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ajr2456 : 2/7/2018 11:21 am
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is this one of those  
Rocky369 : 2/7/2018 11:24 am : link
blue horseshoe at the tick tock diner things?
And the return is?  
figgy2989 : 2/7/2018 11:25 am : link
.
as I wrote in the Knicks thread  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/7/2018 11:25 am : link
with KP out and no reason to win games, why not keep Willy and let him play as much as he wants?
For what  
Phil in LA : 2/7/2018 11:27 am : link
?
RE: as I wrote in the Knicks thread  
NoGainDayne : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
In comment 13825051 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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with KP out and no reason to win games, why not keep Willy and let him play as much as he wants?


You have to think this signals a massive rebuild.
RE: as I wrote in the Knicks thread  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
In comment 13825051 PaulBlakeTSU said:
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with KP out and no reason to win games, why not keep Willy and let him play as much as he wants?


Because it’s the Knicks. I’ll wait till the return by so much for that youth movement....
All I see is that the trade is being finalized but  
robbieballs2003 : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
no return yet.
RE: For what  
ajr2456 : 2/7/2018 11:28 am : link
In comment 13825055 Phil in LA said:
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?


Hasn't been said. The Hornets also have a ton of centers so I'm confused by this
the Knicks remain unbelievably stupid  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:30 am : link
No reason to trade WHG right now. None. God forbid you play a young player with promise when one of the guys ahead of him goes down for the season.

They're going to get virtually nothing of value for him. I'm completely certain of that.
Remember  
ryanmkeane : 2/7/2018 11:30 am : link
when Willy was "untouchable" on this board in a possible Irving trade? That was fun...
RE: RE: For what  
Mad Mike : 2/7/2018 11:30 am : link
In comment 13825063 ajr2456 said:
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Hasn't been said. The Hornets also have a ton of centers so I'm confused by this

Yeah, it's almost like they were pissed at him for some reason so sent him somewhere he'll have the same depth chart problems as he has here.
Two seconds  
ajr2456 : 2/7/2018 11:31 am : link
and Johnny O'Bryant
RE: the Knicks remain unbelievably stupid  
TyreeHelmet : 2/7/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 13825071 Greg from LI said:
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No reason to trade WHG right now. None. God forbid you play a young player with promise when one of the guys ahead of him goes down for the season.

They're going to get virtually nothing of value for him. I'm completely certain of that.


Also on locked up for the league min for another 2 years after this season. Trading him at his lowest value. You can’t make this up with the Knicks.
Johny O'Bryant  
Phil in LA : 2/7/2018 11:32 am : link
and 2 future 2's.
RE: Two seconds  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:32 am : link
In comment 13825077 ajr2456 said:
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and Johnny O'Bryant


Sounds about right.

Seriously, why should any of us bother with this franchise anymore????
.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:33 am : link
Wow.  
NoGainDayne : 2/7/2018 11:33 am : link
Gross.
What a freaking joke.  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:33 am : link
I hate this team.
What a clownshow  
Jon in NYC : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
.
Now that's dysfunctional  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
.
So Willy gets traded to a team with even more centers  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
Haha
I'm just in it for the laughs at this point.  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
Payton and Biyombo are next, fellas!
Being a Knicks fan means voluntarily being the "Ow, My Balls!" guy  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:34 am : link
from Idiocracy, every day until the end of time
ok I was wrong  
Pete44 : 2/7/2018 11:35 am : link
they are still dysfunctional
How does trading a young cost controlled player  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:35 am : link
signal a massive rebuild? If we traded Kanter or Lee, I could see that, but we just traded a 2nd year player who had a good rookie season for future assets. This signals incompetence, that's what it signals.
Eh  
ajr2456 : 2/7/2018 11:36 am : link
I think Willy is highly overrated by Knicks fans so this return might actually be good.
The only way this makes sense is if  
steve in ky : 2/7/2018 11:36 am : link
it becomes part of another trade.
So much for Parry being competent  
aimrocky : 2/7/2018 11:37 am : link
brutal deal...
traded for a guy who can't get off the bench  
rich in DC : 2/7/2018 11:37 am : link
and 2 second round picks.

Worse yet- if these are 2018 picks, they will be Cleveland's second rounder and Houston's second rounder- both end of the 2nd round picks...
The more things change,  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:38 am : link
the more they stay the same.
RE: Eh  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:38 am : link
In comment 13825103 ajr2456 said:
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I think Willy is highly overrated by Knicks fans so this return might actually be good.


I don't care how much you think we overrated WHG - this return sucks ass.
Odds of a 2nd rounder becoming an All Star is...  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
2.4%. That being said why make the trade? Dumb!
So,  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
instead of trading away a player that has no future with this team(Oquinn and/or Kanter) and creating minutes for a 2nd year cost controlled player, we gave away said 2nd year player for nothing. IN what world is that logical?
RE: Eh  
Ten Ton Hammer : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13825103 ajr2456 said:
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I think Willy is highly overrated by Knicks fans so this return might actually be good.


Well we won't find out since they stupidly refused to even give him a chance to be part of a rotation.
What happened to the first round pick or good young player?  
bceagle05 : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
Malik Monk or Dwayne Bacon? No issue. Johnny O'Bryant? Ridiculous.

Deal off Lee, Kanter, Jack and Lance and I'll feel better.
RE: The only way this makes sense is if  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13825107 steve in ky said:
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it becomes part of another trade.


Probably sending the 2nd round picks to Orlando for Payton
What??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/7/2018 11:40 am : link
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Eh
ajr2456 : 11:36 am : link : reply
I think Willy is highly overrated by Knicks fans so this return might actually be good.


When it all pans out, the return is likely to be close to zero. O'Bryant isn't even a good benchwarmer and even getting a serviceable reserve in the 2nd round is rare.
So where’s Kemba?  
Carl in CT : 2/7/2018 11:41 am : link
On his way?
RE: the Knicks remain unbelievably stupid  
Victor in CT : 2/7/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 13825071 Greg from LI said:
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No reason to trade WHG right now. None. God forbid you play a young player with promise when one of the guys ahead of him goes down for the season.

They're going to get virtually nothing of value for him. I'm completely certain of that.


This. The reign of error continues at MSG.And the Rangers would be there too if Sather didn't get a do over from the last lockout.
Picks are charlottes 2020 and 2021 2nd round picks  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:41 am : link
..
RE: RE: The only way this makes sense is if  
Canton : 2/7/2018 11:41 am : link
In comment 13825122 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13825107 steve in ky said:


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it becomes part of another trade.



Probably sending the 2nd round picks to Orlando for Payton


Only then Perry would be absolved
Nice return...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/7/2018 11:44 am : link
(dripping with sarcasm.)
There simply is no logic to this deal whatsoever  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:44 am : link
Even if you don't think Willy is that good.....even if you think he's not part of the future....this is an hideously bad deal. They gave him away for effectively nothing. Hell, if nothing else, play him the rest of the season and let him build some value, then trade him in the offseason.
I mean less than 24  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:44 am : link
hours ago a whole bunch of playing time just opened up in the frontcourt. Why not give Wily big minutes to try and increase his value? I'm not saying he's untouchable, but he's a guy you package with other assets and try to get a star. You don't just give away young talent. And that's exactly what this is - a giveaway. Even smart teams can go years without finding something decent in the second round. The Knicks manage to do this - and they deal him off for no good reason. How other times has a productive second rounder (first team all rookie) been traded for 2nd rounders in his second season while still on a great contract?
Meet the new stupidity,same as the old stupidity  
TheMick7 : 2/7/2018 11:45 am : link
What a fucking dumpster fire Thought Perry would bring a new perspective...wishful fucking thinking 23 yr old 1st team rookie team last year,great contract and they get 2 future 2's not until '20,'21 & the immortal Johnny O'Bryant who now joins his 4th team!
basically what I said:  
Enzo : 2/7/2018 11:46 am : link
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What are the Knicks thinking?

Teams pray that second-round picks become first-team All-Rookie, as Willy did last season.

When that rare feat is accomplished, you don't trade that player for another second-round pick.
I think they got market value for him  
Heisenberg : 2/7/2018 11:47 am : link
Problem is, given that's market value, they should have just kept him.
I think I'm about done  
Greg from LI : 2/7/2018 11:47 am : link
In the long history of Knicks ineptitude, this is merely a drop in the bucket, but I think this is a straw breaking the camel's back moment. The team is terrible. The one bright spot just tore his knee up. The new GM has just proven to be every bit as incompetent as the clowns who preceded him. I derive nothing but misery from following the Knicks. Why bother? For the foreseeable future, I'm just watching college ball.
According to begely  
nygiants16 : 2/7/2018 11:49 am : link
Knicks taking calls on oquinn and Lee..
This is essentially a salary dump  
Keith : 2/7/2018 11:49 am : link
of a player that makes no money. Dumbest team ever.
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