB now. If they will pick a QB they should release/trade Eli. Let Rosen start and learn year one.
Drafting Rosen and playing Eli will get very ugly very quickly.
WE need more picks to bolster the pass blocking, run blocking and the running game. If we stay put and only get one player we will not make a playoff run this year. Worse yet if we stay put and only draft a QB in the top tier of talent who will be THIRD on the depth chart we will not see the playoffs for at least three years.It may tke that long before the duds on the current poor rushing and pass blocking o-line are replaced.
I'm thinking the Browns grab Darnold (dammit) and the Giants take Rosen. I like Rosen but I'm worried if he can possibly hold up in the NFL.
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Sources can be real and also be wrong.
He'd be a fraud if it was learned that he didn't actually have any sources.
TTH, I don't expect you to believe my word over Campbells. I've always been a relatively fly under the radar kinda guy but this misinformation these beats and draftniks are putting out has gotten waaaay out of control. Its unreal and I've been adamant about that all offseason so far and they've been wrong all offseason so far. But anyways, Campbell is a fraud. A few years ago, one regional I know called him "a cheap musty car salesman" lol. He claims he talks with GMs.. You know how hard it is to speak with a GM, they're practically untouchable during this time of year. They only speak when they want to and its not with guys like Charlie Campbell.
That's fair, and sure, now is the season for misinformation.
All it takes to be able to say you have a source is speaking to anyone who is employed with the franchise. If you got some gossip from the janitor, it can be hedged as a 'source'.
It's the worst draft website by far. Plus the guy hates the Giants and knocks their moves every year.
Well, for starters Eli's leadership was not immediately well-received by everyone. Bash him all you want, but Tiki's comment on Eli's speech as "comical" goes to show that not every NFL player buys into the rich white boy as the kid to follow or look up to. How did Eli become an unquestioned leader? By winning and by his incredible work ethic. Without these things a rich kid might not be accepted as the leader of NFL players.
Is there a problem with Rosen's leadership ability? I don't know, but sometimes where there's smoke there's fire. I'm confident Dave Gettleman will do his due diligence on all of the prospects and won't make the mistake of putting his most important career decision on a kid who bears too much risk.
I think the NYG need to either bolster OL through UFA/draft or get a stud RB. My only issue with a RB is their limited shelf life BUT if they do what they say they are going to do and use UFA to bolster the line, Saquon Barkley could be a game changer. If they don't go in that direction, move to the back of top 10 and get OL + another 1st and maybe a 2nd and 3rd or 4th. I am sure a team in top 10 will want to move up (Jets?)
the litter if they took a QB at two I would go Darnold but
I wouldn't mind dropping down a few slots getting Chub
then moving up for Smith LB Georgia or taking an O-lineman
we can't mess this up after taking Flowers and Apple .
I wish we knew more about Webb .
Link - ( New Window )
He played all 13 games in 2015
He missed half a season to a shoulder injury that required surgery in 2016
He played 11 of 13 games in 2017
Drafting Rosen and playing Eli will get very ugly very quickly.
Accurate, Mobile, leadership, field vision...