Curious waht our OL experts think about that idea. He's a hot name now that the ESPN report about us wanting to re-sign him came out. And I see a lot of people penciling him into RT, but if they're really considering moving Flowers to RT, would it make sense to put Pugh in at LT? For one, the left tackle market sucks. Two, Pugh seems like the kind of guy who could be serviceable in any spot you put him. If we can get serviceable at LT that would be an upgrade imv.
We could bring back Pugh and Fluker, add Norwell, and our line would be pretty much set, with depth from JJ and Wheeler. But does Pugh fill in to LT that easily?
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Justin f***ing Pugh can NOT play Left Tackle in the NFL
This is a long long way from Syracuse
I think Tom Coughlin and Pat Flaherty knew enough about it so quit wondering.
Yep, I'll go with their knowledge before desperate fans.
Geez. Why? Lol.
He was moved to G from RT. Beatty was Still the LT when he was moved
To RT. Beatty was beyond average. Maybe they should have put Pugh there and tried him but Reese re-signed Beatty. Pugh is literally the only OL Reese drafted who fit his draft slot.
Thank God he's gone.
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Justin f***ing Pugh can NOT play Left Tackle in the NFL
This is a long long way from Syracuse
I think Tom Coughlin and Pat Flaherty knew enough about it so quit wondering.
Yep, I'll go with their knowledge before desperate fans.
You mean the guys that thought Ereck Flowers was the next Tyron Smith, yeah fucking right... If they evaluated OL talent so good why in the hell did they go all in on jags like Geoff Schwartz and David Baas? Yeah I love TC but he did this OL zero justice in his last 3-5 years here in NY. Funny how Reese gets ALL the blame for that part...
You twits can convince yourself of anything to fit your chosen narrative. You badly want to believe that Pugh is a LT. He is not.
Have fun in your fantasy land.
You twits can convince yourself of anything to fit your chosen narrative. You badly want to believe that Pugh is a LT. He is not.
Have fun in your fantasy land.
Flowers would have been the RT if Beatty never got hurt... true
BUT Pugh would have played better at LT than Flowers did... fact
Just because TC went with Flowers at LT over Pugh it does not mean Pugh can’t play LT... Giants can make mistakes too and not keeping Flowers at RT and moving Pugh to LT when Beatty went down, IMO was a mistake...
Anyone who wants to argue that “TC knows best” blah blah blah... is dumb and can’t call it like they see it... any average fan with half a brain that has watched would know Pugh would have been a better LT than Flowers and there is no way in hell Flowers could have been any worse at RT than he is at LT... TC made a mistake, period. Almost everyone would have been a better LT than Flowers, ecspecially Pugh, our best linemen.
Now translating TC’s decision to have Flowers play at LT over Pugh into “Pugh can’t play LT” instead of TC made a mistake with our LT that we are still paying for 3 years later sounds like something out of fantasy land
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In comment 13829944 GeorgeAdams33 said:
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Justin f***ing Pugh can NOT play Left Tackle in the NFL
This is a long long way from Syracuse
I think Tom Coughlin and Pat Flaherty knew enough about it so quit wondering.
Yep, I'll go with their knowledge before desperate fans.
You mean the guys that thought Ereck Flowers was the next Tyron Smith, yeah fucking right... If they evaluated OL talent so good why in the hell did they go all in on jags like Geoff Schwartz and David Baas? Yeah I love TC but he did this OL zero justice in his last 3-5 years here in NY. Funny how Reese gets ALL the blame for that part...
Caughlin dint pick Flowers or sign Schwartz. Reese did. Cuaglinnplayed who the moron gave him. Nice rant though
IIRC, when Pugh was picked, he was like the 4th tackle taken. A lot of draftnics laughed at the Giants for taking 2nd round talent.
Pugh played all 4 years of college at LT.
Beatty was solid in pass pro but weak in the run game. Maybe Pugh could be an upgrade? After the '13 draft, Reese responded to challenges that Pugh was a reach by saying he'd seen all of Pugh's plays and did not see a single time that Pugh didn't succeed because of his alleged short arms. Can't bother to look now but I think Pugh performed better than the 3 tackles taken earlier.
The few times Pugh played LT, he did a solid job and was probably better than Flowers.
Those are the facts. Conjecture is if Pugh could have played LT well for an extended period of time.
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IMO, I'd let Pugh walk and pay Norwell more $ than Pugh will get for obvious reasons. We already have a backup LT.
Both groups need to invest in some new prescription glasses and learn what a head coach does vs. what a GM is supposed to do.
This is where there is revisionist history and not just among fans. Before the draft scouts almost inanimously said Flowers was best suited for RT given his raw ability and power, but lack of technique. Aftsr the draft, the Giants scouting reports and public comments said the same thing. I. OTAs and minicamp he was almost exclusively at RT. There wasnt even much talk of a future at LT. Then Beatty got hurt and they moved him there right off the bat. The Giants altered everything they wrote and said about him, now claiming he was draffed to play LT all along. They haven't looked back since...until maybe (yes, maybe) this off season.
All due respect Matt, the man was here five years, every day is an opportunity. He played LT in practice on more than one occasion, as well as in games, and he was not left at LT. These are the facts, not a position of fans wondering why and arguing semantics.
End of story.
He was a Jerry Reese draft day mistake. He's already failed at tackle, got moved to guard (where he was just OK). To me LT is the A-#1 need
Orlando Brown in the draft is terrific, but he's not a pro LT (I don't think there's anybody in the draft that's good enough to fill the hole, certainly not better than the incumbent - Ereck Flowers).
We need an upgrade, not another "Pugh mistake". The only shot we have is free agent Nate Solder.