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sxdxca : 2/14/2018 10:02 am
I spent about an hour dissecting the starting current 32 QB's in the NFL and there injuries.

Here is a list of some of the better QB's who have suffered a concussion , and are still playing , not missing significant time.

#1 Jay Cutler = 4 concussions , 2006 2010 2012 2017 , also 3 concussions in college while playing at Vanderbilt , hasn't missed significant playing time.

#2 Ben Roethlisberger 3 concussions 2006 2009 2012 , only missed 1 game.

#3 Jared Goff 1 concussion 2016

#4 Alex Smith 2 concussions 2012 , 2016 , only missed 1 game

#5 Philip Rivers 1 concussion 2017

#6 Tyrod Taylor 1 concussion in 2018

#7 Joe Flacco 1 concussion 2017

#8 Cam Newton 1 concussion 2016

#9 Derek Carr 1 concussion 2014

#10 Case Keenum 1 concussion 2015

#11 Aaron Rodgers 2 concussions in 2010

#12 Carson Palmer concussion in 2016 missed 1 game

And finally Tom Brady , in 17 years of playing , he has never reported a concussion , so people think he's fine. But that isn't the truth, he has suffered multiple concussions in his career , they just aren't reporting it.

Here is a direct quote from his wife , and I linked it at the bottom of the page.

"He had a concussion last year. He has concussions pretty much every -- I mean, we don't talk about it. He does have concussions," Bundchen said on "CBS This Morning" on Wednesday. "I don't really think it's a healthy thing for a body to go through that kind of aggression all the time. That could not be healthy for you."

The bottom line is , outside of Eli Manning , any QB you draft is gonna more than likely suffer a concussion. After doing the research , many QB's can play through it , and it doesn't shorten your career.

Is it good for you? Of course not , but the FACTS are the majority of these QB's are playing with them , and still playing at a high level.

P.S. , I know the majority of you here want to have an intellectual conversation about this subject , and I will reply to you , even if you disagree with me. But if you want to start cussing at me , and calling me names , I don't respond to immature childish behavior. I only deal with respectful posters , who have an above average IQ
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You spent an hour?  
Diver_Down : 2/14/2018 10:04 am : link
I wish I could get my 5 minutes back for reading this thread.
Fine, that still doesn't mean that teams  
Section331 : 2/14/2018 10:06 am : link
are not going to be concerned about Rosen's recent concussions, especially given that he had 2 in 4 weeks.
Can you please link the article you mentioned  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:06 am : link
Yesterday about Mitch Berger and how Rodgers had concussions before the NFL?

TIA
Concussion injury stats  
Jolly Blue Giant : 2/14/2018 10:07 am : link
Are not relevant until about 2 seasons ago when they actually started enforcing strict protocols.
So, Jay Cutler is Captain Concussion  
Dr. D : 2/14/2018 10:07 am : link
maybe that explains a lot.

This shouldn't be a new thread,  
barens : 2/14/2018 10:08 am : link
who's running this joint anyway?
at least for one stat  
Dr. D : 2/14/2018 10:10 am : link
"I'm #1!"

- Jay Cutler
You have completely missed..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:11 am : link
the point.

Which of those guys were up for selection with the #2 pick with known concussion issues in college?

Information we know now is more valuable than that list, which really serves little purpose.

What would've been a better use of an hour or more would be to compile a list of QB's with concussion concerns in college who were drafted and didn't have issues. Better yet - top QB prospects.

Or, why not list those QB's at the top of the draft who had major shoulder surgery and became superstars.

These daily threads are becoming ponderous. Fucking ponderous.

And hell...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:13 am : link
if you completely made up that Rodgers had concussions before the NFL, how the fuck are we sure you did such a crack job on compiling the list foisted on us today?

Still waiting for that bullshit claim to get posted as you said you would yesterday when you were too fucking tired.
Fatman  
Dr. D : 2/14/2018 10:14 am : link
re: "Fucking ponderous", he specifically requested no concussing, I mean cussing, at him.
It's not the concussions with Rosen  
HoodieGelo : 2/14/2018 10:16 am : link
it's the shoulder. THE SHOULDER! Listen, I respect the post but if you look at the fine details, Rosen is still more concussion-prone than all these guys except maybe Jay Cutler. The last thing I want to do is compare my future QB to Jay Cutler...in any way.

Like I said, I don't really care much about the concussions. The issue with Rosen is his shoulder. That's it. The concussion stuff is just icing on the cake.
maybe  
Dr. D : 2/14/2018 10:17 am : link
we should be looking for the guy with the MOST concussions in college.

That would mean he's a tough son of a bitch.
RE: It's not the concussions with Rosen  
Diver_Down : 2/14/2018 10:20 am : link
In comment 13832055 HoodieGelo said:
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it's the shoulder. THE SHOULDER! Listen, I respect the post but if you look at the fine details, Rosen is still more concussion-prone than all these guys except maybe Jay Cutler. The last thing I want to do is compare my future QB to Jay Cutler...in any way.

Like I said, I don't really care much about the concussions. The issue with Rosen is his shoulder. That's it. The concussion stuff is just icing on the cake.


We are all expecting a "Trashing Part 3" to detail shoulder concerns.
Took an hour to compile thisblist  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:20 am : link
Yet can find a few minutes to link an article of Rodgers concussions prior to the NFL that you were passing along as FACT.

Me thinks your definition of FACT is not the same as most.
sxdxca ( Simo)  
Bill2 : 2/14/2018 10:22 am : link
What does the medical profession say about the long term cognition of athletes whose concussions come before the brain reaches fully maturity neurologically ( about 24 years of age)???

Careful...careful...takes sifting through a lot of information
figgy..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:23 am : link
Ironically, he was able to easily post an article detailing Brady's supposed concussions.

Yet an article that was "right in front of him" the dude can't figure out what to fucking do with it.
*Yet can’t find a few minutes  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:24 am : link
I hate typing from my phone.

I am assuming this thread is a “hit and run”? No response back from the OP after all this FACT finding
And shit..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:25 am : link
if Bill is right, we're being trolled by simo again.

I bet I can post a factual article about a Dad ripping off the elderly before he can post one with Rodgers having previous concussions.
Aaah this is one of Simo’s handles  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:25 am : link
Makes sense
RE: And shit..  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:26 am : link
In comment 13832067 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if Bill is right, we're being trolled by simo again.

I bet I can post a factual article about a Dad ripping off the elderly before he can post one with Rodgers having previous concussions.


Yup, comes right up after a simple google search, unlike the Mitch Berger article.
RE: And shit..  
Diver_Down : 2/14/2018 10:29 am : link
In comment 13832067 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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if Bill is right, we're being trolled by simo again.

I bet I can post a factual article about a Dad ripping off the elderly before he can post one with Rodgers having previous concussions.


I think Bill is right. Certain posters have a style and when I was reading through their trashing threads, it seemed very familiar. But then I checked the handle and it was created in 2012. Of course, that doesn't eliminate Simo as the troll has a library of handles that he can fall back on.
RE: Can you please link the article you mentioned  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 10:33 am : link
In comment 13832031 figgy2989 said:
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Yesterday about Mitch Berger and how Rodgers had concussions before the NFL?

TIA


Dear Figgy ,

Thanks for showing some respect , here is the article about Rodgers High School and College concussions....

http://www.huliq.com/10282/aaron-rodgers-one-concussion-away-medical-retirement-packers-sell-stock

RE: RE: Can you please link the article you mentioned  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13832080 sxdxca said:
Quote:
In comment 13832031 figgy2989 said:


Quote:


Yesterday about Mitch Berger and how Rodgers had concussions before the NFL?

TIA



Dear Figgy ,

Thanks for showing some respect , here is the article about Rodgers High School and College concussions....

http://www.huliq.com/10282/aaron-rodgers-one-concussion-away-medical-retirement-packers-sell-stock



link on Rodgers - ( New Window )
Foisted  
JonC : 2/14/2018 10:34 am : link
!!
RE: RE: Can you please link the article you mentioned  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 10:35 am : link
In comment 13832080 sxdxca said:
Quote:
In comment 13832031 figgy2989 said:


Quote:


Yesterday about Mitch Berger and how Rodgers had concussions before the NFL?

TIA



Dear Figgy ,

Thanks for showing some respect , here is the article about Rodgers High School and College concussions....

http://www.huliq.com/10282/aaron-rodgers-one-concussion-away-medical-retirement-packers-sell-stock


Also Figgy , I responded to you , but I refuse to reply to the FatMan , until he learns how to show some respect. As of right now I don't respect him , until he learns....
RE: Can you please link the article you mentioned  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13832031 figgy2989 said:
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Yesterday about Mitch Berger and how Rodgers had concussions before the NFL?

TIA


And I'm at work , so I won't be able to respond till later today
LOL..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:36 am : link
the article says nothing about Rodgers having a concussion prior to being drafted.

Do you think we are stupid?
This is all..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 10:38 am : link
Berger said:

Quote:
Dr. Mitchel Berger, a member the National Football League’s Head, Neck and Spine Medical Committee and chairman of the department of neurological surgery at the University of California, San Francisco School of Medicine said NFL players like Rodgers who suffer concussions must go through rigorous testing before returning to the field,” reported foxnews.com during the lead up to last year’s Super Bowl.


Nothing about previous concussions. You want me to learn respect? Fuck you.
HA!  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:38 am : link
Read the second comment at the end of that article.

The article Is filled with inaccuracies and the author has no evidence of prior concussions...

Hey it’s on the internet...  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:39 am : link
It must be true!
Re: List of current NFL QB's playing with concussions...  
mrvax : 2/14/2018 10:41 am : link
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P.S. , I know the majority of you here want to have an intellectual conversation about this subject , and I will reply to you , even if you disagree with me. But if you want to start cussing at me , and calling me names , I don't respond to immature childish behavior. I only deal with respectful posters , who have an above average IQ
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Nice. How your last requirement conveniently boots me out of the discussion.
Seriously if you want respect  
figgy2989 : 2/14/2018 10:41 am : link
You should probably delete this thread and you part 1 and part 2 bashing Rosen threads.
RE: You have completely missed..  
Matt M. : 2/14/2018 10:43 am : link
In comment 13832045 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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the point.

Which of those guys were up for selection with the #2 pick with known concussion issues in college?

Information we know now is more valuable than that list, which really serves little purpose.

What would've been a better use of an hour or more would be to compile a list of QB's with concussion concerns in college who were drafted and didn't have issues. Better yet - top QB prospects.

Or, why not list those QB's at the top of the draft who had major shoulder surgery and became superstars.

These daily threads are becoming ponderous. Fucking ponderous.
Very well put.
To me the fact that there is  
Tom from LI : 2/14/2018 10:46 am : link
more than just concussion injury concerns.. rules him out at #2 for me. Also the fact that there has to be a daily thread in support of Josh makes me want him in Blue less.

Let the Giant leadership perform their due diligence and whom ever they select I will be good with.



A few thoughts  
Matt M. : 2/14/2018 10:48 am : link
1) As FatMan points out, this list is not necessarily comprehensive or correct

2) Also as he points out, it isn't factoring concussions prior to the draft or other QB prospects who had concussions prior to the draft.

3) The bottom line is, Rosen has already had at least 2 concussions we know about prior to the draft, with the most recent considered severe. That puts him at a much higher risk than almost everyone on the list and everyone else being considered in the draft.

4) Besides the concussions, the shoulder worries me as much. The shoulder is probably the most delicate joint in the body. It never is truly healed and the risk of re-injury or new injury is great.

5) I think talent-wise, decision making, etc. Rosen is the most NFL ready prospect and perhaps the best...right now. However, the risks given his injury history, already, are too great to invest the future in.
#8 Cam Newton 1 concussion 2016?  
Chris in Philly : 2/14/2018 10:52 am : link
One? Cam Newton has more concussions than the Simos have BBI handles.
....  
BigBlueDownTheShore : 2/14/2018 10:54 am : link
RE: RE: RE: Can you please link the article you mentioned  
Section331 : 2/14/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13832081 sxdxca said:
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link on Rodgers - ( New Window )


I'm at a loss as to how you think that link supports your argument that Rosen's concussions don't matter. If anything, that link screams "stay away!".
Sxdxca  
est1986 : 2/14/2018 11:24 am : link
With more propaganda to prop up Rosen as if it’s needed.
And probably half that list  
UConn4523 : 2/14/2018 11:31 am : link
happened before the stringent concussion protocol. But carry on.
RE: Sxdxca  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 11:54 am : link
In comment 13832141 est1986 said:
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With more propaganda to prop up Rosen as if it’s needed.


A poster has challenged me to provide an example of a top rated college quarterback that had concussion issues prior to being drafted.

If he had fully read my post , Jay Cutler had 3 co concussions in college.

Yet he was drafted in the 1st rd , and has suffered 4 more concussions and has played 12 seasons in the NFL.
Wow  
Boatie Warrant : 2/14/2018 11:55 am : link
The only thing these threads have done is support not drafting Rosen. Not sure what his medicals really are but the picture these threads are painting make more of a case against going anyway near the guy.

I hope Gettlemen gets this draft right.......
Just  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 2/14/2018 11:58 am : link
stop
And yet..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 12:00 pm : link
there still isn't any evidence supporting this claim:

Quote:
Dear Figgy ,

Thanks for showing some respect , here is the article about Rodgers High School and College concussions.


Not only did you post a bullshit article, but even in that article, it only details Rodgers concussions in 2010, of which there isn't any debate.

You have now claimed in two threads that Rodgers had a history of concussions before the NFL and there is NO evidence to support it. In fact, I posted Rodgers himself saying his first ever concussion was 2010.
Did you not read the article????  
sxdxca : 2/14/2018 12:06 pm : link
It specifically said Rodgers who had a history of concussions in High school and college , by the medical scout working at Cal where Rodgers played , oh my gosh, geez read the whole article. You r making yourself look bad , do u read???
So we can draft Rosen at #2 and hope  
Mike from Ohio : 2/14/2018 12:11 pm : link
he turns into the next Jay Cutler?

I agree wholeheartedly with sxdxca. Rosen is way too much of a risk to draft at #2. Excellent points all the way around!
Here's what I read...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 12:19 pm : link
which appears top be the author's own storytelling:

Quote:
In turn, Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow is also “one concussion” away from being sent into early NFL retirement. Tebow’s many concussions -- as both a high school and college player are legend -- as are Rodgers who started suffering brain trauma while playing "QB" at Pleasant Valley High School in northern California.


And even in that errant blurb (with no supporting evidence), it isn't even called a concussion - it is called "brain trauma", even though there isn't anything to corroborate the author's slanted take. That isn't a quote from a medical person. And hell, in the same article, they say Rodgers has been called by ESPN as "one of the most concussion prone athletes in history"! Are you fucking kidding me with this shit?

RE: Did you not read the article????  
Section331 : 2/14/2018 12:19 pm : link
In comment 13832193 sxdxca said:
Quote:
It specifically said Rodgers who had a history of concussions in High school and college , by the medical scout working at Cal where Rodgers played , oh my gosh, geez read the whole article. You r making yourself look bad , do u read???


Again, I'm not sure why you think an article that purports that Rodgers is considering retiring due to concussions is a good argument that Rosen's concussions don't matter. Seems a little counterintuitive to me.
You..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 12:21 pm : link
might have guessed that the article was bogus just by the headline itself:

Aaron Rodgers one concussion away from medical retirement, as Packers sell stock

And you are so much of an ignorant putz that you think that article is legit and that people who didn't read it look bad?

Fuck me with a stick.

Hard.
And again..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 2/14/2018 12:28 pm : link
I'm spending way too much time refuting a Simo whose fucking Father stole from the elderly, but any legitimacy in this smoking gun article the asswipe posted should have evaporated with this little nugget:

Quote:
Meanwhile, there’s numerous ESPN reports about Rodgers and his concussions in early 2011 -- when sportscasters stated -- “there’s no way that Rodgers will recover from that hit (concussion).”


Jesus Christ. Sportscasters said Rodgers will never recover from a hit?? Really, where the fuck do you dig this shit up - is it part of the propoganda articles Dad used to bilk Aunt Mona?
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