Barkley vs Michigan

Bad miss.. also just one play.

You can make all-time greats look bad with a SS this small.

In comment 13826373 arcarsenal said:

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Bad miss.. also just one play. You can make all-time greats look bad with a SS this small.

"Granted it’s one play, but there’s more of those scattered throughout his film. This one is the most egregious one."

With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL.

and it was two years ago.

This past year, he absolutely shredded an excellent Michigan defense.

In comment 13826377 ajr2456 said:

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In comment 13826373 arcarsenal said: Quote: Bad miss.. also just one play. You can make all-time greats look bad with a SS this small. "Granted it’s one play, but there’s more of those scattered throughout his film. This one is the most egregious one."

Really all that needs to be said.

It's one play.

Marshall Faulk and LaDanian Tomlinson probably missed running lanes sometimes too.

Highlighting one bad play from two years ago? You can find a few bad plays from every player in this draft.

What was the point?

What did he ever do to you?

In comment 13826409 Brown Recluse said:

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What did he ever do to you?

I don't.

When concerns about him were brought up Barkley people shot them down like they didn't exist. Here's the evidence.

And like I said it's one play, but there's more of these.

You can probably find about 100 plays where he displayed great vision. I am not going to get too worried about him missing a hole 2-3 times.

In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said:

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With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL.

He does what he can to avoid contact. I don't know, maybe it's smart?

Qb Darnold is the only one I want

In comment 13826470 TC said:

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In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. He does what he can to avoid contact. I don't know, maybe it's smart?

There's also the fact that he doesn't go down easy when touched.

In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said:

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With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL.

I'm more concerned that this is absolutely false yet you keep repeating it because you really have no idea what you're talking about.

He’s a freak at RB but he also is raw at the position he is what he is not a top 5 back though imo

"He’s a freak at RB but he also is raw at the position." Holy incoherence, Batman!

not much sooner.

<sigh>

Some threads are unbelievable.

watching Earl Campbell get absolutely stoned by the Notre Dame defense in the Cotton Bowl back when Montana was the ND QB. At the time I thought that Campbell was not worth drafting. Guess I was wrong on that one! One game does not a RB make or break.

because I expected to see highlights of Barkley destroying Michigan this year, and not one of his plays in a game where Penn State was utterly destroyed by Michigan and couldn't do anything on offense.

had a lot of bad college tape too.

Barkley is special, he isn't perfect.

There isn't much more to analyze.

out of bounds for years and years! Still an all time great!

In comment 13826499 allstarjim said:

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In comment 13826470 TC said: Quote: In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. He does what he can to avoid contact. I don't know, maybe it's smart? There's also the fact that he doesn't go down easy when touched.

Sometimes he does. I can recall one run off tackle to his left where there were two tacklers waiting for him, and no means of escape. Much like a QB about to be sacked, he secured the ball and hit the dirt. Like I said, maybe it's smart.

And in fairness too him, Le'Veon Bell wasn't fond of trying to run through brick walls in school either. But he's a different player in the pros.

It's funny because the linked clip actually shows his ability just as much as it shows a mistake.

He misses a huge running lane and still gets all the way to the other side of the field on a cutback before he gets taken down.

Using this as some sort of indictment is silly.

I'm not even really an advocate of taking him @ 2 overall, but I think he's going to be pretty darn good.

In comment 13826509 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. I'm more concerned that this is absolutely false yet you keep repeating it because you really have no idea what you're talking about.

Engaging Stan in a football discussion is like asking your dog about thermodynamics. Sure it may be funny once in a while, but usually it's just pointless.

In comment 13826470 TC said:

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In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. He does what he can to avoid contact. I don't know, maybe it's smart?

All RB's do that, but eventually they get touched, and Barkley tends to go right down. Not so smart.

In comment 13826509 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. I'm more concerned that this is absolutely false yet you keep repeating it because you really have no idea what you're talking about.

It's absolutely true. Watch the games.

From Jon Ledyard:

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Talked about this with @NDTScouting some, but I really don't think Barkley's vision is the problem. It's his decision-making that is the issue. He sees it, he just decides he can do more if he improvises. And part of the problem is that he isn't a physical runner by nature.

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He'd rather get out on the perimeter then put his shoulder down and work through contact within structure. Barkley has always been able to play his way and survive (thrive even). He has almost no flaws outside of this, but that style will be in question vs NFL competition.

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Sometimes it is that, a lot of time it's just that he would rather try to out-athlete you than run through a tackle attempt. That's his preference. I'm not saying he's afraid of contact, but physicality is not his preferred style.Jon Ledyard added,

Going down easy, is the wrong way to put it.

In comment 13827008 Stan in LA said:

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Quote: More elusive than he is powerful. Has modest broken tackle numbers during his career at Penn State. Plays with inconsistent leg drive through contact when working between the tackles. Will need to develop a more north/south mindset as a pro. Doesn't always trust his run crease and will look to find side doors to bounce out of. Gets too cute with stutter-steps and jukes on first level allowing help to flow to the ball. Needs a little earlier commitment on stretch plays and sweeps rather than going through extended probing. Has bouts with focus drops as pass catcher and his catch radius is limited. Inconsistent at take-on blocks in pass protection.

you lost me at catch radius...one he isnt a WR, two...have you seen his one handed grab on the highlight real? the kid is just a special talent...overthinking and splitting hairs is silly...you think OBJ had perfect tape? he would be the first overall pick in that draft if it was redone imo

In comment 13826509 Gatorade Dunk said:

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In comment 13826387 Stan in LA said: Quote: With the fact he goes down easily when touched. Could be a problem in the NFL. I'm more concerned that this is absolutely false yet you keep repeating it because you really have no idea what you're talking about.

+1

actually say what you said. There is a difference between "goes down easy on contact" (what you said) and "needs to be more physical" (what the sckuts said). There comments in their entirety more corroborate the notion that he looks to avoid contact.

Coming soon.

Because I'm already mad that we likely won't have him on our team.