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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 8:04 am
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#Clippers and #Cavs spent last night engaged in serious trade talks revolving DeAndre Jordan, per league source. Should a deal get done however, Clips are insisting it include the #Nets pick (which Dan Gilbert doesn't want to surrender). I'm told only the Cavs pick is on table.
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i would have loved to get Hood...  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 1:38 pm : link
and if UTA got nothing for him then i dont think we should expect a damn thing for Lee.

Im very impressed with CLE. They kept the Nets pick and got 3 youngsters with solid upside for a bunch of garbage vets and the current ghost of Isiah THomas
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Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 1:43 pm : link
Berman says Philly is mulling McBuckets.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 1:47 pm : link
They have a ton of second rounders, and Dougie's minutes have been greatly reduced. He's a RFA - might be wise to get something for him now.
Wooooooo, more second round picks!  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2018 1:50 pm : link
The Knicks are going to be hip-deep in undersized power forwards from the MWC and third-banana players from P5 schools!
Ha!  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 1:51 pm : link
Well I just want Dougie outta here before we match some $40 million RFA offer this summer.
RE: Wooooooo, more second round picks!  
Sgrcts : 2/8/2018 1:54 pm : link
In comment 13826600 Greg from LI said:
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The Knicks are going to be hip-deep in undersized power forwards from the MWC and third-banana players from P5 schools!


I mean its a lotto ticket, if the Knicks aren't going to resign Mcbuckets(which they shouldn't), then might as well get SOMETHING back.

DISCLAIMER: The Knicks wont be trading anyone, Hornacek needs all the weapons he has for their playoff run! WOOOOOOOO
One hour, boys!  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 1:59 pm : link
I'm holding tight to my prediction that the Knicks do absolutely nothing.
Yup  
GMEN46 : 2/8/2018 2:02 pm : link
Knicks already missed out in my option willy could have been traded for hood straight up rather then the crap that we got. Perry and Mills are morons. Lee should be gone even if it’s just for expirings and nothing else.
Knicks getting Mudiay  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:04 pm : link
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RE: Yup  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13826630 GMEN46 said:
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Knicks already missed out in my option willy could have been traded for hood straight up rather then the crap that we got. Perry and Mills are morons. Lee should be gone even if it’s just for expirings and nothing else.


You don't know that Utah had any interest in Willy at all.
RE: Knicks getting Mudiay  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:05 pm : link
In comment 13826633 ajr2456 said:
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My boy finally comes to the knicks!
Really incredible the Cavs can dump their entire  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:05 pm : link
shit supporting cast for a good return and the Knicks can't grab anything of modest value for Lee, O'Quinn, McDermott, etc. But I'll save my frustration for 3 p.m.
Geez..  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:05 pm : link
im fine with getting Mudiay, but we must really hate Frank, lol. I hope we didnt give up anyting. Kid still has some upside.
Spoke too soon.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
Mudiay has come to rescue us. Let's grab Hezonja while we're at it - stock up on that draft class.
McBuckets..  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
for Mudiay. I like it
Mcdermott going to dallas  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
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Turned Buckets into Mudiay  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
interesting.
RE: Geez..  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13826641 Italianju said:
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im fine with getting Mudiay, but we must really hate Frank, lol. I hope we didnt give up anyting. Kid still has some upside.


I dont think it says much about Frank. It's a good low risk move, but I had to assume this means Jack is done.
Hey that's not too bad!  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:09 pm : link
Mudiay's better than a second rounder or two for Dougie.
Would assume jack is going somehwere  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:10 pm : link
Don't need 4 point guards
this is a great upside trade...  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:10 pm : link
i liked mcbuckets but i didnt want to sign him for 8-10 mill a year. Mudiay has upside still.
Mudiay has been a big time disappointment,  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:11 pm : link
but def worth a shot for McBuckets. Have a few years of him cost controlled to see if we could develop him. He will look solid plastered to our bench behind Jack.
Knicks send future 2nd to denver  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
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Is Mudiay  
Pep22 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
in the final year of his deal? and an RFA?
Future second  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
going in the Mudiay deal.
RE: Mudiay has been a big time disappointment,  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13826669 Keith said:
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but def worth a shot for McBuckets. Have a few years of him cost controlled to see if we could develop him. He will look solid plastered to our bench behind Jack.


Mudiay has improved, he is shooting 37 percent from 3 this year
RE: Is Mudiay  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:12 pm : link
In comment 13826674 Pep22 said:
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in the final year of his deal? and an RFA?


Has another year
even with the second...  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:13 pm : link
im ok with it. Lets move Jack and lee and give all the guard minutes to Mudiay, Frank, Burke, and THJR.
RE: Would assume jack is going somehwere  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13826665 nygiants16 said:
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Don't need 4 point guards


Traded to Timbuktu Raiders for conditional 17th round pick.
RE: Future second  
Enzo : 2/8/2018 2:14 pm : link
In comment 13826675 ajr2456 said:
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going in the Mudiay deal.

well of course there is.
Hes only playing 17 mins per game  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:15 pm : link
and taking about 2.5 3's, but he has improved. Im hopeful and I think its a solid move, but hes been disappointing.
I guess (hope) that signals no Elfrid Payton.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:15 pm : link
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Mudiay  
djm : 2/8/2018 2:15 pm : link
has regressed if anything --he lost his starting job this season. Still, can't complain at all with this move. McDerment fucking sucked in my view. Not athletic. Decent shooter at times and decent size but he didn't use that size and his shooting was streaky at best. Limited player at best.
RE: RE: Mudiay has been a big time disappointment,  
djm : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13826678 nygiants16 said:
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In comment 13826669 Keith said:


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but def worth a shot for McBuckets. Have a few years of him cost controlled to see if we could develop him. He will look solid plastered to our bench behind Jack.



Mudiay has improved, he is shooting 37 percent from 3 this year


That's interesting and good to see.
RE: RE: Future second  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13826689 Enzo said:
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In comment 13826675 ajr2456 said:


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going in the Mudiay deal.


well of course there is.


Don't worry... we're going to trade Frank for 2 second rounders next year.
RE: RE: Future second  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13826689 Enzo said:
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In comment 13826675 ajr2456 said:


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going in the Mudiay deal.


well of course there is.


It's actually a pick swap. We give them Clippers second this year, we get Portlands second
even better. Just moving a little...  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:18 pm : link
bit back in the second round
Mudiay's FG numbers have improved  
djm : 2/8/2018 2:18 pm : link
so I guess I should take back my statement that he has regressed.

36% year 1
37% year 2
40% year 3

32% 3pt
31% 3pt
37% 3pt


Mudiay sttas - ( New Window )
RE: Mudiay  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13826698 djm said:
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has regressed if anything --he lost his starting job this season. Still, can't complain at all with this move. McDerment fucking sucked in my view. Not athletic. Decent shooter at times and decent size but he didn't use that size and his shooting was streaky at best. Limited player at best.


Getting a 21 year old guy who is athletic and might be helped with a change for a guy who you weren't bringing back is good.
at the very least  
djm : 2/8/2018 2:20 pm : link
Mudiay gives me a reason to watch.
McBuckets didn't suck at all  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:21 pm : link
and he's actually pretty athletic.
assuming jack and lee  
Italianju : 2/8/2018 2:22 pm : link
are gone there should be plenty of minutes for Mudiay, Frank, and Burke. Both Mudiay and Frank can play some 2. Now if we still have Lee or Hornacek does hornacek stuff and plays Ron Baker then minutes could be tricky, but id give the kids a chance.

Mudiay is one of those guys that everyone said is Raw and will need a couple years to develop (like Frank) and then when he struggled the first couple seasons everyone says "HE SUCKS". I never get that, ha.
Baker  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:23 pm : link
is out for the year.
Hope we get a borderline all star  
Carl in CT : 2/8/2018 2:24 pm : link
With one of the three young PGs.
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bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:29 pm : link
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@FisolaNYDN

The Knicks could have acquired Elfrid Payton, a Scott Perry favorite, but they would not include Frank Ntilikina in the deal with Orlando. Instead, they went after Mudiay.
Magic  
ajr2456 : 2/8/2018 2:29 pm : link
Wanted Frank in a Payton deal
RE: Lee contract  
dpinzow : 2/8/2018 2:29 pm : link
In comment 13826187 GMEN46 said:
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Isn’t horrible, but he is not moving the needle for any of these playoff teams. Additionally no one wants to give up 2019 cap space. I have a feeling all of the big guys with opt outs this year will opt in. Making 2019 arguably the greatest free agent class ever. Sucks to be a knicks fan as usual, hopefully we get lucky and get a top 5 pick this year and then next year is all but gaursnteed a top 5 pick. This is the reason to hold on to Noah. After next year he will be an expiring deal. I have no idea how good the 2019 draftclass is but that pick could be our ticket for a sign and trade to bring in a second max deal. If you can sign Irving oh can then package lottery pick and Noah for a stud. Those 2 players plus zinger and this years pick plus year 3 or frank. Now we are taking about something that could be good.


2019’s draft class could be really good...Zion, RJ Barrett, Cameron Reddish, Manute Bol’s son
Can move Frank now  
Carl in CT : 2/8/2018 2:31 pm : link
But it better be for a haul.
Courtney lee not being traded  
nygiants16 : 2/8/2018 2:44 pm : link
Hopefully move him draft time or during free agency
Don’t know if this happens but if the raptors get Deandre Jordan  
dpinzow : 2/8/2018 2:45 pm : link
for say, Valanciunas and picks, I think they win the east and can threaten GS or Houston in the finals
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