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NFT: Mudiay to Knicks

ryanmkeane : 2/8/2018 2:05 pm
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3 way deal...  
ryanmkeane : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
McDermott to Dallas and Harris to Denver
Rumors  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
are the Knicks gave up 3 firsts, including this years.
.  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:06 pm : link
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Denver, New York and Dallas agreed on a three-way deal, league sources tell ESPN. Mudiay to Knicks; Devin Harris to Denver and Doug McDermott to Dallas.
RE: Rumors  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13826645 Keith said:
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are the Knicks gave up 3 firsts, including this years.


That's a f*cking joke right?
RE: RE: Rumors  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13826653 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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are the Knicks gave up 3 firsts, including this years.



That's a f*cking joke right?


lol, yes.
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DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:08 pm : link
If that's the entire deal it's a no-.brainer for the Knicks (yes Mudiay has not been very good, or even good) #Knicks
RE: RE: RE: Rumors  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13826656 Keith said:
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In comment 13826645 Keith said:


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are the Knicks gave up 3 firsts, including this years.



That's a f*cking joke right?



lol, yes.


With the Knicks, you never know...
RE: RE: RE: Rumors  
Harvest Blend : 2/8/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13826656 Keith said:
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In comment 13826645 Keith said:


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are the Knicks gave up 3 firsts, including this years.



That's a f*cking joke right?



lol, yes.


That's borderline bannable. Made me do my Fred Sanford impression. :)
It's kinda sad  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:10 pm : link
that it's not out of the realm of a knicksism.

Can't argue with this  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2018 2:10 pm : link
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Trade  
Pete44 : 2/8/2018 2:14 pm : link
Unless there are some picks involved that are not reported, that sees like a good low risk move. I liked Mudiay in that draft.
someone tell me how I should feel  
tbonfig : 2/8/2018 2:14 pm : link
I know he's young and was a top 10 or so pick but isn't he a scrub?

Is this because of full on tank mode?
Future`  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:14 pm : link
2nd to Denver
RE: someone tell me how I should feel  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:15 pm : link
In comment 13826690 tbonfig said:
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I know he's young and was a top 10 or so pick but isn't he a scrub?

Is this because of full on tank mode?


He's been awful (biggest red flag is very poor defense despite being a plus plus athlete). Plus side is 37% from 3 (I was shocked) and an improved 12.5 PER.. still .31 WS/48... yuck
RE: Future`  
GFAN52 : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13826691 DanMetroMan said:
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2nd to Denver


Are you sure?
Nice use  
Pete44 : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
of a 2nd round pick. Mudiay is buried in Denver, still young.
RE: RE: Future`  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
In comment 13826701 GFAN52 said:
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2nd to Denver



Are you sure?


No but Woj is
I see he was the 7th pick of the draft in 2015..  
Sean : 2/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
With Frank, what are the plans with him?
Ugggh.  
Ira : 2/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
Among point guards, he has the lowest +/- of anyone in the league.
Have to think they have something lined up for Jack  
Jim in Fairfax : 2/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
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A good post-hype reclamation guy  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 2:18 pm : link
still has great athleticism and has shown improvement offensively
RE: Future`  
Canton : 2/8/2018 2:18 pm : link
In comment 13826691 DanMetroMan said:
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2nd to Denver


Dallas is acquiring 2nd round pick from Denver
He was a gamble on draft night  
Keith : 2/8/2018 2:19 pm : link
as a bit of an unknown and he's been a big disappointment in the NBA. He hasn't developed at all. His minutes were cut big time coming into this season. He's still young and on a rookie contract so it's worth the risk to bring him in and see if you could develop him. He has good physical attributes.
RE: RE: Future`  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13826718 Canton said:
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2nd to Denver



Dallas is acquiring 2nd round pick from Denver


This was the initial tweet,

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New York will send Denver a future second-round pick in the trade, league sources tell ESPN.

He then said

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Denver and New York was swapping second-round picks in the three-way trade, league sources tell ESPN. Denver gets New York's 2018 second-round pick via Clippers, and Knicks get Denver's second-round pick via Portland.
RE: RE: RE: Future`  
GFAN52 : 2/8/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13826705 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 13826691 DanMetroMan said:


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2nd to Denver



Are you sure?



No but Woj is


Nope you're incorrect, its a swap of picks.

Adrian Wojnarowski

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Denver and New York was swapping second-round picks in the three-way trade, league sources tell ESPN. Denver gets New York's 2018 second-round pick via Clippers, and Knicks get Denver's second-round pick via Portland.
2:16 PM - Feb 8, 2018
RE: someone tell me how I should feel  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 2:19 pm : link
In comment 13826690 tbonfig said:
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I know he's young and was a top 10 or so pick but isn't he a scrub?

Is this because of full on tank mode?


Its a good buy low player but hes been very bad. He doesnt really do anything well. Hopefully a change of scenery helps. Maybe Hornacek can help develop him...hahah.
Shams  
Canton : 2/8/2018 2:19 pm : link
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Sources: Dallas is also acquiring second-round pick from Denver in trade sending Emmanuel Mudiay to New York, Devin Harris to Denver, Doug McDermott to Mavs.
A great coach could make something of Mudiay  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2018 2:20 pm : link
Unfortunately, we have Hornacek, so....
Not A bad deal  
dk in TX : 2/8/2018 2:20 pm : link
for the Knicks.
So Knicks trade big men due to logjam  
tbonfig : 2/8/2018 2:20 pm : link
Only to create one at the guard position. Seems about right.

And a sweetner of a 2nd rounder which was so valuable yesterday in the Hernangomez trade.

Meh, this reeks of just garbage. Not a fan of the trade.

I am curious to see what other action the Knicks get in today.

At this point, although I enjoy watching them, I'd like to see some returns for Lee and KOQ.

Leave Kanter here, I think he can be part of the future.
So  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:21 pm : link
the Knicks currently would be picking

So the Knicks currently pick 38th and 49th in the 2nd round
Mudiay's FG numbers last 3 years  
djm : 2/8/2018 2:21 pm : link
36% year 1
37% year 2
40% year 3

32% 3pt
31% 3pt
37% 3pt
RE: RE: RE: RE: Future`  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:22 pm : link
In comment 13826725 GFAN52 said:
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In comment 13826701 GFAN52 said:


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In comment 13826691 DanMetroMan said:


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2nd to Denver



Are you sure?



No but Woj is



Nope you're incorrect, its a swap of picks.

Adrian Wojnarowski

@wojespn
Denver and New York was swapping second-round picks in the three-way trade, league sources tell ESPN. Denver gets New York's 2018 second-round pick via Clippers, and Knicks get Denver's second-round pick via Portland.
2:16 PM - Feb 8, 2018


Actually no I am not incorrect. Woj corrected himself. Again the initial tweet

"@wojespn
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New York will send Denver a future second-round pick in the trade, league sources tell ESPN."

I'm incorrect for stating something the original source had wrong? lol
Wow that's a great trade!  
DennyInDenville : 2/8/2018 2:22 pm : link
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Assuming  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:23 pm : link
Woj is now accurate

So the Knicks currently pick 38th and 49th in the 2nd round
I recall a lot of BBIers water Mudiay over Pozingis  
dk in TX : 2/8/2018 2:23 pm : link
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Trading McBuckets  
Mike in NY : 2/8/2018 2:23 pm : link
Opens up more playing time for Lance Thomas

Though with Trey Burke and Frank not sure where Mudiay gets minutes. Definitely has more upside than McDermott
RE: Mudiay's FG numbers last 3 years  
Canton : 2/8/2018 2:24 pm : link
In comment 13826740 djm said:
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36% year 1
37% year 2
40% year 3

32% 3pt
31% 3pt
37% 3pt


He may be a late bloomer. He's shown some improvement from his first year to his third.
Trade  
Pete44 : 2/8/2018 2:25 pm : link
This is a good trade, goes along with the Knicks becoming more athletic. Mudiay was a very good prospect and still is young enough to improve with proper coaching.

Thankfully, we did not give up a first rounder.
I recall a lot of BBIers water Mudiay over Pozingis  
dk in TX : 2/8/2018 2:25 pm : link
In the 2015 draft.
Mudiay is the most athletic guard on the team  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 2:25 pm : link
and it's not really close. Can't argue with this deal at all. I love McBuckets but Mudiay can still develop. I like it.
You don't see where Mudiay gets minutes over...Trey Burke?  
Greg from LI : 2/8/2018 2:26 pm : link
haaahahahaha...you're not serious, are you?
RE: RE: Mudiay's FG numbers last 3 years  
Heisenberg : 2/8/2018 2:26 pm : link
In comment 13826753 Canton said:
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36% year 1
37% year 2
40% year 3

32% 3pt
31% 3pt
37% 3pt



He may be a late bloomer. He's shown some improvement from his first year to his third.



Shooting 80% from FT, so it's not like he's a bad shooter in general. Could be shot selection and some mechanical stuff that is something that can improve.
2nd round swap  
TyreeHelmet : 2/8/2018 2:27 pm : link
Im confused what pick is being swapped? Not the Bulls we got in the Melo deal right?
Bottom  
DanMetroMan : 2/8/2018 2:27 pm : link
line is next years team won't have high hopes with KP?? So paying Dougie didn't make a ton of sense. Mudiay isn't restricted until after NEXT season so worthy gamble.
RE: I recall a lot of BBIers water Mudiay over Pozingis  
DennyInDenville : 2/8/2018 2:28 pm : link
In comment 13826756 dk in TX said:
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In the 2015 draft.

I was one of them . KAT, Mudiay, KP was my top 3
We need to dump Jack so Hornacek doesn't continue playing him.  
bceagle05 : 2/8/2018 2:28 pm : link
Like in "Moneyball" when Billy Beane trading the other 1B options so Art Howe had to play Hatteberg.
Frank Isola  
Canton : 2/8/2018 2:28 pm : link
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The Knicks could have acquired Elfrid Payton, a Scott Perry favorite, but they would not include Frank Ntilikina in the deal with Orlando. Instead, they went after Mudiay.
Always been a fan of Mudiay  
ghost718 : 2/8/2018 2:28 pm : link
So I won't get to use the sledgehammer today
I like the trade despite the fact I read an article earlier this  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 2/8/2018 2:28 pm : link
season single-handedly blaming Mudiay for Nikola Jokic's early season struggles.
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