It seems like the Redskins traded for an older version of Kirk Cousins.
But there are some slight differences, if you look a little closer.
Alex seems quite a bit more mobile.
He also took a 2-14 KC team & helped turn them into a consistent Playoff team.
While the Skins progressively got worse from yr to yr.
I almost feel like Alex should be getting the money, that Cousins is demanding right now.
Am I wrong?
Someone explain this to me, so I can better understand.
Smith tends to be better in that regard, but his skill set is limited. He often comes up small in big spots, not sure wtf the Redskins are thinking. Higher floor, lower ceiling. imv.
Will Smith be able to perform at a similar level that Cousins has proven over the past three years. Or will it take several years for him to perfect Gruden's offense, like it took him 5 years to get Reid's offense.
On paper, at best it's a lateral move. At worst, the Redskins offense took a step or two back.
I think Smith is a winner, but his ceiling was shown. It was this past year. New team, players, system. I am thinking it will at best be the same, with a strong likilhood that it will turn out worse for Washington, especially in the short-term.
As head scratching a personnel move as I can remember. Hail to the Redskins!
Kirk Cousins, I think, will go to another team this spring and turn out to be shitty.
Smith is expensive, but Cousins was going to be expensive too.
To get better, sell more tickets, sell more merchandise, get into the playoffs, etc. I know fans want a SB or bust, but relevance is huge, which the Skins aren't.
That said, this doesn't make them any more relevant than they were and they paid dearly for that.
I would take my chances with Cousins based on that far sooner than I would Alex Smith.
Cousins can make throws Smith cannot. Neither do a whole lot for overall though.
So even though I say not much of a difference either way, if I had a choice between the two I'd go with the younger player who's not on his third team and has spent a majority of his career trying to be replaced. So I'll say slightly worse... but not enough for it to really mean anything.
Since he will be playing in Washington and the NFC East I think that he will struggle
Smith is a talented QB and I expect him to start out strong but to wane as the season progresses
The dumbest part of this was the Skins traded a very good CB as well.
On defense, I don't like the move of giving up Fuller (as a Giants fan I don't mind it), but he is somewhat replaceable. They have Fabian Moreau who I liked in the draft last year on the roster, as well as Josh Norman and possibly re-signing Breeland
And one more little thing. The Giants have owned him over the years. Even last year when the Giants could do nothing else right, they still kicked his ass.
Will Smith be able to perform at a similar level that Cousins has proven over the past three years. Or will it take several years for him to perfect Gruden's offense, like it took him 5 years to get Reid's offense.
On paper, at best it's a lateral move. At worst, the Redskins offense took a step or two back.
Cousins threw 100 times more than Alex Smith, so that factors into the reason Cousins has more yards than Alex. Giants' fans overrate throwing yards because that's an excuse used for Eli. Matt Stafford has HOF level throwing yards and he's not a top 10 QB.
On a comparative per throw basis, Alex Smith is actually more efficient than Cousins. He's also cheaper. So the Redskins are better.
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Kirk has had a minimum 4k passing and 25+ passing TDs every year. Smith has only done it once, the past year, after spending 5 years in Andy Reid's offense.
Will Smith be able to perform at a similar level that Cousins has proven over the past three years. Or will it take several years for him to perfect Gruden's offense, like it took him 5 years to get Reid's offense.
On paper, at best it's a lateral move. At worst, the Redskins offense took a step or two back.
Cousins threw 100 times more than Alex Smith, so that factors into the reason Cousins has more yards than Alex. Giants' fans overrate throwing yards because that's an excuse used for Eli. Matt Stafford has HOF level throwing yards and he's not a top 10 QB.
On a comparative per throw basis, Alex Smith is actually more efficient than Cousins. He's also cheaper. So the Redskins are better.
How many Tyree Hill busted plays are you favoriting in? Smith doesn’t throw down field and Cousins does, to far inferior talent. I don’t like Cousins but saying Smith is more efficient on a yardage basis is bullshit. He’s a dunk and dunk passer who happened to play in a great offense with 3 really good skill players in Hill Hunt and Kelce. Context is needed if you are going to rely on numbers to make an argument.
1) They are giving 5 years and guaranteeing $88M to a 34 year old player.
2) They gave up a 22 y.o. CB who rated in the top 10 in the league last year. Even if you don’t buy the rating, everyone agrees he’s very good.
3) They gave up a 3rd round pick.
By any measure that makes them worse off. It’s a lot to pay for a relatively lateral move. It does buy them certainly at QB — assuming Smith is a good fit in the system and with the personnel, which is not guaranteed.
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Kirk has had a minimum 4k passing and 25+ passing TDs every year. Smith has only done it once, the past year, after spending 5 years in Andy Reid's offense.
Will Smith be able to perform at a similar level that Cousins has proven over the past three years. Or will it take several years for him to perfect Gruden's offense, like it took him 5 years to get Reid's offense.
On paper, at best it's a lateral move. At worst, the Redskins offense took a step or two back.
Cousins threw 100 times more than Alex Smith, so that factors into the reason Cousins has more yards than Alex. Giants' fans overrate throwing yards because that's an excuse used for Eli. Matt Stafford has HOF level throwing yards and he's not a top 10 QB.
On a comparative per throw basis, Alex Smith is actually more efficient than Cousins. He's also cheaper. So the Redskins are better.
How many Tyree Hill busted plays are you favoriting in? Smith doesn’t throw down field and Cousins does, to far inferior talent. I don’t like Cousins but saying Smith is more efficient on a yardage basis is bullshit. He’s a dunk and dunk passer who happened to play in a great offense with 3 really good skill players in Hill Hunt and Kelce. Context is needed if you are going to rely on numbers to make an argument.
Cousins in 2016 had weapons, including Desean Jackson, Jordan Reed, and Pierre Garcon. He was still less impressive than Alex Smith in 2017. So I don't see how Redskins aren't at least the same or better. Alex is more consistent than Cousins
Lastly, I’m not advocating for either QB. From a pure money standpoint Smith will command less than Cousins but they gave up more than money to get him. It’s likely a wash but Smith won’t elevate them because he has a limited skillset.
The relationship was already poisoned by how the franchise mishandled this. They started out negotiations by lowballing and showed no real confidence in his ability. They probably could have kept him with a little more talent in building a relationship.
Smith is on a new team now so we'll see if he can adapt but under no circumstances do I think smith struggles. He's a pro. I view smith as safer than cousins and with equal upside.
The problem with Smith is about beating Good teams----Smith needs games he can Manage. He lacks the Vertical threat. He can close out games his team plays well--- throuble playing from behind or trading scores.
The problem with Smith is about beating Good teams----Smith needs games he can Manage. He lacks the Vertical threat. He can close out games his team plays well--- throuble playing from behind or trading scores.
Upside? Cousins will be 30 next year. He is what he is.
With respect to the team, I think Alex Smith is an upgrade for the same reasons Joey in VA laid out. Alex Smith is not an attention whore like Cousins.
Being the incompetent DC team , they will franchise Cousins, hoping tp trade him.
Unfortunately, no team wants cousins at his 27M+ 4 year demand
DC team is stuck with 2 QB's @ 50M + destroying their salary cap.
Perfect!!
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Kirk has had a minimum 4k passing and 25+ passing TDs every year. Smith has only done it once, the past year, after spending 5 years in Andy Reid's offense.
Will Smith be able to perform at a similar level that Cousins has proven over the past three years. Or will it take several years for him to perfect Gruden's offense, like it took him 5 years to get Reid's offense.
On paper, at best it's a lateral move. At worst, the Redskins offense took a step or two back.
Cousins threw 100 times more than Alex Smith, so that factors into the reason Cousins has more yards than Alex. Giants' fans overrate throwing yards because that's an excuse used for Eli. Matt Stafford has HOF level throwing yards and he's not a top 10 QB.
On a comparative per throw basis, Alex Smith is actually more efficient than Cousins. He's also cheaper. So the Redskins are better.
Stafford isn't a top 10 QB? news to me
From there you have Wentz who’s a big ? post injury, Ryan, Newton, Stafford, Rivers. Goff needs another year before I’ll definitively add him in here.
Stafford is easy top 10 for me as I think he’s better than at least a few of the guys in that 2nd grouping, possibly better than all of them.
LONG LIVE DANNY!