Alex Marvez
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Source tells @sportingnews that Kevin Stefanski will be either @vikings or @giants offensive coordinator.
Vikings could promote Kevin Stefanski to OC, play keep-away with Giants' top target - (
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Not for a promotion.
Priority 1 is to allow coaches to sign a futures contract with a. ew team before the season ends..this is a no brainer.
Priority 2 is to add Coordinator as a promotional tier. It just makes sense and can prevent guys from getting an opportunity unless their current team isn’t a bunch of dicks, and the stars align.
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hire Deflippo as OC and refuse to let Stefanski out of his contract?
Not for a promotion.
They can block Stefanski going to Giants. Unlikely they would, but they can.
QB coach to OC is not considered a promotion. DeFillippo was blocked last year from interviewing with the Jets
OC/DC or Position coach WITH Asst HC title attached
OC/DC
Position coach
Teams can block lateral moves only, not promotions.
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hire Deflippo as OC and refuse to let Stefanski out of his contract?
Not for a promotion.
False - teams only have no right to refuse if it is for a HC job. Teams can block position coaches from being interviewed for coordinator positions. They usually don't, but they can.
Eagles blocked Difilippo last year.
As a team, you can block those position coaches from interviewing, but do that too often and you are cutting your own throat.
if he knows he's the Giants first choice and the Vikings second he might
That being said, my guess (just a guess)
Defilippo goes to the Vikings for the above stated reasons.
Staley who seems quite popular in Philly with both the coaches and especially the players gets promoted to OC if Frank Reich goes to Indy. (Apparently it is Staley who gives a lot of the pre-game motivational speeches).
Stefanski to the Giants.
Is his relationship with Shurmur better than Zimmer...if they jive well and he thinks they can be successful together as evidenced last year, that could be the deciding factor.
You can argue the Giants (pre FA/Draft) have a more ideal situation to build from with a QB actually under contract, and a higher draft status.
Just playing devils advocate...
I think it really hurts guys when they're looking for HC jobs. If you're OC but the HC calls the plays, people think it's the HC's offense not yours so you don't get credit. On top of that it's surely less satisfying work to game plan all week but then watch somebody else call the plays on Sunday.
Plus let the eagles lose Reich
We may be second fiddle but that’s just fine. I am not sure if I’d favor the experienced coordinator who demands a larger role or a younger coach on the rise. Shurmur knows all the stakeholders ... it’ll work out
Is his relationship with Shurmur better than Zimmer...if they jive well and he thinks they can be successful together as evidenced last year, that could be the deciding factor.
You can argue the Giants (pre FA/Draft) have a more ideal situation to build from with a QB actually under contract, and a higher draft status.
Just playing devils advocate...
The play calling variable is probably the only reason he hasn’t taken the Giants job. He’s a young guy, probably wants to wait and see if he can get an OC job with that responsibility before taking one without it, And since Shurmur is calling the plays, and it’s his offense he’s probably in no rush to make the hire. Willing to let it play out
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How important are play calling duties? I would think game planning is a larger responsibility than some give credit for and is it really that much of a deal breaker?
Is his relationship with Shurmur better than Zimmer...if they jive well and he thinks they can be successful together as evidenced last year, that could be the deciding factor.
You can argue the Giants (pre FA/Draft) have a more ideal situation to build from with a QB actually under contract, and a higher draft status.
Just playing devils advocate...
The play calling variable is probably the only reason he hasn’t taken the Giants job. He’s a young guy, probably wants to wait and see if he can get an OC job with that responsibility before taking one without it, And since Shurmur is calling the plays, and it’s his offense he’s probably in no rush to make the hire. Willing to let it play out
Being an OC calling the plays also makes it easier to get a HC job. If you aren't calling the plays as a coordinator you basically need to have a top unit, demonstrated progress of that unit with you as coordinator, and nail your interview. If you call the plays it gives you a little more leeway in any one of those areas
I see things like that said here all of the time. I think that is BS. What makes this place the dream job? I don't think it is unless you grew up a Giants fan.
Is his relationship with Shurmur better than Zimmer...if they jive well and he thinks they can be successful together as evidenced last year, that could be the deciding factor.
Agree. I think this decision ultimately comes down to who he wants to work with, Shurmur or Zimmer.
It's a no-brainer for him from a career standpoint. Be the OC and playcaller for a defensive minded HC? Or be 2nd in command of the offense for an offensive minded HC? Nevermind the fact that he may have a family that he's hesitant about uprooting every couple of years. No-brainer and you shouldn't take it remotely personal as a Giants fan.
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Actually, if Steph preferred Shurmur, this would be a done deal already, right? So it seems to me that Steph prefers the potential Zimmer job. Hence his wait for the Vike's OC search to complete. If he wanted to be here, he would be here already. So we are his Plan B if the source cited is correct. Not sure how I feel about that.
It's a no-brainer for him from a career standpoint. Be the OC and playcaller for a defensive minded HC? Or be 2nd in command of the offense for an offensive minded HC? Nevermind the fact that he may have a family that he's hesitant about uprooting every couple of years. No-brainer and you shouldn't take it remotely personal as a Giants fan.
Article says Vikings aren't releasing Steph from his contract until DeFillapano interviews with Vikings and they decide to hire him. Sounds like Steph is plan B for them or they unsure until they finish interview process before they determine which one and don't want to lose one of their possible choices. Steph or possibly Defillapano must be choice #1 for Giants if they are willing to wait this long.
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In comment 13826692 Mike in Prescott said:
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Actually, if Steph preferred Shurmur, this would be a done deal already, right? So it seems to me that Steph prefers the potential Zimmer job. Hence his wait for the Vike's OC search to complete. If he wanted to be here, he would be here already. So we are his Plan B if the source cited is correct. Not sure how I feel about that.
It's a no-brainer for him from a career standpoint. Be the OC and playcaller for a defensive minded HC? Or be 2nd in command of the offense for an offensive minded HC? Nevermind the fact that he may have a family that he's hesitant about uprooting every couple of years. No-brainer and you shouldn't take it remotely personal as a Giants fan.
Article says Vikings aren't releasing Steph from his contract until DeFillapano interviews with Vikings and they decide to hire him. Sounds like Steph is plan B for them or they unsure until they finish interview process before they determine which one and don't want to lose one of their possible choices. Steph or possibly Defillapano must be choice #1 for Giants if they are willing to wait this long.
I understand that. I was referring to Plan C.
I get not wanting to move your family, but being a NFL coach seems like a really poor job choice if stability in where you live is a high priority for you.
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In comment 13826692 Mike in Prescott said:
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Actually, if Steph preferred Shurmur, this would be a done deal already, right? So it seems to me that Steph prefers the potential Zimmer job. Hence his wait for the Vike's OC search to complete. If he wanted to be here, he would be here already. So we are his Plan B if the source cited is correct. Not sure how I feel about that.
It's a no-brainer for him from a career standpoint. Be the OC and playcaller for a defensive minded HC? Or be 2nd in command of the offense for an offensive minded HC? Nevermind the fact that he may have a family that he's hesitant about uprooting every couple of years. No-brainer and you shouldn't take it remotely personal as a Giants fan.
Article says Vikings aren't releasing Steph from his contract until DeFillapano interviews with Vikings and they decide to hire him. Sounds like Steph is plan B for them or they unsure until they finish interview process before they determine which one and don't want to lose one of their possible choices. Steph or possibly Defillapano must be choice #1 for Giants if they are willing to wait this long.
Steph and DeFillapano... interesting. To borrow from the old joke about Terry Bradshaw, BBI couldn't spell CAT if you spotted them the C and the A.
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In comment 13826692 Mike in Prescott said:
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Actually, if Steph preferred Shurmur, this would be a done deal already, right? So it seems to me that Steph prefers the potential Zimmer job. Hence his wait for the Vike's OC search to complete. If he wanted to be here, he would be here already. So we are his Plan B if the source cited is correct. Not sure how I feel about that.
It's a no-brainer for him from a career standpoint. Be the OC and playcaller for a defensive minded HC? Or be 2nd in command of the offense for an offensive minded HC? Nevermind the fact that he may have a family that he's hesitant about uprooting every couple of years. No-brainer and you shouldn't take it remotely personal as a Giants fan.
Article says Vikings aren't releasing Steph from his contract until DeFillapano interviews with Vikings and they decide to hire him. Sounds like Steph is plan B for them or they unsure until they finish interview process before they determine which one and don't want to lose one of their possible choices. Steph or possibly Defillapano must be choice #1 for Giants if they are willing to wait this long.
Steph and DeFillapano... interesting. To borrow from the old joke about Terry Bradshaw, BBI couldn't spell CAT if you spotted them the C and the A.
LOL...I can laugh at myself. I've probably spelled there names wrong every time I've typed them. To be honest I never heard of them until the Giants got Shurmur. I probably got Shurmur wrong too a few times until they hired him. To lazy to keep looking up the correct spelling.
It's the content I worry about more than the spelling.