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giantsFC : 2/27/2018 11:55 pm
Different coaches and medical yet same injury issues so far. Swarzak, Cespedes join the other 10 guys w injuries.

And pitching looks like it has A LOT of work to do already. This zen master Callaway is either going to back his talk w an epic career or become a complete joke in 2 years.
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Conforto  
pjcas18 : 3/12/2018 5:44 pm : link
said he's way ahead of where they want/expect him to be at this point.

Hopefully not youthful exuberance, and he's really ready sooner rather than later.

Conforto  
giantsFC : 3/12/2018 10:34 pm : link
Iíll Believe he is able to play at a dominate level again from that injury repair when I see it. until then this team is still a poorly assembled lineup of good power hitters that would kill it in a 90ís era video game
Adrian Gonzalez  
giantsFC : 3/13/2018 4:52 pm : link
Doesn't look to good so far. Neither does Reyes. Hopefully just the classic verterans ST where they are working on refining weaknesses

Thor looked good again. Hopefully injuries behind him. All the pitchers today looked ok.
To any fathers here with kids  
Shecky : 3/13/2018 6:37 pm : link
This will put it all in perspective for you and remind you - through struggles etc why you donít boo a ball player. At least the good guys.

Frazier is walking to ďworkĒ just now. Turns around when he hears his little girls screaming ďdaddy daddy daddyĒ as they come running through the parking lot. The look on his face as they both grabbed his legs was absolutely priceless. Theyíre ballplayers. But still normal people with normal jobs. Who have to say ďdaddy has to go to work nowĒ too just like you and I.

Time for warmups and stretches...

Z, itís all yours tonight.
I think the Frazier signing could be a really good one  
Eric on Li : 3/13/2018 6:40 pm : link
I know many would have preferred Moustakas, but I'm not entirely convinced either way (money aside).
People that boo at players are idiots.  
PhiPsi125 : 3/13/2018 7:10 pm : link
Never understood the need to boo another human being while they are doing their job.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:15 pm : link
Gun is probably hot but Wheeler is hitting 99.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:21 pm : link
And he's also got two of 3 runners on base against him... I feel like I never see this guy throw a quick, clean inning.

Everyone stealing on him.
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Shecky : 3/13/2018 7:23 pm : link
In comment 13863113 arcarsenal said:
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Gun is probably hot but Wheeler is hitting 99.

Highest read Iíve seen tonight is 97
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Shecky : 3/13/2018 7:24 pm : link
In comment 13863132 arcarsenal said:
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And he's also got two of 3 runners on base against him... I feel like I never see this guy throw a quick, clean inning.

Everyone stealing on him.


Huge focus on runners all spring. Holding. Changing timing to plate. One guys is just not getting it. At all
Frazier  
Shecky : 3/13/2018 7:26 pm : link
Right there. The mound visit. Like Hernandez used to do. Thatís why he was signed. Oh, and his ask dropped like s rock.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:26 pm : link
Another run scores.

Preparing myself for another year of being the Nats' bitch.

Weeeeee
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:27 pm : link
And another hit.

Looks like the same old Wheeler to me. I don't want him in the rotation.
Hope vegas  
Shecky : 3/13/2018 7:27 pm : link
Humbled him.
He needs it
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:28 pm : link
And another hit. And another run.

LOL.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 7:42 pm : link
Much better 2nd.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 8:06 pm : link
Annnnnd back to pure trash in the 3rd.
Outside of Thor and DeGrom, the Mets donít really have much  
PhiPsi125 : 3/13/2018 9:24 pm : link
to be inspired about. Harvey, Wheeler, Montero have all had a poor spring training thus far. Lugo has done alright and Gsellman has been meh. And then thereís...Vargas. Hard to figure how the rotation is going to fare this season.

I have no idea what to think about the bullpen, aside from the fact that most of them stink. Blevins and Sewald canít pitch every night.

The offense is also hard to figure out. I feel like the offense should be good but I just canít get there. I almost expect another season of a lot of HRs, a lot of strikeouts, low batting average and streaky as hell.

Itís a weird team.
And Scherzer is still filthy as hell.  
PhiPsi125 : 3/13/2018 9:26 pm : link
Best FA signing in the history of baseball.
500 season  
spike : 3/13/2018 9:26 pm : link
here we go!
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 9:29 pm : link
Getting our clocks cleaned by WSH yet again.

Can't remember the last time we beat this team in ST or the reg season. Maybe 2015...

Fun times.
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arcarsenal : 3/13/2018 9:30 pm : link
Nice to see Rosario go deep, though!
RE: Outside of Thor and DeGrom, the Mets donít really have much  
Eric on Li : 3/13/2018 9:38 pm : link
In comment 13863447 PhiPsi125 said:
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to be inspired about. Harvey, Wheeler, Montero have all had a poor spring training thus far. Lugo has done alright and Gsellman has been meh. And then thereís...Vargas. Hard to figure how the rotation is going to fare this season.

I have no idea what to think about the bullpen, aside from the fact that most of them stink. Blevins and Sewald canít pitch every night.

The offense is also hard to figure out. I feel like the offense should be good but I just canít get there. I almost expect another season of a lot of HRs, a lot of strikeouts, low batting average and streaky as hell.

Itís a weird team.


The back of the BP is worrying but they should have some time to sort things out. If the SP stays healthy I think they are good enough to get to post-season.

The everyday defense should be a little better this year and the lineup should be very slightly lower K (mostly thanks to dumping Duda). Really though, the main improvement in that area is going to have to come from the young guys. Nimmo (28%), Rosario (29%), Conforto (26%), and Dom Smith (27%) had the highest K-rates on the team.
RE: Outside of Thor and DeGrom, the Mets donít really have much  
giantsFC : 3/13/2018 11:30 pm : link
In comment 13863447 PhiPsi125 said:
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The offense is also hard to figure out. I feel like the offense should be good but I just canít get there. I almost expect another season of a lot of HRs, a lot of strikeouts, low batting average and streaky as hell.

Itís a weird team.


I feel the same way right now. Itís like a hodgepodge of parts that donít quite fit to make a machine work.
Cespedes getting a cortisone  
Metnut : 3/14/2018 9:44 am : link
shot in his wrist. Can't you only get a limited number of those during a season? It's only March 14 and he's already going to that well.

Ehalt says Callaway knew that Cespedes wrist was sore but played him anyway on Sunday. WTF is wrong with this team? Why would you play Cespedes if his wrist hurt in a fucking spring training game? Even a regular season game you'd have to sit him.

I don't get it. A healthy Cespedes is worth an extra 3-5 wins compared to next man up. How can they be so reckless?

Shecky is right about the media  
pjcas18 : 3/14/2018 9:45 am : link
they know the fans eat this up. but either your transparent or not, you can't call yourself transparent and then lie.

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Anthony DiComo
‏Verified account @AnthonyDiComo
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For all their commitment to transparency/prudence regarding injuries, the Mets:

-Had Cespedes play through a wrist sore enough to need cortisone
-Cut off a media interview with him about it after 90 seconds
-Did not inform Mickey Callaway that he had an x-ray until hours later
From the Mayo clinic (on cortisone shots)  
Metnut : 3/14/2018 10:24 am : link
"The injections usually comprise a corticosteroid medication and a local anesthetic. Often, you can receive a cortisone shot at your doctor's office. Because of potential side effects, the number of shots you can receive in one year generally is limited."

"There's concern that repeated cortisone shots might cause the cartilage within a joint to deteriorate. So doctors typically limit the number of cortisone shots into a joint.

In general, you shouldn't get cortisone injections more often than every six weeks and usually not more than three or four times a year."


https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/cortisone-shots/about/pac-20384794 - ( New Window )
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 11:06 am : link
Cespedes has quickly become a guy that I'm not sure we can rely on. He can't go 15 games without getting banged up.

I love the player but it seems like he's so seldom 100% and the healthy stretches are getting fewer and farther between now.
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Metnut : 3/14/2018 11:12 am : link
In comment 13864452 arcarsenal said:
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Cespedes has quickly become a guy that I'm not sure we can rely on. He can't go 15 games without getting banged up.

I love the player but it seems like he's so seldom 100% and the healthy stretches are getting fewer and farther between now.


I know.

It's frustrating because he has MVP level upside. He's become a better hitter as he's gotten older but he just can't stay healthy.

This wrist injury likely isn't the end of the world, but I'm getting worked up over it because they played him in a spring training game after knowing about it.
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Section331 : 3/14/2018 11:15 am : link
In comment 13864452 arcarsenal said:
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Cespedes has quickly become a guy that I'm not sure we can rely on. He can't go 15 games without getting banged up.

I love the player but it seems like he's so seldom 100% and the healthy stretches are getting fewer and farther between now.


Agreed, but most of his issues last year were leg-related. I remember watching his workout videos on FB last offseason and wondering what the hell he was doing. OF's don't need to squat 600 lbs. Hopefully he has learned form that.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 11:22 am : link
Yeah, he was training like a bodybuilder instead of a baseball player last year - made no sense.

Just seems like something always creeps up.

He fucked up his shoulder at the end of the NLCS vs. CHC too - and he was clearly injured during the WS (couldn't hit a lick) which cost us big time.

So, we've now had quad issues, hamstring issues, shoulder issues, AND wrist issues.

That's a lot.
Mets have a pretty brutal  
pjcas18 : 3/14/2018 11:42 am : link
lineup without Cespedes.

Though I'd love to see Nimmo break out at the MLB level, not with the power of Cespedes, but at least as a high OBP guy who can lead off with some pop and play plus D in CF.

That way even though the lineup is weaker, the team has legit major league options and not just a platoon guy like Lagares.

Conforto, Nimmo and Bruce wouldn't be an awful OF if Nimmo holds his own or more an Conforto comes back as pre-injury Conforto.
Just in case anyone missed it  
Shecky : 3/14/2018 11:57 am : link
I think I mentioned the other day they were holding off on cuts until after the SS yesterday. They are now official:

Flexen, Alonso, Kaz, Maz, Thompson, Bashlor and Borenstein sent down.
Bad first inning for Matz  
Metnut : 3/14/2018 1:40 pm : link
today against the Marlins. He's looked unimpressive all spring IMO.

Right now, I think the best rotation would be Thor, DeGrom, Harvey, Vargas, Lugo. There's not a lot of depth behind that as I havn't seen much out of Wheeler, Montero, Gsellmen or Matz to inspire confidence. Wheeler's stuff looks nasty at least, so I think he'd by the 6th man, or maybe you let him start the year and use Lugo as the long man.
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 1:44 pm : link
So much for that "mechanical adjustment"...
Thereís no way Iíd let Wheeler pitch over Lugo.  
PhiPsi125 : 3/14/2018 1:53 pm : link
Wheeler hasnít earned shit and heís sucked this spring. Lugo has at least pitched well.
Clean second inning  
Metnut : 3/14/2018 1:53 pm : link
with 2Ks. Cmon Steve! Show us something!
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Shecky : 3/14/2018 3:06 pm : link
In comment 13865147 arcarsenal said:
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So much for that "mechanical adjustment"...


Lol
Hey arc, mind reverse jinxing them BEFORE the games start ;)
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13865468 Shecky said:
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In comment 13865147 arcarsenal said:


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So much for that "mechanical adjustment"...



Lol
Hey arc, mind reverse jinxing them BEFORE the games start ;)


LOL, I know you're waiting for my daily dose of negativity... so here it is!

Looking like another day, another loss, and 0 runs on the board. Still can't hit. Woooooooo! :)
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:09 pm : link
At least it looks like Matz did get it together. I just gotta get my reverse jinxes in there earlier !
Five run homerun  
Shecky : 3/14/2018 3:11 pm : link
To lead off the next inning and youíre hired as a full time reverse jinxer. Deal? I talk to Ricco for you right now
RE: Five run homerun  
arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:25 pm : link
In comment 13865497 Shecky said:
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To lead off the next inning and youíre hired as a full time reverse jinxer. Deal? I talk to Ricco for you right now


What if we just avoid getting shut out?

I think I have value!
Yanks released Adam Lind, kick the tires?  
Section331 : 3/14/2018 3:37 pm : link
I mean, he can't be worse than A-Gone, right?
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arcarsenal : 3/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
There's the run in the 9th inning.

Damn I'm good.
No to Lind  
pjcas18 : 3/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
and no to A-Gone.

If Smith's hamstring or groin or whatever it was is healed you have Smith as the starter and Bruce and Flores as insurance.

that's it.

Long-term if Smith fails Alonso is the guy.
LOL arc did it!!!!  
Shecky : 3/14/2018 3:42 pm : link
Now letís see the kid with a big hit
Robbed of a hit  
Shecky : 3/14/2018 3:43 pm : link
Good swing kid
Cespedes  
giantsFC : 3/15/2018 10:55 am : link
Ugh. He is falling apart as we speak. There are minor injuries and then there are met minor injuries (meaning cortisone shots or platelet rich injections that tske weeks and months to ďminorlyĒ heal.

I thought they fixed these issues w their firing of met medical and hiring of jack LaLanne?
1B  
giantsFC : 3/15/2018 11:00 am : link
Flores or bust? Gonzalez Surely gets a chance to see if itís just a rust slump right? Or is he done? Looks bad.

RE: Cespedes  
spike : 3/15/2018 12:21 pm : link
In comment 13867170 giantsFC said:
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Ugh. He is falling apart as we speak. There are minor injuries and then there are met minor injuries (meaning cortisone shots or platelet rich injections that tske weeks and months to ďminorlyĒ heal.

I thought they fixed these issues w their firing of met medical and hiring of jack LaLanne?


Its ST. They shiuld give Ces ample time to heal instead of okaying through injuries..
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