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giantsFC : 2/27/2018 11:55 pm
Different coaches and medical yet same injury issues so far. Swarzak, Cespedes join the other 10 guys w injuries.

And pitching looks like it has A LOT of work to do already. This zen master Callaway is either going to back his talk w an epic career or become a complete joke in 2 years.
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RE: Best thing about Thor  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 10:32 am : link
In comment 13856034 pjcas18 said:
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yesterday in reading about his 7 straight K's, Plawecki, Thor and I think even Eiland or Callaway said he didn't have his best stuff.


He was terrible warming up. Terrible. Wild high. Couldnt get comfortable.
Came out and had zero command early. Went to his secondaries and surprised himself. He is so much filthier than even he realizes. Theme this year you will see with all pitchers will be a huge adjustment. Use your legs, pitch in, and the key - learn to pitch not throw. Areas will be a massive signing teaching these kids how successful you can be without your best stuff.
So, any Mets fans want a scare?  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 10:33 am : link
DeGrom may not pitch this Sunday...

Too much positivity around here this morning.
RE: RE: Breaking news  
speedywheels : 3/9/2018 11:38 am : link
In comment 13855735 giantsFC said:
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Im sick of the hype. How bouts getting in 25-30 starts first


Good point. I mean, he's 24 years old and already has two such seasons under his belt.

He's such a slacker
Gone  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 1:24 pm : link
MVPlawecki
Did Rosario have another setback?  
Metnut : 3/9/2018 1:34 pm : link
I thought he was supposed to play today but he's not in the lineup and the beat writers are quiet.

What's the plan on 1B? If AGonz is shot, is the plan just to give Smith 500 ABs and hope for the best? Has anyone seen or heard anything about Bruce taking a lot of reps at first this spring?

Both catchers are showing some pop this spring. Given how bad hitting is for catchers across MLB lately, I think our tandem is fine.
RE: So, any Mets fans want a scare?  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13856041 Shecky said:
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DeGrom may not pitch this Sunday...

Too much positivity around here this morning.


LOL, here we go!
RE: Did Rosario have another setback?  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13856264 Metnut said:
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I thought he was supposed to play today but he's not in the lineup and the beat writers are quiet.

What's the plan on 1B? If AGonz is shot, is the plan just to give Smith 500 ABs and hope for the best? Has anyone seen or heard anything about Bruce taking a lot of reps at first this spring?

Both catchers are showing some pop this spring. Given how bad hitting is for catchers across MLB lately, I think our tandem is fine.


99% sure he made the trip today. Wasnt supposed to start, he is supposed to hit when the replacements take over.

AGone will almost certainly get a min of 4-6 weeks to make it work. Minimum.

Never had any doubt with Plaw :). Never spoke with Lucroy all winter, and theyve always loved him. Says enough about what they felt they had.

Matz looks no better than he did in first two starts. Difference is, the results. Faced the minimum so far. But has probably given up more hard hit balls today than either of his other two starts. Thats baseball.
RE: Did Rosario have another setback?  
DanMetroMan : 3/9/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13856264 Metnut said:
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I thought he was supposed to play today but he's not in the lineup and the beat writers are quiet.

What's the plan on 1B? If AGonz is shot, is the plan just to give Smith 500 ABs and hope for the best? Has anyone seen or heard anything about Bruce taking a lot of reps at first this spring?

Both catchers are showing some pop this spring. Given how bad hitting is for catchers across MLB lately, I think our tandem is fine.


I could see them adding Lind if he doesn't make NYY
Legares  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 1:51 pm : link
Being Legares. Fantastic catch
Plaw robbed  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 1:57 pm : link
Boooooo
.  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 2:52 pm : link
Matz - 4 innings, 3 hits, 0 runs.

Boy did I need to see that.
Flores  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 2:53 pm : link
with a HR off a RHP, I just wish they'd let Flores be the every day starter somewhere. 2B seems like a fair spot, deal Droobs for a reliever.
Flores has a couple of hits off righties today.  
porkman : 3/9/2018 3:42 pm : link
Good to see him hitting the ball hard off righties.

Plus, Rosario came into the game late and has 2 at bats as DH. A couple of going out but he looked good running down the line.
RE: Flores  
Metnut : 3/9/2018 4:21 pm : link
In comment 13856347 pjcas18 said:
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with a HR off a RHP, I just wish they'd let Flores be the every day starter somewhere. 2B seems like a fair spot, deal Droobs for a reliever.


I've irrationally loved Flores his whole career. Would love to get him every day starts. He's the type of low cost high upside guys that we should be giving every chance possible. He's still 26, so he's entering his prime.
I read someone say they other day  
pjcas18 : 3/9/2018 4:26 pm : link
they couldn't believe Flores was 26 already.

And for me, it was the opposite, I couldn't believe he was only 26.

The Mets signed Flores in 2007. 11 years ago, LOL.

What an IFA class that was too, Flores and Puello were the headliners, but it included Mejia, Familia, Valdespinn, and Marte.

A couple flamed out, but solid IFA class with just Flores and Familia.

it has to be tough to project 16 year old kids, but that scout(s) really did well IMO.
Rosario  
JoeMoney19 : 3/9/2018 4:26 pm : link
tentatively scheduled to play the field on Saturday.
RE: I read someone say they other day  
Eric on Li : 3/9/2018 4:49 pm : link
In comment 13856425 pjcas18 said:
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they couldn't believe Flores was 26 already.

And for me, it was the opposite, I couldn't believe he was only 26.

The Mets signed Flores in 2007. 11 years ago, LOL.

What an IFA class that was too, Flores and Puello were the headliners, but it included Mejia, Familia, Valdespinn, and Marte.

A couple flamed out, but solid IFA class with just Flores and Familia.

it has to be tough to project 16 year old kids, but that scout(s) really did well IMO.


I agree - it's crazy to me that Flores is only 26 and so rarely mentioned in the mix as a starter considering how stingy this team can be. I doubt Cabrera has much trade value, but at some point I could see them swapping him for a similarly overpriced reliever or OF'er if a need arises.
Ugh  
DanMetroMan : 3/9/2018 4:49 pm : link
wilpons killed Kipnis for Sewald lol
RE: Ugh  
Eric on Li : 3/9/2018 4:55 pm : link
In comment 13856470 DanMetroMan said:
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wilpons killed Kipnis for Sewald lol


Typical Mets. Kipins' glove at 2nd and bat hitting leadoff would both be sizable upgrades. Picking up Cabrera's option has backfired in more ways than one.

Oh well. Here's to hoping Guillorme or Cecchini suprises and turns into a really good 2b.
RE: Ugh  
arcarsenal : 3/9/2018 6:20 pm : link
In comment 13856470 DanMetroMan said:
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wilpons killed Kipnis for Sewald lol


Unreal.
I really hate these pathetic owners.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/9/2018 7:18 pm : link
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RE: If, big if  
Shecky : 3/9/2018 11:34 pm : link
In comment 13855992 Shecky said:
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But if he would have been willing to sign a similar deal here (99.9% he wouldnt)
Who cares that the team would have given up a post second round pick. Moose is by far the most underpaid player in baseball (non rookie deal of course) and its just a 1/2 year deal. Short and cheap. Thats insane. Who here wouldnt trade noodle armed Frazier for him 100/100 times?

Man, you guys miss the easy softballs sometimes...
RE: RE: RE: Breaking news  
giantsFC : 3/10/2018 1:07 am : link
In comment 13856101 speedywheels said:
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Im sick of the hype. How bouts getting in 25-30 starts first



Good point. I mean, he's 24 years old and already has two such seasons under his belt.

He's such a slacker


Im talking about after his personal ego hype train has exploded smart azz.
You can have those 7 start seasons w his shirt-less muscle beach interviews. Ill take a degrom x 2 to this point.
Clearly, its time  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 1:17 pm : link
To start panicking about EGrom
Man Jake looks good  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/11/2018 1:25 pm : link
Him and Thor at the top are as good as any in baseball.
Seems like Callaway pretty much admitted  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/11/2018 1:27 pm : link
that Smith is not going to make the team, so unless Agon has an absolute resurgence, I'd like to see a platoon with Flores at 1B.
Too bad they cant pitch 9 innings every game  
PhiPsi125 : 3/11/2018 1:28 pm : link
because our relief pitchers suck.
Make the team?  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 1:33 pm : link
Hed be lucky to see the big club pre AS break.
RE: Make the team?  
PhiPsi125 : 3/11/2018 1:36 pm : link
In comment 13858734 Shecky said:
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Hed be lucky to see the big club pre AS break.


Why is that? Especially if Agon sucks. What does he really have left to prove in Vegas? Can this team actually develop a player?
RE: Clearly, its time  
PhiPsi125 : 3/11/2018 1:38 pm : link
In comment 13858700 Shecky said:
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To start panicking about EGrom


You are such a jinx.
RE: RE: Clearly, its time  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13858741 PhiPsi125 said:
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To start panicking about EGrom



You are such a jinx.


To those. To able to watch. His arm fell off
Eiland just gave DeGrom Last Rites in the dugout  
Rob in Rockaway : 3/11/2018 1:44 pm : link
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Fast gun?  
pjcas18 : 3/11/2018 1:57 pm : link
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Anthony DiComo
‏Verified account @AnthonyDiComo
54s55 seconds ago

All told, Jacob deGrom struck out four Astros over 2.2 IP in his Grapefruit League debut. He hit 98 mph, walked one and allowed two hits and two runs. #Mets
Was sitting 94-96  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 2:05 pm : link
Hitters were not getting good swings on him at all.
I think the panic is officially put to bed.
RE: Too bad they cant pitch 9 innings every game  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 2:09 pm : link
In comment 13858726 PhiPsi125 said:
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because our relief pitchers suck.

By mid season, there will be one team in all of MLB. With a ridiculous over abundance of arms. In the rotation. In the pen. In the upper minors. And the lower minors.
One thing you will not have an issue this year with, is the tired arms in the pen. That, will be a massive chance come a
August on.
MVPlawecki  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 3:03 pm : link
Fan club sign up below. And go
RE: MVPlawecki  
Eric on Li : 3/11/2018 3:19 pm : link
In comment 13858888 Shecky said:
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Fan club sign up below. And go


Count me in. Always liked the way he took AB's and it seems like something has clicked.
Some competitive innings early  
giantsFC : 3/11/2018 4:23 pm : link
In most these games so far. But boy do they fall apart when the organizational depth and bullpen comes in. A sign of Sandy Aldersons failings as a gm or just poor luck and coaching game plans?
RE: MVPlawecki  
giantsFC : 3/11/2018 4:24 pm : link
In comment 13858888 Shecky said:
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Fan club sign up below. And go


I feel he can be a consistent contributor and maybe has finally arrived as a good WAR type player
RE: RE: MVPlawecki  
arcarsenal : 3/11/2018 9:35 pm : link
In comment 13858996 giantsFC said:
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Fan club sign up below. And go



I feel he can be a consistent contributor and maybe has finally arrived as a good WAR type player


LOL, what is a "good WAR type player" ?

Anyway.. another day, another L. What's new.

I know ST records don't matter. Just feels like we've lost nearly every game I've seen so far. Oh well.
RE: RE: RE: MVPlawecki  
Shecky : 3/11/2018 10:39 pm : link
In comment 13859295 arcarsenal said:
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Anyway.. another day, another L. What's new.

I know ST records don't matter. Just feels like we've lost nearly every game I've seen so far. Oh well.


And they say IM the jinx around here !?!?
RE: RE: RE: RE: MVPlawecki  
arcarsenal : 3/11/2018 10:50 pm : link
In comment 13859343 Shecky said:
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Anyway.. another day, another L. What's new.

I know ST records don't matter. Just feels like we've lost nearly every game I've seen so far. Oh well.



And they say IM the jinx around here !?!?


LOL, perhaps it's my fault... !
Shecky have you been to minor league camp at all?  
pjcas18 : 3/12/2018 10:42 am : link
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
12h12 hours ago

Unsurprisingly, one of the Mets players in minor league camp that the coaches are raving about is 18-year-old Mark Vientos. He was the Mets second round pick last year.


Any chance Vientos opens in St Lucie? Or will the Mets be patient with him and have him in Columbia?

RE: Shecky have you been to minor league camp at all?  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2018 10:48 am : link
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
12h12 hours ago

Unsurprisingly, one of the Mets players in minor league camp that the coaches are raving about is 18-year-old Mark Vientos. He was the Mets second round pick last year.




Any chance Vientos opens in St Lucie? Or will the Mets be patient with him and have him in Columbia?


Close to 0% chance. 46 k's over 191 ab's in GCL/Kingsport doesn't = essentially skipping 3 levels. Rosario was 19 in St. Lucie. He and Wilmer are the only teens to play in St. Lucie over the past 7 seasons and Vientos just turned 18 in December.
RE: RE: Shecky have you been to minor league camp at all?  
pjcas18 : 3/12/2018 10:59 am : link
In comment 13859679 DanMetroMan said:
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Michael Mayer
‏ @mikemayerMMO
12h12 hours ago

Unsurprisingly, one of the Mets players in minor league camp that the coaches are raving about is 18-year-old Mark Vientos. He was the Mets second round pick last year.




Any chance Vientos opens in St Lucie? Or will the Mets be patient with him and have him in Columbia?




Close to 0% chance. 46 k's over 191 ab's in GCL/Kingsport doesn't = essentially skipping 3 levels. Rosario was 19 in St. Lucie. He and Wilmer are the only teens to play in St. Lucie over the past 7 seasons and Vientos just turned 18 in December.


So is Columbia even realistic then?
Really  
DanMetroMan : 3/12/2018 11:02 am : link
depends on full-season vs. short-season and if they think he can handle Brooklyn and what comes with that. Better chance they are conservative and send him to Kingsport than St. Lucie. St. Lucie would be really stunning.
No clue where they plan on sending anyone  
Shecky : 3/12/2018 11:21 am : link
But I agree with Dans thought process.
FYI for anyone that does make it to Spring Training, minor league spring is really cool for a baseball junky theyll practice after the big boys on the backfields. Clubhouse is opposite end of stadium. For a junky, early spring is the closest youll get to the real players. Starting around now though, minors are completely overlooked and an amazing experience.

Cuts were supposed to be today, but I assume they wait till after tomorrows split squad.
NeilWalker signs for  
spike : 3/12/2018 12:33 pm : link
1year 5 mil as a Yankee
RE: NeilWalker signs for  
speedywheels : 3/12/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13859839 spike said:
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1year 5 mil as a Yankee


Watch him play (or at least be healthy for) 150+ games and hit 25-30 HR, haha
HE will definitely  
spike : 3/12/2018 12:49 pm : link
Outplay Cabrera
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