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giantsFC : 2/27/2018 11:55 pm
Different coaches and medical yet same injury issues so far. Swarzak, Cespedes join the other 10 guys w injuries.

And pitching looks like it has A LOT of work to do already. This zen master Callaway is either going to back his talk w an epic career or become a complete joke in 2 years.
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RE: Are Rosario/Dom rookie eligible?  
DanMetroMan : 3/8/2018 1:02 pm : link
In comment 13855098 Eric on Li said:
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or did they get too many ABs last year?


Neither are eligible.
Ces  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 1:17 pm : link
Getting eaten alive all spring with junk low and away.
Not sharp  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 1:39 pm : link
At all. Very inconsistent
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arcarsenal : 3/8/2018 1:42 pm : link
Looks like some of that positivity is wearing away, Sheck! :P
Naaaaahhhhhh  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 1:57 pm : link
I jinxed it and he got it going lol

And Nimmo off the Wall rbi double
Ton  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 2:05 pm : link
Of change ups. Ton
Shecky - any thoughts on Thompson?  
Eric on Li : 3/8/2018 2:16 pm : link
supposedly his defense has become a positive. Looks like he's hitting a little bit this spring.
Drubes  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 2:17 pm : link
Hurt sliding into home. On a non play.

Plaw. Nuff said. Double off the wall
thats so mets  
DanMetroMan : 3/8/2018 2:24 pm : link
PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla. -- Mets shortstop Amed Rosario clarified the confusion surrounding his leg injury on Wednesday, saying his eagerness to recover from left knee tightness may have caused the soreness he currently feels in his groin.

"Fortunately, I feel better about my knee," Rosario said though an interpreter. "Maybe I was trying to take care of my knee so much that I felt something sore in my groin area."

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Initially when Rosario departed Saturday's game, the Mets called his issue knee weakness. The groin issue did not arise until about two days later, Rosario said, preventing him from holding to his original plan of returning to the lineup Tuesday. The shortstop continues to call himself "day to day," noting that "in a couple of days I will be back for sure."

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arcarsenal : 3/8/2018 2:27 pm : link
LOL, Mets injuries are like these superbugs that transform and attack other areas of the body once they appear.

I'm not even mad anymore, I'm really just impressed!

It doesn't sound serious, but.. well, with the Mets, I can never say that with true confidence
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pjcas18 : 3/8/2018 2:35 pm : link
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Anthony DiComo
‏Verified account @AnthonyDiComo
1m1 minute ago

Noah Syndergaard struck out the side -- Trea Turner, Bryce Harper and Anthony Rendon -- in the third inning Thursday, highlighting 3.1 shutout innings against the Nationals. His spring ERA dropped to a cool 1.08. #Mets
Nimmo  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 2:43 pm : link
For three off the wall
They  
DanMetroMan : 3/8/2018 2:47 pm : link
really should consider Bruce at 1b and Nimmo getting regular PT.
RE: Nimmo  
Eric on Li : 3/8/2018 2:48 pm : link
In comment 13855298 Shecky said:
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For three off the wall


stop ignoring my thompson questions.
I wonder the chances  
pjcas18 : 3/8/2018 2:51 pm : link
they cut Adrian Gonzalez, from what I read he's looked awful at the plate.
RE: I wonder the chances  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 2:52 pm : link
In comment 13855311 pjcas18 said:
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they cut Adrian Gonzalez, from what I read he's looked awful at the plate.

And the field
Lol. Didnt see it  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 2:54 pm : link
Thompsons looking OK. Not a favorite of too many scouts, but team likes him. Does everything soak, nothing great. A Cardinals-lite type of player. Upside is a borderline player. Downside is org depth.
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arcarsenal : 3/8/2018 2:58 pm : link
AGon sucks. I think he's pretty much toast.

Was a low-risk move to begin, but I agree that Bruce @ 1B and Nimmo getting regular PT is probably the best option.
Guillermo  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:01 pm : link
Slick slick play up the middle.
Perfect hit and run  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:06 pm : link
Turner hits into a DP. Instead it goes through 2b. Bruce walks after ball turner husteles and turns it into a double. Mannn, he shoulda been a Met
Nice stroke kid  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:22 pm : link
Lined out to Left center for nimmo
Serving up  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:26 pm : link
Meatballs
Serving up  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:27 pm : link
Meatballs
Guillermo  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:31 pm : link
RIDICULOUS!!!!!

Safe. But ump gave him the call - he earned it
Nido robbed  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 3:54 pm : link
Crushed to CF. Wind knocked it down. cF turned like four times. But made a great catch
And almost a trifecta in the field  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 4:06 pm : link
Just missed getting him st first. Three spectacular plays
RE: Guillermo  
pjcas18 : 3/8/2018 4:09 pm : link
In comment 13855372 Shecky said:
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RIDICULOUS!!!!!

Safe. But ump gave him the call - he earned it


who is this Guillermo? Is it Guillorme on auto-correct?
Picky motherf*ckers  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 4:22 pm : link
Around here!!!
RE: Picky motherf*ckers  
pjcas18 : 3/8/2018 5:26 pm : link
In comment 13855463 Shecky said:
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Around here!!!


LOL, I wasn't being picky, seriously wondering who Guillermo was.
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arcarsenal : 3/8/2018 5:29 pm : link
Breaking news  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 6:16 pm : link
Thor, is an absolute BEAST.
Cy Young
162-0
Its going to be funny when our BP sucks after trading for 300  
PhiPsi125 : 3/8/2018 6:58 pm : link
relief pitchers.

Spring training win/loss record may not mean everything but...man...it sure aint a good omen being dead last in the league after 14 games.

Very inspiring. Good to see Plawecki doing well though! Personally, I hope he puts TDA out to pasture.
RE: Breaking news  
giantsFC : 3/8/2018 9:09 pm : link
In comment 13855584 Shecky said:
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Thor, is an absolute BEAST.
Cy Young
162-0


Its Thor, so you mean 163-0

Im sick of the hype. How bouts getting in 25-30 starts first
Spring training record  
giantsFC : 3/8/2018 9:18 pm : link
Idk. I actually looked up any ST statistics on its impact of season record last year. There is a study article out there that actually did all the math on it. I think there was a high correlation to being a bad team related to spring training losses or a playoff team related to spring training wins. But it was one way and not necessarily the other too, but it still isnt a good omen. Especially after last spring training where they looked terrible and then were terrible. This year I feel they are playing more younger guys and just going for looks.

But I cant remeenr the last spring training the Mets were actually good to be honest.
RE: RE: Breaking news  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/8/2018 9:29 pm : link
In comment 13855735 giantsFC said:
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In comment 13855584 Shecky said:


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Thor, is an absolute BEAST.
Cy Young
162-0



Its Thor, so you mean 163-0

Im sick of the hype. How bouts getting in 25-30 starts first


I mean he's already done it before.
RE: Spring training record  
PhiPsi125 : 3/8/2018 9:47 pm : link
In comment 13855740 giantsFC said:
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Idk. I actually looked up any ST statistics on its impact of season record last year. There is a study article out there that actually did all the math on it. I think there was a high correlation to being a bad team related to spring training losses or a playoff team related to spring training wins. But it was one way and not necessarily the other too, but it still isnt a good omen. Especially after last spring training where they looked terrible and then were terrible. This year I feel they are playing more younger guys and just going for looks.

But I cant remeenr the last spring training the Mets were actually good to be honest.


2015, ironically. 2008 they had a good spring training record as well. Every other year down to 2006 they were mostly a .500 team or less. Sounds about right if you correlate to regular season production.
I dont think anyone ever really cares about W/Lin March  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 9:59 pm : link
I mean, everyone would rather they win. But no one really cares at the end of the day. Ask 100 execs, and all 100 would prefer a well played game that they worked on developing and lost, rather than a win that no one grew from.

Thor is so beyond special, its ridiculous. Someone mentioned none of his games have been televised, which is an absolute shame. Even some highlights would be nice for Mets fans to see. His growth this spring has been absurd.

Other than him and Nimmo, it isnt exactly an exciting spring. Not Uber prospects to watch. The three young guys to watch havent played much (Conforto, Dom and Rosario). The lack of rules, refreshing yet concerns me. Thats the negatives - which lets be honest, wed all sign up for that negative news. Its a real boring team with some incredible SP talent to drool over. I like pitching, speed and defense. One out of three aint bad.

The positives. A very professional, workmanlike spring. A ton of learning and growing. Kids are getting a chance to play. A lot of optimism from day one. The team is really enjoying the below the radar afterthought, that they know can cause some damage if everything falls the right way.
Just heard about Moose co tract  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 10:04 pm : link
Wow, sick to my stomach. Ugggghhhh
RE: Just heard about Moose co tract  
PhiPsi125 : 3/8/2018 10:24 pm : link
In comment 13855765 Shecky said:
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Wow, sick to my stomach. Ugggghhhh


One year $6.5 million with a 2nd year mutual option for $15 million.

Still would have been too rich for the Mets. Lol, gotta laugh.

80% tho
Nothing better than a game in the spring...  
Shecky : 3/8/2018 10:32 pm : link
That Moustakas deal is insane  
bhill410 : 3/9/2018 8:57 am : link
I only hope it shows some players that borass approach is not always the best for a player. At a min the guy cost himself 10 million by rejecting the qualifying offer, but I would also bet the guy had multiple offers in the 50 million range that were rejected.
Boras approach  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 9:12 am : link
has backfired before too, to an extent

Guys like Stephen Drew and Jason Varitek.

Mets could have used Moustakas, but he's not their biggest need right now and would have cost their 2nd round pick.
If, big if  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 9:53 am : link
But if he would have been willing to sign a similar deal here (99.9% he wouldnt)
Who cares that the team would have given up a post second round pick. Moose is by far the most underpaid player in baseball (non rookie deal of course) and its just a 1/2 year deal. Short and cheap. Thats insane. Who here wouldnt trade noodle armed Frazier for him 100/100 times?
RE: If, big if  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 9:55 am : link
In comment 13855992 Shecky said:
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But if he would have been willing to sign a similar deal here (99.9% he wouldnt)
Who cares that the team would have given up a post second round pick. Moose is by far the most underpaid player in baseball (non rookie deal of course) and its just a 1/2 year deal. Short and cheap. Thats insane. Who here wouldnt trade noodle armed Frazier for him 100/100 times?


Obviously pre-Frazier it made a lot more sense, but you need to have a better backup plan to not sign Frazier and wait out Moose.

Can't fault Sandy on this one. At least I can't, some people will.

Not faulting at all  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 10:00 am : link
Frazier made sense, no one can complain about signing him. Cabreras option made sense to pick up, cant blame anyone.

It talk about an offseason of reading the market and playing it well. Royals arent done yet, but for a whopping $13mm theyve signed John Jay, Lucas Duda and Moose. Short term and cheap. No stars, but three serviceable major league players for short term, dirt cheap deals. For literally one of the three years of Bruces deal. For a little bit more money than Ramos will cost that is a MAGNIFICENT offseason.
Well I'd stil rather  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 10:09 am : link
have Merandy Gonzalez and the other throw in (Cespedes?) than Ramos.

That one I do fault Sandy for, as sellers the Mets should not have "bought" Ramos for anything close to as valuable as Merandy. Even if Merandy becomes a total bust.
Bullpens are overpriced now  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 10:17 am : link
So. Erandy for a RP with closing experience and one more year of control - thats a very very fair price. The debate of whether Ramos is a good bullpen arm or not, or worth his salary - different argument.

Put it this way. Both free agents. And Swarz, a crappy career bullpen arm with a few good months signs for si liar money as Moose did. And everyday, quality player at a tough position. Crazy, yes. But thats what the market is overpaying for right now.
But you're three weeks into spring training  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 10:25 am : link
it takes balls of steel to wait this long for players to settle if you don't have a plan B and the Mets clearly didn't have a plan B to Frazier.

and some players simply don't settle (see Stephen Drew), when did he sign?

Mid-May?

I wasn't bothered that the Mets traded Merandy Gonzalez (their likely top 5 prospect this year) for a reliever who had closing experience and the extra year normally would be a plus, I was bothered it was for Ramos who has been a shitty pitcher (mostly) for almost 2 years. He had 1 good year.



Awesome news for those wanting to see Thor  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 10:26 am : link
Somehow DiComo got video of Thor from yesterday. Dont know how, but you can see his Ks at least. The change ups I thought he was throwing yesterday from RF at the bistro apparently were mostly sliders. They were pure filth, locking guys up big time. Its so scary what he is becoming. Most franchises dream of a Cy Young OR MVP candidate to build around. He is BOTH!!!
Watch the video - ( New Window )
Best thing about Thor  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 10:27 am : link
yesterday in reading about his 7 straight K's, Plawecki, Thor and I think even Eiland or Callaway said he didn't have his best stuff.

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