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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 8:57 pm
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Thanks Eric  
old man : 2/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 9:01 pm : link
More commercials than an NFL game. I didn't think that was possible.
Love the winter games.  
Crispino : 2/8/2018 9:12 pm : link
Great break from the tedium of NBA highlights that never seem to end. Somehow, people still get excited about 6í8Ē guys dunking.

Downhill ski race, ski jumping, and everybodyís trendy passion, curling. Itís great to see athletes excel the one time every four years that the world pays attention.
Opening ceremonies tonight?  
Matt M. : 2/8/2018 9:15 pm : link
Or first events? I thought they started tomorrow.
Live curling  
Pete in MD : 2/8/2018 9:20 pm : link
tonight on NBCSN Network.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 2/8/2018 9:34 pm : link
Yawn.

(Yes. I'm posting on this thread even though I don't care.)
RE: Opening ceremonies tonight?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 2/8/2018 9:45 pm : link
In comment 13827225 Matt M. said:
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Or first events? I thought they started tomorrow.


Opening ceremonies tomorrow.
Ah, the Olympics.  
Mr. Bungle : 2/8/2018 9:48 pm : link
When women watch sports.
have they always  
UESBLUE : 2/8/2018 9:56 pm : link
begun events before the opening ceremonies?
Yes.  
redwhiteandbigblue : 2/8/2018 11:12 pm : link
Just never televised. Usually shown via tape delay after opening ceremonies.
Mens ice skating holy crap  
giant24 : 2/9/2018 12:28 am : link
almost everyone fell on their jumps. As a dad of kids about that age I feel horrible for them, all that practicing and competing and then nerves get the best of them.
A joke that many of the cheating  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 6:11 am : link
Russian athletes fromSochi get to participate because of a ridiculous legal ruling.
I thought the majority..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 8:15 am : link
of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.
By the way..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 8:16 am : link
for those in the crowd who got excited over it last time, the Tongan flag bearer is oiled and ready to go.....
I'm looking forward to Women's Hockey..  
BamaBlue : 2/9/2018 8:29 am : link
USA vs. Canada. That is always intense. I guess I'm an outlier, because I cannot stand curling. In order to enjoy curling, there would have to be a lot of beer consumption for me and the participants. A lot of beer...
what's the big to do about our flag bearer?  
gtt350 : 2/9/2018 9:21 am : link
there was a coin flip to break a tie vote and the loser is freaking out.
RE: I thought the majority..  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 9:39 am : link
In comment 13827338 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.
true, 28 Russians lost their appeal yesterday. the 169 Russian athletes competing under a neutral flag (not much off their usual winter Olympics numbers) while supposedly cleared after detailed checks, are the products of a dirty system that was proven by WADA and the IOC to implement widespread doping of its athletes and for which Russia still denies it is responsible, despite the damning evidence of holes in the wall of doping testing rules and urine bottle swap outs by Russian security officials. it's hard to believe that these athletes are clean until Russia owns up to its mistakes and takes meaningful steps to stop cheating. the russians are not alone - there are a number of scandanavian athletes engaged in blood doping - but not at a government-condoned, systemic level.
Considering how deep and pervasive the mind  
idiotsavant : 2/9/2018 10:38 am : link
Control is in the North. And how impoverished it is and barren, even probably for elite athletes...

The quizzicle looks on faces of the minder/cheer squad (Reuters pictures maybe, or was it BBC) are visual gold:


"This doesn't fit our narrative"

"what's with all the happy faces and shiny techmology?"

"We will probably be shot just for seeing this stuff"

"Don't let Betty go pee alone, she might make a run for it"
RE: Considering how deep and pervasive the mind  
Les in TO : 2/9/2018 10:48 am : link
In comment 13827485 idiotsavant said:
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Control is in the North. And how impoverished it is and barren, even probably for elite athletes...

The quizzicle looks on faces of the minder/cheer squad (Reuters pictures maybe, or was it BBC) are visual gold:


"This doesn't fit our narrative"

"what's with all the happy faces and shiny techmology?"

"We will probably be shot just for seeing this stuff"

"Don't let Betty go pee alone, she might make a run for it"
yeah north korea and south korea are neighbours, but they may as well be from different planets or decades. in the Olympic village this year, you can pay for goods with wearable devices like gloves, pins and stickers that have a chip and antenna embedded. in NK you are probably only paying with cash, government ID cards or bartering. the NK representatives are probably feeling like Brendan fraser's character in the movie blast from the past.
RE: have they always  
njm : 2/9/2018 10:53 am : link
In comment 13827253 UESBLUE said:
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begun events before the opening ceremonies?


Because it takes 2 1/2 weeks to get the 10 curling matches completed.
I'll admit I don't follow the Olympics or even care much  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 11:45 am : link
so I only know what I see in the headlines...

So...is Shani Davis a dick or what?
RE: Ah, the Olympics.  
jpennyva : 2/9/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13827246 Mr. Bungle said:
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When women watch sports.


I take exception to that. I'd rather watch sports than most of the stuff on TV, with perhaps the exception of Netflix originals (especially the Marvel programs).
I don't..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 2:28 pm : link
know, but when you make veiled claims of racism regarding a decision that was made with a "dishonorable coin flip" and then makes reference to Black History Month, he doesn't come off too well.

Sounds like he thinks he should've been the flag bearer because he's black.
He's now skipping the Opening Ceremonies altogether  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 2:36 pm : link
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RE: RE: I thought the majority..  
trueblueinpw : 2/9/2018 3:23 pm : link
In comment 13827408 Les in TO said:
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In comment 13827338 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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of the Russian athletes lost their appeal yesterday to compete.

The ones competing weren't accused of cheating I didn't think.

true, 28 Russians lost their appeal yesterday. the 169 Russian athletes competing under a neutral flag (not much off their usual winter Olympics numbers) while supposedly cleared after detailed checks, are the products of a dirty system that was proven by WADA and the IOC to implement widespread doping of its athletes and for which Russia still denies it is responsible, despite the damning evidence of holes in the wall of doping testing rules and urine bottle swap outs by Russian security officials. it's hard to believe that these athletes are clean until Russia owns up to its mistakes and takes meaningful steps to stop cheating. the russians are not alone - there are a number of scandanavian athletes engaged in blood doping - but not at a government-condoned, systemic level.


Russia is a gangster state. Iím glad to see their flag isnít allowed. Itís too bad though, because the athletes are essentially forced to cheat or they wonít be allowed to participate in the Russian sports systems. Itís a shame, really it is. Like I said, itís a lawless state run by thugs and gangsters.
RE: I don't..  
BigBlue2112 : 2/9/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13827789 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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know, but when you make veiled claims of racism regarding a decision that was made with a "dishonorable coin flip" and then makes reference to Black History Month, he doesn't come off too well.

Sounds like he thinks he should've been the flag bearer because he's black.


This.
I just learned that it was decided by  
Beezer : 2/9/2018 4:17 pm : link
a coin toss.

How can that be real? lolol

A. Seems a bit ridiculous. Someone make a call, based on actual rationale, and go with it. Take your lumps, but own the decision.

2. A fucking coin toss? bahahahahahahahaha
there was a vote  
Csonka : 2/9/2018 4:22 pm : link
came to a 4-4 tie.
they predetermined that in the event of a tie, it would go to a coin toss.
Davis has won two gold medals  
shyster : 2/9/2018 4:29 pm : link
and made four Olympic teams.

Hamlin has won one bronze medal and made four Olympic teams.

Davis is 35; his medal days are behind him and this is, realistically, his last team.

Hamlin is 31.

If one looks at the criteria that have governed previous selections, Davis should have gotten the nod, and he knows that.

The participants in the initial tie vote that led to the ooin toss are the captains of each discipline making up the USA squad. Winter sports being what they are, this means mostly white people.

And that's where the reference to Black History Month comes in.
RE: I just learned that it was decided by  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:31 pm : link
In comment 13827904 Beezer said:
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a coin toss.

How can that be real? lolol

A. Seems a bit ridiculous. Someone make a call, based on actual rationale, and go with it. Take your lumps, but own the decision.

2. A fucking coin toss? bahahahahahahahaha


A state house seat in VA came down to a fucking coin toss as well. Now that is a travesty.
Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:34 pm : link
JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.
It is as ridiculous..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 4:35 pm : link
as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

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The participants in the initial tie vote that led to the ooin toss are the captains of each discipline making up the USA squad. Winter sports being what they are, this means mostly white people.

And that's where the reference to Black History Month comes in.


"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"
RE: Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
Boy Cord : 2/9/2018 4:37 pm : link
In comment 13827926 Boy Cord said:
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JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.


Okay. This looks to be the best landing spot for the TV schedule on their site.
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RE: It is as ridiculous..  
shyster : 2/9/2018 4:50 pm : link
In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"


I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic.
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What is there...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 5:02 pm : link
to dismiss??

There was a split vote of the board of 8 people. It isn't like he wasn't even considered or they voted against him.

They flipped a frigging coin to decide things.

But that's racist? This country truly is losing its mind at times.
RE: RE: It is as ridiculous..  
njm : 2/9/2018 5:18 pm : link
In comment 13827947 shyster said:
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In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"



I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic. Observer - ( New Window )


The unspoken message in "Cool Runnings" was that the Winter Olympics were a place where black people weren't supposed be? Pardon me while I consider that article a joke.
The article..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/9/2018 5:26 pm : link
also contains this melodramatic drivel:

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For them, it was a familiar scenario: Despite being exceptional in a field dominated by whites, he was bypassed for a job he deserved. What's more, when he pointed that out, he was shouted down as an ungrateful distraction.


How was being a flag bearer a job he "deserved"? If we are going just by exceptional performances, there are other winter Olympic athletes more decorated.

Frankly carrying the flag isn't a job to be deserved, it is an honor, and his reaction is one that isn't exactly helping that cause.

He has basically accused the decision makers to have done it out of racial considerations., and his reaction is that he was excluded because he's black, then he follows it up by not going to the ceremony at all.

Honor my ass.
My first thought would be that coins arenít racist  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 5:44 pm : link
But then I thought, thereís only white people on them. OTOH, one of the coins is copper-colored...

Look, I donít know these things well enough to know if a vote and coin toss is out of ordinary. I do know that the rules were known in advance. I also figure that he had a 50% chance at the end.

I do think that heís showing poor sportsmanship which, considering the venue, is ironic. And pulling out of the ceremonies altogether is essentially a temper tantrum.

God help him if he loses. Maybe we have an international incident in the offing ?
RE: Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2018 5:46 pm : link
In comment 13827926 Boy Cord said:
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JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.


It's confusing because there's a TV schedule and an online streaming schedule. The linked page will give you your TV listings. The only event on TV tonight is the (tape delayed) Opening Ceremonies on NBC at 8pm ET.
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RE: RE: RE: It is as ridiculous..  
Bill L : 2/9/2018 5:50 pm : link
In comment 13827971 njm said:
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In comment 13827947 shyster said:


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In comment 13827929 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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as if Hamlin lost and claimed sexism:

"Team USA dishonorably tossed a coin to decide it next flag bearer. No problem, I'll wait until 2022. #MeToo"



I don't expect it to change your mind but linked is a take that made it into your hometown paper. It's by a national AP writer.

Davis has been in the sport a long time and has not always made friends. The line between a personal dislike that may influence a vote and racial animus is not easy to draw but dismissing the latter is not what I'd call realistic. Observer - ( New Window )



The unspoken message in "Cool Runnings" was that the Winter Olympics were a place where black people weren't supposed be? Pardon me while I consider that article a joke.
i always thought the joke was more the juxtaposotion of a winter sport with a a Caribbean tropical beach paradise?
Whereas  
NYerInMA : 2/9/2018 5:51 pm : link
If you go to this link, you'll see the online streaming schedule.
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The Washington Post  
jpennyva : 2/9/2018 5:59 pm : link
Published a special section on the Olympics this past Wednesday and one of the things I liked about it was that it broke all the sports down and gave specific information on each sport including when the sport is scheduled to be broadcast and on which network. There seems to be a similar electronic version available from the link below about midway down the page.
Washington Post Olympics Info - ( New Window )
How good is  
XBRONX : 2/9/2018 6:00 pm : link
the Jamaican bobsled team?
RE: How good is  
JINTin Adirondacks : 2/9/2018 9:00 pm : link
In comment 13827993 XBRONX said:
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the Jamaican bobsled team?

Slightly better than the movie.
One team walking in as Korea. Pretty cool.  
Beezer : 2/10/2018 2:46 am : link
Wishing the VP would have stood, at least for diplomacy.
RE: By the way..  
Matt M. : 2/10/2018 7:46 am : link
In comment 13827340 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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for those in the crowd who got excited over it last time, the Tongan flag bearer is oiled and ready to go.....
So, he competed in the summer and winter?
I didn't realize before yesterday there was to be a unified Korea  
Matt M. : 2/10/2018 7:53 am : link
Why?
RE: I didn't realize before yesterday there was to be a unified Korea  
BamaBlue : 2/10/2018 8:44 am : link
In comment 13828185 Matt M. said:
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Why?


Reunification of Korea is a goal for both Koreas. The problem is that the conditions for reunification are as diverse as the two countries. This is a big step in showing unity of the Korean people... the political and economic obstacles will always be there.
Why are so  
Pete in MD : 2/10/2018 1:21 pm : link
many Koreans named "Kim?" I understand that their family name comes first but why so many "Kims?" Does it refer to a profession like "Smith" in the US or a certain city or region? There are also a lot of people with "Park" in their name but not as many as "Kim." This is a serious question.
Pete here's your answer  
Watson : 2/10/2018 4:20 pm : link
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Kim, Park And Lee: Why Do Koreans Have So Few Surnames? - ( New Window )
Davis is a dick and it has zero to do with his race (so stop)  
bhill410 : 2/10/2018 11:31 pm : link
Dude flipped out on Colbert years ago and essentially effed his teammates by refusing to participate in any of the relay events several olympics ago (probably cost them gold). Dudes a great skater but clearly has a personality and ego problem. Also best athlete doesnít mean carry the flag - Phelps in 16 notwithstanding
I just don't understand..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/11/2018 8:52 pm : link
the figure skating scoring. I just watched two guys fall on their asses twice each, yet they scored higher than two skaters who were clean.

If I heard it correctly, it is better to try and fail a difficult move than to not try one at all.

Jesus.
RE: I just don't understand..  
PhiPsi125 : 2/11/2018 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13829443 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the figure skating scoring. I just watched two guys fall on their asses twice each, yet they scored higher than two skaters who were clean.

If I heard it correctly, it is better to try and fail a difficult move than to not try one at all.

Jesus.


Yeah, itís bullshit. Something had to change with the scoring. Probably why there are so many skaters falling in their programs too.

You want to give some extra points to skaters that try hard things...fine. But athletes that fail at their program should never score higher than althletes that nail their program. All these routines are difficult. Nobody is coming to the Olympics with a cookie cutter program.
RE: Can someone help me with the Olympics schedule?  
Knineteen : 2/11/2018 9:44 pm : link
In comment 13827926 Boy Cord said:
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JFC, I go to nbcolympics.com of all places and I can't figure this out for shit. One place I read there will be speed skating tonight, but the interactive schedule says no events on tap today.

They spend billions on the Olympics but make viewing so damn confusing.

Agreed. Communication has been less than ideal.

I had to watch the Skiathlon on my phone at 1 AM. NBC and NBCSN were showing taped delayed events rather than live coverage.

Yeah, Skiathlon is pretty boring, but at least show events live when they happen.
My take..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/11/2018 9:50 pm : link
is that you get rewarded for successfully pulling off a difficult move, but if you fail at it, you should get punished.

It doesn't make sense to get points just for trying something

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But athletes that fail at their program should never score higher than althletes that nail their program


What they basically are doing is forcing skaters to do whatever acrobatics possible at the expense of the artistry aspect.
The late night and overnight events  
dpinzow : 2/11/2018 9:55 pm : link
are going to be something to get used to, because the next two Olympics are also in the Far East

2020 Tokyo
2022 Beijing
This women's snowboarding event is fucking embarrassing  
Knineteen : 2/11/2018 10:56 pm : link
strictly because of the wind.

The spread of scores is too wide.
Why can't they just postpone this event until another day?!

Fall after fall after fall. Plus, they eliminated the third run.
It's absolutely terrible.
RE: Why are so  
spike : 2/11/2018 11:51 pm : link
In comment 13828442 Pete in MD said:
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many Koreans named "Kim?" I understand that their family name comes first but why so many "Kims?" Does it refer to a profession like "Smith" in the US or a certain city or region? There are also a lot of people with "Park" in their name but not as many as "Kim." This is a serious question.


"The 2000 South Korean census listed 348 extant Kim lineages.[3]

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Speaking of a Kim  
dpinzow : 2/12/2018 8:30 pm : link
Chloe Kim (parents immigrated from South Korea to the US) just THREW DOWN on her first halfpipe run
9.375  
idiotsavant : 2/12/2018 9:16 pm : link
Closest at that time was 7.65

I think even.now closest is 8.5 .


Age 17! Woooooowoooo!!!

Snowboard half pipe fuck yeah!
Then on her next run  
idiotsavant : 2/12/2018 9:35 pm : link
She nails 2 - 1080s.

I don't think anyone even did one!

9.825!


Silver was like 8.6!


Insane!! Insane!

I mean. Snowboarding was just our off beat hobby and not even allowed on most Ski mountains. God bless America. Seriously.
RE: What is there...  
madgiantscow009 : 2/12/2018 11:26 pm : link
In comment 13827957 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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to dismiss??

There was a split vote of the board of 8 people. It isn't like he wasn't even considered or they voted against him.

They flipped a frigging coin to decide things.

But that's racist? This country truly is losing its mind at times.


Damn  
sshin05 : 2/12/2018 11:35 pm : link
forgot how good Shaun White was. Just did something impressive to take the top score in qualifiers.
Men's half pipe  
idiotsavant : 2/13/2018 8:10 pm : link
Possibly the final is coming up tonight? Wooowooo!
Shaun White  
trueblueinpw : 2/13/2018 10:10 pm : link
Money run.
Shaun White is the fucking man  
Jints in Carolina : 2/13/2018 10:20 pm : link
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Shaun White  
dpinzow : 2/13/2018 10:26 pm : link
What a sports moment. Trailing going into his last run, possibly his last ever Olympic appearance, he throws down one of the greatest runs of his life to win
Amazing run, not sure how anyone finds that boring  
pjcas18 : 2/13/2018 10:34 pm : link
and he's 31, pretty sure it's his final Olympic run.

and yet  
UESBLUE : 2/14/2018 8:29 am : link
there are some who are not so thrilled with Shaun White...
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I watched live last night  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 8:34 am : link
And was thinking that him dragging the flag was a bad look and wondered if there might be some blow back.
RE: I watched live last night  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 8:52 am : link
In comment 13831886 figgy2989 said:
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And was thinking that him dragging the flag was a bad look and wondered if there might be some blow back.



Seriously doubt any blowback, in each of his gold medal performances he draped himself in the American flag in a show of patriotism. While he was walking off the halfpipe course the flag dragged behind him. Only the worst kind of people would have an issue with that. flag etiquette has evolved significantly over the years. and clearly he was not intending to disrespect the flag.
RE: Shaun White is the fucking man  
Mr. Bungle : 2/14/2018 8:55 am : link
In comment 13831760 Jints in Carolina said:
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Great snowboarder. Not much of a man.
My take is enough about the flag.  
Matt M. : 2/14/2018 8:56 am : link
For all the talk about "flag code" every athlete that drapes the flag on their body is violating the "flag code". A lot of what gets done with the flag during the Olympics is in violation of the "flag code".
RE: RE: I watched live last night  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 9:10 am : link
In comment 13831901 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13831886 figgy2989 said:


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And was thinking that him dragging the flag was a bad look and wondered if there might be some blow back.




Seriously doubt any blowback, in each of his gold medal performances he draped himself in the American flag in a show of patriotism. While he was walking off the halfpipe course the flag dragged behind him. Only the worst kind of people would have an issue with that. flag etiquette has evolved significantly over the years. and clearly he was not intending to disrespect the flag.


My Grandfather was an old school Retired USCG and was big on the flag never touching the ground. I personally have no problem with it. Like you said, it was not his intent to disgrace the flag, but I can see how some people might take issue with it.
I take that back  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 9:13 am : link
some people may have an issue with it. Some people always do, but like I said in these current times where in some places simple proper display of the American flag is considered hate speech, I think the majority would prefer flag code violations (that were well intended) to the alternative.
did anyone just watch the USA hockey game?  
Jints in Carolina : 2/14/2018 9:20 am : link
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RE: did anyone just watch the USA hockey game?  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 9:24 am : link
In comment 13831939 Jints in Carolina said:
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Yes, I did. Awful.
They lost in OT?  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 9:27 am : link
Last I checked they were up 2.
RE: RE: did anyone just watch the USA hockey game?  
Jints in Carolina : 2/14/2018 9:28 am : link
In comment 13831946 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 13831939 Jints in Carolina said:


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Yes, I did. Awful.


horrible loss....are you kidding me? They dominated for 2+ periods and then sat back and got slow. Slovenia skated circles around them in the final 10 minutes and what was OT. Fucking brutal.
Just not a lot of  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 9:30 am : link
talent IMO. A lot of bad hockey.

the women's games are fundamentally better.
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Bill2 : 2/14/2018 9:54 am : link

At a news conference later Wednesday evening, White said he didnít know he had dropped the flag and apologized.

ďHonestly, if there was anything Ö I didnít mean any disrespect,Ē White said. ďThe flag thatís flying up on my house right now is definitely really high up there. Sorry about that. Iím really proud to represent Team USA.Ē
I deleted my thread.  
superspynyg : 2/14/2018 10:40 am : link
I really find these all encompassing threads hard to follow as they can switch topics so easily from sport to sport.

but its here so..

Our hockey team sucks ass!!! At least the Russians lost as well
RE: Just not a lot of  
lax counsel : 2/14/2018 10:44 am : link
In comment 13831962 pjcas18 said:
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talent IMO. A lot of bad hockey.

the women's games are fundamentally better.


Hockey was my favorite Olympic sport with NHL players. I read an article of a potential Team USA with NHL players and by all accounts they would have been right there with Team Canada competing for the gold. This current version of Olympic hockey looks like a bad amateur competition. I do not even believe the US sent its best amateur players this year. So no interest really.

I also saw Russia lost, so there's that.
If the NHL would have participated in the Olympics  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 11:06 am : link
it may have been the best display of hockey talent since the 1996 world cup.

I wasn't around/aware for most of the 70's but I cannot imagine a more talented NHL than what we're currently seeing.

And while the Canadian dominance still strong (they'd be heavy favorites), Canadians only make up 46% of the NHL, where it used to be in the 70% range. USA is second with 27%. Sweden 3rd around 10%.
occasionally when taking down/putting up the flag  
GiantsLaw : 2/14/2018 11:58 am : link
it has slipped and touched the ground. It was a mistake and I meant no disrespect. I apologize to anyone I might have offended and said 10 Pledge of Allegiances as penance.
just saw the Shaun White run  
PaulBlakeTSU : 2/14/2018 12:57 pm : link
it's unreal how much air he (and Chloe Kim) get relative to the other best snowboarders in the world. Awesome to watch.
Glad to see  
Gregorio : 2/14/2018 1:44 pm : link
American Emily Sweeney walking after her luge crash. Anyone catch that? Sliding down an ice tube at 68mph, on one hand looks thrilling but on the other, scary as hell.
RE: Glad to see  
pjcas18 : 2/14/2018 1:52 pm : link
In comment 13832329 Gregorio said:
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American Emily Sweeney walking after her luge crash. Anyone catch that? Sliding down an ice tube at 68mph, on one hand looks thrilling but on the other, scary as hell.


Yes, and it made we wonder how people found out they were good at this.


It also reminded me quickly of the guy who died in Vancouver, that was luge wasn't it? I think he went off the track and of course it was on video.
RE: did anyone just watch the USA hockey game?  
Percy : 2/14/2018 2:25 pm : link
In comment 13831939 Jints in Carolina said:
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Yes. Disappointing.
Curling  
AcidTest : 2/14/2018 3:36 pm : link
is back on again.
Looking forward to the US Women's game tonight  
Jints in Carolina : 2/14/2018 7:03 pm : link
Thurs., Feb. 15
U.S. Women vs. Canada Preliminary
10:10 p.m. (Feb. 14)
USA hockey  
Knineteen : 2/15/2018 7:00 pm : link
embarrassing.

The majority of these Canadian women play hockey in the USA. Could we maybe leverage the USA hockey framework and get the gold for once?

The men; forget it.
Trying to find Slovenia on the map...

Props to NBC for trying to spotlight Chris Bourque as something other than an aging minor-league journeyman. The son of Ray Bourque? Here comes the gold!
USA Women have beaten  
pjcas18 : 2/15/2018 10:38 pm : link
Canada for the Gold the past four hockey world cups - not sure we need to copy anything from the Canadian model.

it's just been the Olympics that have been a problem.

I still expect USA vs Canada in the women's final.

the men is just not interesting. Not even like a young team of hungry college kids, it's a bunch of has-beens (Gionta), journeymen, and just minor league hockey players.

not even interesting. for any teams (it's not just the US).

What's more embarrassing....  
Knineteen : 2/16/2018 12:19 am : link
they aren't even televising the USA vs. Slovakia game?!

NBC and NBCSN are showing the same men's figure skating program?!!? NBCSN is showing the live competition. NBC is showing the same competition but on tape delay.

WTF is going on here?
The..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/16/2018 8:08 am : link
USA vs. Slovakia game was on last night.I think they put it on cNBC or USA. I was watching it.
TV schedule is here  
NYerInMA : 2/16/2018 10:51 pm : link
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TV listings - ( New Window )
Early tomorrow  
Pete in MD : 2/16/2018 11:03 pm : link
morning (7am EST) is another Olympic hockey showdown between Team USA and The Soviet Uni...er Russ...uh Team OAR. It should be "A Crazy Game of Hockey."
And in Men's  
Pete in MD : 2/16/2018 11:09 pm : link
figure skating right now, American Nathan Chen, who screwed up in the short program and came in at 17th, landed six quad jumps in the long program to make a huge comeback. Apparently, no one has ever even attempted more than five. If a few of the favorites screw up he could win a medal.
Nothing crazy about that game  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 9:32 am : link
US could not deal with the OAR speed, and is just not a good team. Datsyuk and Kovalchuk with some has-beens could have won. US all but eliminated now. Win or go in.

US goalie stinks too.

Most Hockey East college teams could beat them I think and some of the ECAC teams too.
Should be win or  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 9:33 am : link
go home
You can't both be...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 3:31 pm : link
"all but eliminated" and also win or go home. Every team is in the same boat. Their next loss will send them out.

Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.
RE: You can't both be...  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 3:56 pm : link
In comment 13835290 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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"all but eliminated" and also win or go home. Every team is in the same boat. Their next loss will send them out.

Us needs to win. So does every other team that will still play.


except the teams that finished in the top 2 of their 4 team brackets. The US finished behind Slovenia. Slovenia.

they're in the playoff round, the top 4 get byes. they need to win to get into the quarterfinals.

they're done.

worst US Olympic team ever all things considered IMO.

the 2006 team I think had the worst finish, 8th place (and one of the 90's teams, maybe 1994 before pros went - but a good friend of mine was on that team so I give them a pass), but consider Brian Gionta was on that team in 2006. He's on this one too, LOL - and he wasn't young then.

Well, at least 2018-2019 NY Ranger top liner  
MetsAreBack : 2/17/2018 3:59 pm : link
Kovulchuk scored 2 today.
You guys..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 5:26 pm : link
are acting like the US team was expected to be gold medalists. Most didn't even project them to medal.

RE: You guys..  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 5:37 pm : link
In comment 13835337 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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are acting like the US team was expected to be gold medalists. Most didn't even project them to medal.


I didn't expect anything. I predicted before the Olympics started that the US would be awful. And the whole men's bracket would be awful. Outside of some spurts there just isn't inspired hockey being played. It's like Men's league with a few ringers.

Still doesn't mean I can't call them out for being awful.

and while I didn't expect the US to be in contention, I didn't expect them to lose to Slovenia either or get beaten out in their bracket by Slovenia.

I would have rather the US built a team of all college kids if NHL players weren't competing.

this team is just unlikable outside of Greenway and normally I'd like Donato but he's a future Bruin.
They're unlikeable??  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/17/2018 8:54 pm : link
Why because they are losing?

It isn't like they are showboating or embarrassing the country with antics or something.

It is pretty much a bunch of third tier players
Maybe unlikable is the wrong word  
pjcas18 : 2/17/2018 10:09 pm : link
it's just not a group of players that inspire me with their play and I'm not looking for another miracle on ice, the USA has had plenty of olympic teams between 1980 and Nagano (when pros started playing) that didn't win, but still inspired.

The team is built on mostly journeymen, it's I believe the oldest Olympic hockey team the US has ever had. and personally, I'd prefer they built the team with kids that had some upside or at least a future in hockey instead of primarily journeymen.

there is nothing inspiring (to me) to watch this US team. I've already said it previously the only players I see a lot of emotion/intensity from are Greenway and Donato (two of the three or four college kids on the team).

I'd rather see the US junior team from the World Cup this past January play here, I bet they'd do better.
Us women show up  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2018 9:03 am : link
of course though those are the best women's hockey players on the planet (collectively, not just USA) unlike the Men.

US women to the gold medal game after crushing Finland 5 - 0 , 10:45 pm on Wednesday. They play the winner of Canada vs Russia on now (Canada cruising 4 - 0).

This will be the third consecutive Olympics where the USA and Canada women have played for the gold, with Canada winning the first 2 (while the USA has beaten Canada for the gold in the last three world cups).

So far that game is the most interesting thing of the Olympics for me.

Men play a rematch with Slovakia tonight at 10:10 to try and advance to the medal round. If USA wins they play the Czech republic tomorrow night same time. If they lose I believe it will be the worst ever Olympic finish for the men.
Breaking News...  
BamaBlue : 2/19/2018 10:42 am : link
Russians cheat! No not the special counsel's report, the Russians cheating in (of all things) Curling!?

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Aleksandr Krushelnitckii, who won a bronze medal in mixed doubles Curling last week, has tested positive for a high dose of meldonium.


Further proof that you can't enhance Curlers. The sport was created for impaired people.
US playing really well  
pjcas18 : 2/19/2018 11:04 pm : link
in this game, wouldn't be in this spot if they'd played like this against Slovenia.

Just 1 - 0 and the Slovaks ran the US goalie (not violently, but it injured the goalie) and a different guy on the same play cheap-shotted Donato (who has the US goal) with an elbow to the face.

US to go on a 5 - 3 PP, but maybe without their starting goalie in net.
Finally a solid effort  
pjcas18 : 2/20/2018 8:56 am : link
from the US. Only thing bitter about this one is Ryan Donato is establishing himself as a bona fide NHL prospect, and he's a Boston Bruin draftee.

He was already a decent prospect, I mean he's 4th in the NCAA in goals, but man he's showing he's a complete player in this Olympics (albeit against competition that is slightly worse than he sees regularly even in the ECAC).

USA plays the Czech's tonight with the winner having the pleasure of a rematch vs OAR.
Hockey and More  
Percy : 2/20/2018 11:14 am : link
Glad to see the U.S. men win last night and look forward to the Czeck game tonight. Womens hockey has been great, too. Was impressed by the pairs ice dancing contest -- thought the fourth place U.S. pair was fantastic as well as the medalists, who were even better. Want to see Vonn win the downhill today and very, very sorry the schedule has been so collapsed by weather issues that Schiffrin had to pull out to concentrate on the combined. NBC has made it hard to follow everything properly. Olympics channel helps, but not much.
One of the most putrid shootouts I've seen.  
Mr. Bungle : 2/21/2018 12:50 am : link
Ugly stuff.
Men's Curling..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/21/2018 7:48 am : link
team is on to the medal round, with the only enhancements being from Budweiser!!
Curling in the Winter Olympics...  
BamaBlue : 2/21/2018 7:49 am : link
Tiddlywinks in the Summer Games?
RE: Curling in the Winter Olympics...  
Pete in 'Vliet : 2/21/2018 8:06 am : link
In comment 13837745 BamaBlue said:
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Tiddlywinks in the Summer Games?


I would watch that. I bet the Chinese are amazing at Tiddlywinks.
USA vs Canada women  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2018 9:29 am : link
for the gold tonight. can't wait for these Olympics to end.
Germany in the men's semis  
pjcas18 : 2/21/2018 9:35 am : link
after knocking off Sweden.

Canada vs Germany, Czechs vs OAR.

honestly don't care.

If anything I'm rooting for OAR, I like watching Datsyuk and Kovalchuk

I guess I'll hope for a Germany vs OAR final.
Let's GO Ladies... REDEMPTION!!!  
Run with 81 : 2/21/2018 11:10 pm : link
Go out there and take the Gold you've worked so long and hard for. Chillax & play your game. Bring home the gold girls!!!
Need a big game from Knight and a brick wall from Rooney!!!

USA... USA... USA!!!
My buddyís nephew took the silver  
Section331 : 2/22/2018 12:20 am : link
in the menís free ski halfpipe. Pretty cool, and he was so close to gold!
USA!!!  
Run with 81 : 2/22/2018 2:17 am : link
USA!!!
Women's Free Skate  
Percy : 2/23/2018 9:10 am : link
Zagitova/Medvedeva: how many of the judges had ever read Anna Karenina and understood the theme underlying Medvedeva's performance? Not enough, I suspect. Audience reaction -- rejection of judges' final score for her -- was right on, IMHO. Could understandably have awarded golds to both and should have.
So Germany knocks  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2018 12:48 pm : link
off Canada and the OAR beat the Czech's (another shutout) setting up a Germany vs OAR Gold Medal game.

What were the odds?

I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.

Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.
RE: So Germany knocks  
figgy2989 : 2/23/2018 12:56 pm : link
In comment 13840385 pjcas18 said:
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off Canada and the OAR beat the Czech's (another shutout) setting up a Germany vs OAR Gold Medal game.

What were the odds?

I mean OAR is the favorite, but there were doubts if Russia would even compete in the Olympics, and Germany? Not even in my top 10.

Hope Germany wins, but doubt it. Kovalchuck and Datsyuk showed again they're the best players in the tournament.


Hopefully Bettman realizes how much he screwed up here and the NHL players are back in 2022. The Winter Olympics just isnít the same. In Sochi I remember wanting to watch every game, because most rosters had at least a few NHLers. Shit, I was watching the Norway games because of Zucc. This year, not so much. Aside from a few US games, I had no interest.
Originally I was flat out against Bettman here  
pjcas18 : 2/23/2018 1:07 pm : link
but he has some points and it's not him, it's the owners who decided this.

The biggest point for me was that the NHL is prohibited from using Olympic footage in their marketing.

For example, Crosby's Gold Medal game winner in Vancouver, while it was a garbage goal, was enormous in the moment and the NHL cannot use it to further their sport.

So when people say the NHL misses out on the best marketing event for their sport, I'm not sure I agree.

The best case for the NHL would be for Ice Hockey to be a summer olympic sport. I know this seems contradictory but it's played indoors, rinks have ice all summer and it wouldn't mess with the NHL season and force them to take two weeks off during their season and extend it farther out.

There's no doubt the hockey suffers in the Olympics, but at least I get the NHL perspective and I find it sort of hard to completely fault them.
How's this for irony?  
Bill L : 2/23/2018 4:28 pm : link

Link - ( New Window )
U.S. Men's Gold Medal Curling match  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/23/2018 11:23 pm : link
VS. Sweden starts in about 2 and a half hours, Sat 1:35 am EST. Sweden has been playing lights out this tournament. It will most likely take a near flawless game from John Shuster and the American men to bring home the gold. But after the huge semi-final win over Canada it feels like we are playing with house money tonight. This will be the match of these men's lives, I really hope they leave it all on the ice. Let's go boys!
I was hoping..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/23/2018 11:25 pm : link
it would be a little bit later. I like getting up at 5:30 and seeing the matches.
I know.  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/23/2018 11:38 pm : link
I feel like I just recovered from being up late for the women's hockey game. I may take a quick nap and set an alarm. Can't miss this one.
USA steals a point in the 4th end.  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/24/2018 2:38 am : link
3-2 score, US on top. Could this be the Mira-curl on Ice?
5 point end!  
Pete in MD : 2/24/2018 3:51 am : link
Itís looking good right now!
Holy smokes!  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/24/2018 3:53 am : link
Huge shot for Shuster to score 5 in the 8th end. US now up 10-5. Shuster has disappointed in the past on key shots, but nailed this one. Got to hold on now.
SO WORTH STAYING UP FOR  
jpkmets : 2/24/2018 4:12 am : link
!!!!!!!!1

Great GREAT run -- Giants- 07/11-esque!!!!
Iím so glad  
Pete in MD : 2/24/2018 4:16 am : link
that Iím up at 4am to watch that.
Wow! Incredible match!!!  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/24/2018 4:25 am : link
So happy for those guys. Ha! I thought it felt 07esque as well. Gotta love sports. Hell of a run
RE: Wow! Incredible match!!!  
jpkmets : 2/24/2018 4:33 am : link
In comment 13841095 BigBlue in Keys said:
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So happy for those guys. Ha! I thought it felt 07esque as well. Gotta love sports. Hell of a run


Shuster's 8th end is up their with Eli's grace under pressure!
*there  
jpkmets : 2/24/2018 4:34 am : link
Lol, too tired, curled out.

sleep time for this proud American!
So far in the Women's curling gold medal game  
BigBlue in Keys : 2/24/2018 8:38 pm : link
Sweden up 4-1 over host South Korea in the 6th end after stealing a point in each of the last 2 ends. If Sweden holds on I will have nailed my prediction of Sweden over South Korea for gold in my semi serious curling preview thread.
Women of Curling preview - ( New Window )
The Garlic Girls  
jpkmets : 2/24/2018 11:05 pm : link
just didn't have the juice for that last game.

Still so happy over last night's experience.
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