What more does this guy have to do? We have a great value at his contract for the level of player he is. Outside of Beckham he might be the most athletic man on the roster. Has close down speed, reliable in coverage (6-7 picks in 2016) and is a good player to have opposite Jenkins. With a better pass rush him and Jenkins have close to lockdown potential on most matchups. So why again do we find him as a potential cut in the offseason? If you lose him I have a hard time seeing a comparable player at the same price tag. You would be downgrading a strength of this team.
Apple hasn't proven shit.
Only cut DRC if we are gonna "tank" which isn't even a thing in the NFL
That's a lot of bubble worthiness.
In his defense, after the suspension he did make lots of effort to prove himself worthy of not being cut; caveat: he has turned it up before to be able to get by, so is it real or is it an act?
I think he deserves a shot, maybe also a new lower contract.
Yea I never understood why he wasn’t getting apples snaps on the outside this year. It made no sense to me to move a good cover corner inside only to be replaced by Apple who couldn’t cover anyone. Guess they like him in the a lot for whatever reason but he would be an excellent FS imo
That's a lot of bubble worthiness.
In his defense, after the suspension he did make lots of effort to prove himself worthy of not being cut; caveat: he has turned it up before to be able to get by, so is it real or is it an act?
I think he deserves a shot, maybe also a new lower contract.
The suspension was clown stuff to begin with - if it really was over him wanting to come back into a game and being told no and what ensued after.
I've been hearing rumors or innuendos for a few years now that he would be cut or traded. I really don't know why.
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Cockrell was the outside CB opposite Jenkins. If the Giants do bring in a new slot corner moving DRC to free safety could be a savvy move that pays dividends later.
Yea I never understood why he wasn’t getting apples snaps on the outside this year. It made no sense to me to move a good cover corner inside only to be replaced by Apple who couldn’t cover anyone. Guess they like him in the a lot for whatever reason but he would be an excellent FS imo
covering the slot is a whole different skillset vs covering outside. Covering outside is largely turning and running with the WR and having the speed to catch up. In the slot the receiver can cut or break in any direction at anytime, so you have to be far more quick-twitch being able to rapidly change direction.
Good ballhawk with speed though...it’s not like we have stud FS tacklers on this roster to begin with.
And I love DRC.
Rarely gets beat; he's a team (not me first) guy.
There's a lot of others I'd give the boot to before him.
It's been beat writer and BBI speculation for at least 2 years. I want him back.
It's been beat writer and BBI speculation for at least 2 years. I want him back.
For a team needing talent, letting DRC go to save a couple million only to have to spend the same money saved to replace him makes no sense.
We have no idea what our new DC is looking for in players. He may really like DRC and want him as part of the new D.
Even the last game of the year, Cockrell and Dixon were the starting CB's, DRC was on the sidelines in base D.
If they cut it trade Apple then I would keep DRC but otherwise I think he may be gone.
They kicked him inside to slot CB to help take some wear and tear off of him, as he was constantly getting dinged the season before. Which created tension between him and the coaches for taking himself out of games (there was already clashing personalities, which I'd mentioned at the time ... and it got him shopped around the following offseason, they tried to get an OT for him). He's redeemed himself ever since, by most indications.
It was also about giving help to the rookie Apple, because playing boundary corner means he's got the sideline as an "extra defender" as an assist.
I like the way he plays, I would like to see him in the backfield for a few years more if he has it in him and is a good locker room guy etc.
Norwell shouldn't factor into keeping DRC. We can afford Norwell without making any cuts. Of course some players will be cut to create additional space and not earning the contract they signed. But signing a FA like Norwell isn't an either/or decision.
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There are other players they should cut first. But this isn't even an issue. They won't need to cut anyone to do that deal even if he got the best deal in the league for a guard.
He is a cover guy more then a center fielder and he makes his picks jumping routes. He also is very good at timing blitzes though he doesn't always get home. My vision for this defense is to have a deep S, Jenkins and another man to man corner on the outside and Collins and DRC all over the middle of field, saftey, LB, slot, on the line. I want QB's to come to the line surprised by where those 2 are.
I agree that it's not just about Norwell...but it's not like he's the only guy the Giants need to sign to re-vamp their roster...
No other NFL team is paying anywhere near that for a guy who plays as little as DRC...
Again - I'm not arguing that DRC isn't a good player...what I am saying is that the Giants need to reallocate those funds to guys that play more often and can make a bigger impact.
DRC is a luxury the Giants can't afford.
I agree that it's not just about Norwell...but it's not like he's the only guy the Giants need to sign to re-vamp their roster...
The solution isn't going to come from signing 10 expensive free agents. They have a good amount of money to work with, and avenues to create more room where they need it.
No other NFL team is paying anywhere near that for a guy who plays as little as DRC...
We have snap counts for this.
DRC played 55% of all defensive snaps.
Jenkins 56.17%
Cockrell 61.62%
Apple 58.89%
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/nyg/2017-snap-counts.htm
Zero, I repeat, zero int's last season....
One, I repeat, one PD......
Another year older....he has missed time on the field the last two seasons, with various injuries.....
But, you just can't cut him, without having someone to replace him with, either....
This is one of those decisions, where you can use his cap to sign someone in a position of need, like OL.....but while strengthening one position, you weaken another.....
Every move this GM/HC makes will be under a microscope.....many want lightning in a bottle......what direction will this team take? Quick fixes or try to rebuild this team to respectability?
Let's put it like this - he's behind Cockrell, Cockrell is a FA, who do you want to pay.
Let's put it like this - he's behind Cockrell, Cockrell is a FA, who do you want to pay.
Behind Cockrell in what? I don't think you're going to find anyone to agree with you that Cockrell is a better football player.
Would love to get Butler, but he will be too expensive....
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This year his dead cap space $ is much less then last year. He would free up about $6mm in Cap space I think.
Let's put it like this - he's behind Cockrell, Cockrell is a FA, who do you want to pay.
Behind Cockrell in what? I don't think you're going to find anyone to agree with you that Cockrell is a better football player.
The way Cockrell played last year it would be close. I'm for keeping DRC whether at FS or slot CB. I also wouldn't mind a restructure to add a year or two at say $2 or $3 per average. He is a good football player. Slot is a tough position to cover.