The majority of these Canadian women play hockey in the USA. Could we maybe leverage the USA hockey framework and get the gold for once?
The men; forget it.
Trying to find Slovenia on the map...
Props to NBC for trying to spotlight Chris Bourque as something other than an aging minor-league journeyman. The son of Ray Bourque? Here comes the gold!
Canada for the Gold the past four hockey world cups - not sure we need to copy anything from the Canadian model.
it's just been the Olympics that have been a problem.
I still expect USA vs Canada in the women's final.
the men is just not interesting. Not even like a young team of hungry college kids, it's a bunch of has-beens (Gionta), journeymen, and just minor league hockey players.
not even interesting. for any teams (it's not just the US).
they aren't even televising the USA vs. Slovakia game?!
NBC and NBCSN are showing the same men's figure skating program?!!? NBCSN is showing the live competition. NBC is showing the same competition but on tape delay.
morning (7am EST) is another Olympic hockey showdown between Team USA and The Soviet Uni...er Russ...uh Team OAR. It should be "A Crazy Game of Hockey."
figure skating right now, American Nathan Chen, who screwed up in the short program and came in at 17th, landed six quad jumps in the long program to make a huge comeback. Apparently, no one has ever even attempted more than five. If a few of the favorites screw up he could win a medal.
US could not deal with the OAR speed, and is just not a good team. Datsyuk and Kovalchuk with some has-beens could have won. US all but eliminated now. Win or go in.
US goalie stinks too.
Most Hockey East college teams could beat them I think and some of the ECAC teams too.
"all but eliminated" and also win or go home. Every team is in the same boat. Their next loss will send them out.
Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.
except the teams that finished in the top 2 of their 4 team brackets. The US finished behind Slovenia. Slovenia.
they're in the playoff round, the top 4 get byes. they need to win to get into the quarterfinals.
they're done.
worst US Olympic team ever all things considered IMO.
the 2006 team I think had the worst finish, 8th place (and one of the 90's teams, maybe 1994 before pros went - but a good friend of mine was on that team so I give them a pass), but consider Brian Gionta was on that team in 2006. He's on this one too, LOL - and he wasn't young then.
are acting like the US team was expected to be gold medalists. Most didn't even project them to medal.
I didn't expect anything. I predicted before the Olympics started that the US would be awful. And the whole men's bracket would be awful. Outside of some spurts there just isn't inspired hockey being played. It's like Men's league with a few ringers.
Still doesn't mean I can't call them out for being awful.
and while I didn't expect the US to be in contention, I didn't expect them to lose to Slovenia either or get beaten out in their bracket by Slovenia.
I would have rather the US built a team of all college kids if NHL players weren't competing.
this team is just unlikable outside of Greenway and normally I'd like Donato but he's a future Bruin.
it's just not a group of players that inspire me with their play and I'm not looking for another miracle on ice, the USA has had plenty of olympic teams between 1980 and Nagano (when pros started playing) that didn't win, but still inspired.
The team is built on mostly journeymen, it's I believe the oldest Olympic hockey team the US has ever had. and personally, I'd prefer they built the team with kids that had some upside or at least a future in hockey instead of primarily journeymen.
there is nothing inspiring (to me) to watch this US team. I've already said it previously the only players I see a lot of emotion/intensity from are Greenway and Donato (two of the three or four college kids on the team).
I'd rather see the US junior team from the World Cup this past January play here, I bet they'd do better.
of course though those are the best women's hockey players on the planet (collectively, not just USA) unlike the Men.
US women to the gold medal game after crushing Finland 5 - 0 , 10:45 pm on Wednesday. They play the winner of Canada vs Russia on now (Canada cruising 4 - 0).
This will be the third consecutive Olympics where the USA and Canada women have played for the gold, with Canada winning the first 2 (while the USA has beaten Canada for the gold in the last three world cups).
So far that game is the most interesting thing of the Olympics for me.
Men play a rematch with Slovakia tonight at 10:10 to try and advance to the medal round. If USA wins they play the Czech republic tomorrow night same time. If they lose I believe it will be the worst ever Olympic finish for the men.
in this game, wouldn't be in this spot if they'd played like this against Slovenia.
Just 1 - 0 and the Slovaks ran the US goalie (not violently, but it injured the goalie) and a different guy on the same play cheap-shotted Donato (who has the US goal) with an elbow to the face.
US to go on a 5 - 3 PP, but maybe without their starting goalie in net.
from the US. Only thing bitter about this one is Ryan Donato is establishing himself as a bona fide NHL prospect, and he's a Boston Bruin draftee.
He was already a decent prospect, I mean he's 4th in the NCAA in goals, but man he's showing he's a complete player in this Olympics (albeit against competition that is slightly worse than he sees regularly even in the ECAC).
USA plays the Czech's tonight with the winner having the pleasure of a rematch vs OAR.
Glad to see the U.S. men win last night and look forward to the Czeck game tonight. Womens hockey has been great, too. Was impressed by the pairs ice dancing contest -- thought the fourth place U.S. pair was fantastic as well as the medalists, who were even better. Want to see Vonn win the downhill today and very, very sorry the schedule has been so collapsed by weather issues that Schiffrin had to pull out to concentrate on the combined. NBC has made it hard to follow everything properly. Olympics channel helps, but not much.
Go out there and take the Gold you've worked so long and hard for. Chillax & play your game. Bring home the gold girls!!!
Need a big game from Knight and a brick wall from Rooney!!!
Zagitova/Medvedeva: how many of the judges had ever read Anna Karenina and understood the theme underlying Medvedeva's performance? Not enough, I suspect. Audience reaction -- rejection of judges' final score for her -- was right on, IMHO. Could understandably have awarded golds to both and should have.
off Canada and the OAR beat the Czech's (another shutout) setting up a Germany vs OAR Gold Medal game.
What were the odds?
I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.
Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.
Hopefully Bettman realizes how much he screwed up here and the NHL players are back in 2022. The Winter Olympics just isn’t the same. In Sochi I remember wanting to watch every game, because most rosters had at least a few NHLers. Shit, I was watching the Norway games because of Zucc. This year, not so much. Aside from a few US games, I had no interest.
but he has some points and it's not him, it's the owners who decided this.
The biggest point for me was that the NHL is prohibited from using Olympic footage in their marketing.
For example, Crosby's Gold Medal game winner in Vancouver, while it was a garbage goal, was enormous in the moment and the NHL cannot use it to further their sport.
So when people say the NHL misses out on the best marketing event for their sport, I'm not sure I agree.
The best case for the NHL would be for Ice Hockey to be a summer olympic sport. I know this seems contradictory but it's played indoors, rinks have ice all summer and it wouldn't mess with the NHL season and force them to take two weeks off during their season and extend it farther out.
There's no doubt the hockey suffers in the Olympics, but at least I get the NHL perspective and I find it sort of hard to completely fault them.
VS. Sweden starts in about 2 and a half hours, Sat 1:35 am EST. Sweden has been playing lights out this tournament. It will most likely take a near flawless game from John Shuster and the American men to bring home the gold. But after the huge semi-final win over Canada it feels like we are playing with house money tonight. This will be the match of these men's lives, I really hope they leave it all on the ice. Let's go boys!
Huge shot for Shuster to score 5 in the 8th end. US now up 10-5. Shuster has disappointed in the past on key shots, but nailed this one. Got to hold on now.
Sweden up 4-1 over host South Korea in the 6th end after stealing a point in each of the last 2 ends. If Sweden holds on I will have nailed my prediction of Sweden over South Korea for gold in my semi serious curling preview thread. Women of Curling preview - ( New Window )
U.S. Women vs. Canada Preliminary
10:10 p.m. (Feb. 14)
The majority of these Canadian women play hockey in the USA. Could we maybe leverage the USA hockey framework and get the gold for once?
The men; forget it.
Trying to find Slovenia on the map...
Props to NBC for trying to spotlight Chris Bourque as something other than an aging minor-league journeyman. The son of Ray Bourque? Here comes the gold!
it's just been the Olympics that have been a problem.
I still expect USA vs Canada in the women's final.
the men is just not interesting. Not even like a young team of hungry college kids, it's a bunch of has-beens (Gionta), journeymen, and just minor league hockey players.
not even interesting. for any teams (it's not just the US).
NBC and NBCSN are showing the same men's figure skating program?!!? NBCSN is showing the live competition. NBC is showing the same competition but on tape delay.
WTF is going on here?
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US goalie stinks too.
Most Hockey East college teams could beat them I think and some of the ECAC teams too.
Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.
Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.
except the teams that finished in the top 2 of their 4 team brackets. The US finished behind Slovenia. Slovenia.
they're in the playoff round, the top 4 get byes. they need to win to get into the quarterfinals.
they're done.
worst US Olympic team ever all things considered IMO.
the 2006 team I think had the worst finish, 8th place (and one of the 90's teams, maybe 1994 before pros went - but a good friend of mine was on that team so I give them a pass), but consider Brian Gionta was on that team in 2006. He's on this one too, LOL - and he wasn't young then.
I didn't expect anything. I predicted before the Olympics started that the US would be awful. And the whole men's bracket would be awful. Outside of some spurts there just isn't inspired hockey being played. It's like Men's league with a few ringers.
Still doesn't mean I can't call them out for being awful.
and while I didn't expect the US to be in contention, I didn't expect them to lose to Slovenia either or get beaten out in their bracket by Slovenia.
I would have rather the US built a team of all college kids if NHL players weren't competing.
this team is just unlikable outside of Greenway and normally I'd like Donato but he's a future Bruin.
It isn't like they are showboating or embarrassing the country with antics or something.
It is pretty much a bunch of third tier players
The team is built on mostly journeymen, it's I believe the oldest Olympic hockey team the US has ever had. and personally, I'd prefer they built the team with kids that had some upside or at least a future in hockey instead of primarily journeymen.
there is nothing inspiring (to me) to watch this US team. I've already said it previously the only players I see a lot of emotion/intensity from are Greenway and Donato (two of the three or four college kids on the team).
I'd rather see the US junior team from the World Cup this past January play here, I bet they'd do better.
US women to the gold medal game after crushing Finland 5 - 0 , 10:45 pm on Wednesday. They play the winner of Canada vs Russia on now (Canada cruising 4 - 0).
This will be the third consecutive Olympics where the USA and Canada women have played for the gold, with Canada winning the first 2 (while the USA has beaten Canada for the gold in the last three world cups).
So far that game is the most interesting thing of the Olympics for me.
Men play a rematch with Slovakia tonight at 10:10 to try and advance to the medal round. If USA wins they play the Czech republic tomorrow night same time. If they lose I believe it will be the worst ever Olympic finish for the men.
Further proof that you can't enhance Curlers. The sport was created for impaired people.
Just 1 - 0 and the Slovaks ran the US goalie (not violently, but it injured the goalie) and a different guy on the same play cheap-shotted Donato (who has the US goal) with an elbow to the face.
US to go on a 5 - 3 PP, but maybe without their starting goalie in net.
He was already a decent prospect, I mean he's 4th in the NCAA in goals, but man he's showing he's a complete player in this Olympics (albeit against competition that is slightly worse than he sees regularly even in the ECAC).
USA plays the Czech's tonight with the winner having the pleasure of a rematch vs OAR.
I would watch that. I bet the Chinese are amazing at Tiddlywinks.
Canada vs Germany, Czechs vs OAR.
honestly don't care.
If anything I'm rooting for OAR, I like watching Datsyuk and Kovalchuk
I guess I'll hope for a Germany vs OAR final.
Need a big game from Knight and a brick wall from Rooney!!!
USA... USA... USA!!!
What were the odds?
I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.
Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.
What were the odds?
I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.
Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.
Hopefully Bettman realizes how much he screwed up here and the NHL players are back in 2022. The Winter Olympics just isn’t the same. In Sochi I remember wanting to watch every game, because most rosters had at least a few NHLers. Shit, I was watching the Norway games because of Zucc. This year, not so much. Aside from a few US games, I had no interest.
The biggest point for me was that the NHL is prohibited from using Olympic footage in their marketing.
For example, Crosby's Gold Medal game winner in Vancouver, while it was a garbage goal, was enormous in the moment and the NHL cannot use it to further their sport.
So when people say the NHL misses out on the best marketing event for their sport, I'm not sure I agree.
The best case for the NHL would be for Ice Hockey to be a summer olympic sport. I know this seems contradictory but it's played indoors, rinks have ice all summer and it wouldn't mess with the NHL season and force them to take two weeks off during their season and extend it farther out.
There's no doubt the hockey suffers in the Olympics, but at least I get the NHL perspective and I find it sort of hard to completely fault them.
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Great GREAT run -- Giants- 07/11-esque!!!!
Shuster's 8th end is up their with Eli's grace under pressure!
sleep time for this proud American!
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Still so happy over last night's experience.