While Rocky 4 was the universal favorite, more people say 3 was better in terms of opponent. I dont see it but curious your feelings.
Rocky 3- Rocky vs Mr T(Clobber lang)... beaten, Mickey dies and has to relearn by becoming a different fighter. Clobber lang with monster punches that even the viewer can feel.
Rocky 4- USA vs USSR... big time politics playing on the screen but with boxing. Best friend dies, training in the snow, and brain/ CTE inducing fight to the finish.
which one is your favorite and why
So absurd on so many levels. In short, I loved it.
As an adult 3 really isn't that great of a movie as I remember it and Rocky 4 isn't as bad.
Rocky 4 has to be corniest of all the films though. Rocky isn't even rocky. He's not the dumb figher off the streets. He doesn't suddenly become smarter because he has more money. It is one giant cliche and Rocky overcoming communism is pretty absurd.
From a pure fun stand point, I don't have big problem with either.
Fun fact - Dolph Lundgren has a master's in chemical engineering and was going for his Ph.D at MIT on a Fulbright scholarship when he decided to leave school and try to be an actor.
Havent seen the movie in years but as I recall he was terrifying.
Rocky III
was the superior movie.
Mr. T as the opponent was so much more entertaining than Drago and the Glasnost ending to Rocky IV was pathetic.
Havent seen the movie in years but as I recall he was terrifying.
III came out in '82 or '83, way before Iron Mike.
Scores on IMDB, Rotten Tomatoes, and Metacritic disagree.
R III... 6.7, 63%, 57%
R IV ... 6.8, 39%, 42%
Yup... think about the driving scene alone. It's just filler. LOL
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Sometimes, a terrible movie is great or more accurately, entertaining.
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2. Great opponent. Ivan Drago, to this day is the ultimate sports villain. "If he dies he dies". He only had a few lines but they're all memorable. The only thing I remember about Clubber Lang is that he called Apollo Creed "boy".
3. Shocking unpredictable moment. You didn't expect Apollo Creed to get killed in the ring did you ? I didn't see that coming.
Interesting tidbit: One of the teasers for 4 was a monologue from Ivan Drago. He probably had three times as many lines in the teaser than he did in the actual movie
2. Great opponent. Ivan Drago, to this day is the ultimate sports villain. "If he dies he dies". He only had a few lines but they're all memorable. The only thing I remember about Clubber Lang is that he called Apollo Creed "boy".
3. Shocking unpredictable moment. You didn't expect Apollo Creed to get killed in the ring did you ? I didn't see that coming.
Interesting tidbit: One of the teasers for 4 was a monologue from Ivan Drago. He probably had three times as many lines in the teaser than he did in the actual movie
You don't remember Lang's classic response to the 'What's your prediction for the fight?'
'PREDICTION? PAIN.'
2. Great opponent. Ivan Drago, to this day is the ultimate sports villain. "If he dies he dies". He only had a few lines but they're all memorable. The only thing I remember about Clubber Lang is that he called Apollo Creed "boy".
3. Shocking unpredictable moment. You didn't expect Apollo Creed to get killed in the ring did you ? I didn't see that coming.
Interesting tidbit: One of the teasers for 4 was a monologue from Ivan Drago. He probably had three times as many lines in the teaser than he did in the actual movie
Rocky 3 is one of the most quotable movies of all time:
My Prediction?
Also launched Hulk Hogans career into another stratosphere.
He was a huge part of Wrestlemania because of the movie. If Hulk doesn't do the movie and Mr. T doesn't do Wrestlemania, both probably don't exist.
Though Starcade had been around, so I am sure WWE would have figured something out to compete, but the spectacle that was the original Wrestlemania sure wouldn't have been there.
think about that 10 year old kids, Eye of the Tiger. That song has to be 35 years old or close to it. It's that and Shipping up to Boston, which I hate.
they wouldn't dare play Living in America or Hearts on Fire or even the corny No Easy Way out or the silly training montage people on here seem to love.
Eye of the Tiger is an institution, handing this victory, despite all other arguments for or against, to Rocky III
And it doesn't even matter that Eye of the Tiger is also on the Rocky IV soundtrack.
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Crazy to think that without Rocky 3 having MR T and Hogan in it and without Cyndi Lauper having Capt Lou in her Girls just want to have fun video there would be no wrestlemania ,That’s why I don’t understand why Cyndi Lauper is not in the WWE hall of fame
Though Starcade had been around, so I am sure WWE would have figured something out to compete, but the spectacle that was the original Wrestlemania sure wouldn't have been there.
HBO or Showtime have been playing the entire collection non-stop over the last month. The most interesting thing about watching Rocky V these days is seeing how much CTE he has and how much they show him dealing with it.
As much as "Eye of the Tiger" is the obvious choice for best pump-up / fight song in perhaps movie history, "No Easy Way Out" is still my favorite to listen to when I work out.
And speaking of "Eye of the Tiger," this is a fascinating background of the use of the song in the movie, per Wikipedia
All in all, I don't like what happened to the Rocky character after Rocky II. Totally different character.
As a side note - rumor has it they were going to bring Clubber Lang back for Rocky 6 (aka Rocky Balboa) for a cameo during the final fight he has against Mason "the Line" Dixon. That would have been kind of cool for continuity purposes.
As far as Rocky V goes - that was pure shit. Should have never made that movie.
I'm too young for this but I can imagine the silence in that theater when Apollo died in the beginning. Must have been nuts.
4 has some good music and training scenes, but the ending is ridiculously cheesey and dumb.
3 by a wide margin.
And some great lines. It's funny. For whatever reason, I posted on Facebook eight years ago today (Facebook reminded me) Rocky's post-fight speech. Duke's speech to Rocky was great as well. Drago didn't say much, but what little he said was just perfect.
Sure, there was the awkward robot, which got even more awkward once they changed the voice.
"During this fight, I've seen a lot of changing, in the way you feel about me, and in the way I feel about you. In here, there were two guys killing each other, but I guess that's better than twenty million. I guess what I'm trying to say, is that if I can change, and you can change, everybody can change!"
"Apollo was like my son. I raised him. And when he died a part of me died. But now you're the one. You're the one that's gonna keep his spirit alive. You're the one that's gonna make sure that he didn't die for nothing. Now you're gonna have to go through hell. Worse than any nightmare you ever dreamed. But in the end, I know you'll be the one standing. You know what you have to do. Do it. Do it."
"If he dies, he dies."
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As a side note - rumor has it they were going to bring Clubber Lang back for Rocky 6 (aka Rocky Balboa) for a cameo during the final fight he has against Mason "the Line" Dixon. That would have been kind of cool for continuity purposes.
Not needed. They had Spider Rico. Can't get any better than that.
True. I believe Lang was going to be a color commentator for the final fight.
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As a side note - rumor has it they were going to bring Clubber Lang back for Rocky 6 (aka Rocky Balboa) for a cameo during the final fight he has against Mason "the Line" Dixon. That would have been kind of cool for continuity purposes.
Not needed. They had Spider Rico. Can't get any better than that.
True. I believe Lang was going to be a color commentator for the final fight.
That would have been amazing. Such a shame. Maybe they do it in the new Creed movie?
I won't disagree with that, but it was so damn entertaining that, if given the choice, I'm watching IV. Rocky, Rocky II, & Rocky III were much better films no doubt. But IV's absurdity is too classic.
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Drago was a punk.
I won't disagree with that, but it was so damn entertaining that, if given the choice, I'm watching IV. Rocky, Rocky II, & Rocky III were much better films no doubt. But IV's absurdity is too classic.
It’s absurdity is what makes it borderline unwatchable to me. I prefer the absurdity of Clubber Lang’s character. Terrific casting.
"I must break you"
"He's not a human. He's like a piece of iron"
But having seen them later in life I do like III better.
Not that I think it's great or anything, but none of the movies are great.
Not that I think it's great or anything, but none of the movies are great.
Sentence one is inaccurate as I do not have a problem with defending a fight over the theft of your son's room.
Sentence two is inaccruate as the second half should never be uttered about this franchise.
Well, Creed was obviously based on Ali, so you'd have to assume he was a longtime champion considered to be a legendary fighter. He's 1.
Clubber Lang is the dangerous slugger, but he's an unrefined fighter. Kind of an Earnie Shavers type. #2.
Drago....yeah, he looked impressive, but who did he fight? A long-retired Creed and a washed-up Balboa, who beat him? Clearly #3.
3) Clubber Lang
4) Drago
I would put Rocky Balboa after 3.
I was incredibly disappointed with 4 and thought the training methods were ridiculous and the US versus Russia idea way outdated by then.
Plus, 3 had Mickey's best line of all: "He'll knock you into tomorrow, Rock!!!"
It's funny, too, because he looked like a relatively normal boxer in the first one
"...after the third take of taking body blows, I felt a burning in my chest, but ignored it...Later that night I couldn’t breathe very well, and they took me to the emergency room...The next thing I knew I was on a low-altitude flight from Canada to St. John’s Hospital in Santa Monica, and there I resided in intensive care for eight days...He struck me so hard in the chest that my heart slammed against my breastbone and began to swell, so the beating became labored, and without medical attention the heart would’ve continued to swell until it stopped. Many people that have car accidents die like this when the steering wheel slams into their chest. So in a sense I was hit by ‘a streetcar named Drago’
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rank the 3 opponents i.e. if they were in a round robin tourney
Well, Creed was obviously based on Ali, so you'd have to assume he was a longtime champion considered to be a legendary fighter. He's 1.
Clubber Lang is the dangerous slugger, but he's an unrefined fighter. Kind of an Earnie Shavers type. #2.
Drago....yeah, he looked impressive, but who did he fight? A long-retired Creed and a washed-up Balboa, who beat him? Clearly #3.
Great reply !!
They fought twice already in Rocky III.
Yeah Lang is the up and coming Boxer in Rocky 3 that is the future of boxing. Then in Rocky 4 he doesn't exist anymore despite him being a better matchup versus Drago than Creed was.
Despite one opponent clearly getting pummeled and even being set up for punches, the refs won't step in to stop the fight
Don't duck or block too much. Just take one haymaker after another after another. It will just make you angry and more motivated and not knock a human unconscious.
Adrian is the original Debbie Downer: "You can't win!" "Stop the fight!"
An old man is dying in the locker room but the medics were all apparently on a lunch break
Punches miss by a mile (3 is the most fake looking)
That is the greatest