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superspynyg : 3/2/2018 8:19 am
Big day for Giants fans
Barkley, Guice, Jones, Freeman, Chubb, Michel just to name some rbs
and
Nelson, McGlinchy, Williams, Wynn, Hernandez, Smith, Brown, Miller, Oniell, and dark horse Cappa.

I got it on record. should be a good day.
What time do RB's  
Andy in Boston : 3/2/2018 8:30 am : link
Run the 40? Thanks
Orlando Brown -  
Diver_Down : 3/2/2018 9:20 am : link
Despite his pedigree and I'm sympathetic to him coping with his dad's passing, he looks a mess. Just ran his 40 at 5.86 which is a historically bad time. He has shed weight down to 345 from a high of 380. Hopefully, his dad's health issues were a motivation. But he looks awful with his sugar-tits swaying around.
Orlando Brown  
jvm52106 : 3/2/2018 9:22 am : link
is AAron Gibson part 2. He will be too heavy and too out of shape most of his career to be anything more than a backup or occasional starter. He will not last more than 5 years in the league if he doesn't change his habits.
Hernandez  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 9:25 am : link
5.14
Crosby  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 9:25 am : link
5.24
He is hurting himself with a poor start  
ZogZerg : 3/2/2018 9:26 am : link
Awful Bench press and 40 time.
RE: Hernandez  
Diver_Down : 3/2/2018 9:27 am : link
In comment 13847455 jeff57 said:
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5.14


I have a man-crush on Will. The guy is built like a brick shit house. I'm hoping he is given consideration with pick 34. Providing a clean pocket for whomever is under center is imperative to the team's success.
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 9:29 am : link
James Daniels not running due to a strained hamstring
Key  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 9:30 am : link
Arden Key: 6047, 238 pounds, 33 1/2" arm
Watching Hernandez  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 9:54 am : link
do the agility drills..he looks really light on his feet
A lot of Eagles talk  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/2/2018 9:56 am : link
guess we have to get used to this until the Fall...ugh.
Yep,  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 10:01 am : link
Hernandez has been the most impressive OL so far.
Nelson is the next OL group  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 10:03 am : link
Coming up
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:09 am : link
DE/LB Dorance Armstrong

Height: 6-3 5/8
Weight: 257
Hand: 10👀
Arm: 34 6/8👀
Wingspan: 83👀
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:11 am : link

DE/LB Harold Landry

Height: 6-2 3/8
Weight: 252
Hand: 9 3/8
Arm: 32 7/8
Wingspan: 78 7/8
RE: Yep,  
AcesUp : 3/2/2018 10:15 am : link
In comment 13847533 Koffman said:
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Hernandez has been the most impressive OL so far.


Agreed. Austin Corbett as well.
Daniels  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 10:21 am : link
looks very athletic as well
RE: Daniels  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 10:23 am : link
In comment 13847574 ryanmkeane said:
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looks very athletic as well



Great feet and technique
Brown  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:24 am : link
Orlando Brown combine update:

*14 bench reps
*official 5.85 40 yard dash
*yelled at by coaches during drills for loafing
Just get me Hernandez in Round 2  
TheMick7 : 3/2/2018 10:27 am : link
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Daniels or Hernandez would be great picks at 34  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:29 am : link
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It's a shame and you can maybe understand his situation...  
Torrag : 3/2/2018 10:31 am : link
...but Orlando Brown is potentially costing himself literally millions of dollars.
Sam Jones looks like  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 10:33 am : link
Jason Mamoa (Aquaman), LOL.
RE: Brown  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 10:34 am : link
In comment 13847584 jeff57 said:
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Orlando Brown combine update:

*14 bench reps
*official 5.85 40 yard dash
*yelled at by coaches during drills for loafing


It was just shown that he ran one of the five slowest 40 times in Combine history, the other four guys werent drafted.
RE: Just get me Hernandez in Round 2  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 10:36 am : link
In comment 13847588 TheMick7 said:
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Agreed. Never want to overreact to the combine but he looks great out there and is hustling like crazy.
Herrandez really does  
Stufftherun : 3/2/2018 10:38 am : link
move athletically and on the other side of the coin Orlando Brown is Baby Huey.
RE: Orlando Brown -  
Biteymax22 : 3/2/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13847443 Diver_Down said:
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Despite his pedigree and I'm sympathetic to him coping with his dad's passing, he looks a mess. Just ran his 40 at 5.86 which is a historically bad time. He has shed weight down to 345 from a high of 380. Hopefully, his dad's health issues were a motivation. But he looks awful with his sugar-tits swaying around.


I've learned take the combine with a grain of salt and use it only to see if any red flags pop up.

His workouts have been a red flag, he'll drop.
RE: Watching Hernandez  
Biteymax22 : 3/2/2018 10:49 am : link
In comment 13847514 ryanmkeane said:
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do the agility drills..he looks really light on his feet


He'd be a great pick at the top of the second. Plug him in, he starts for years.
RE: Just get me Hernandez in Round 2  
Biteymax22 : 3/2/2018 10:51 am : link
In comment 13847588 TheMick7 said:
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Think of Barkley at 2, with Norwell signed and Hernandez drafted in the 2nd.

Suddenly we have a top 10 running game.
Kolton Miller  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 10:56 am : link
just broke the broad jump record for OL
. . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:56 am : link
LB Leighton Vander Esch

Height: 6-4 2/8
Weight: 256
Hand: 9 6/8
Arm: 33 7/8
Wingspan: 81 1/8
With Brown  
XBRONX : 3/2/2018 10:57 am : link
looking so bad how was he an Outland finalist? I saw a stat from 2016 that he played 659 snaps and gave up one sack.
,...  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:58 am : link
LB Tremaine Edmunds

Height: 6-4 4/8
Weight: 253
Hand: 9 3/8
Arm: 34 4/8
Wingspan: 83
. . . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 10:58 am : link

LB Roquan Smith

Height: 6-0 7/8
Weight: 236
Hand: 10
Arm: 32
Wingspan: 77
RE: With Brown  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 11:00 am : link
In comment 13847651 XBRONX said:
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looking so bad how was he an Outland finalist? I saw a stat from 2016 that he played 659 snaps and gave up one sack.


Plays well I guess. Just doesn't have good measurable.
they just showed Quenton Nelson's Bio at the combine  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 11:05 am : link
Favorite TV Show - Game of Thrones
Die Hard New York Giants Fan

 
okayrene : 3/2/2018 11:15 am : link
As much as I like Nelson  
Mike in NY : 3/2/2018 11:17 am : link
With all of the OG impressing, I wonder if it wouldnt be better to just wait at that position
Your college career  
old man : 3/2/2018 11:23 am : link
Is your resume.
The Combine is your second interview.
I'm sympathetic to his loss,but performance so far seems more a meh attitude towards football or fighting thru adversity, or both. Color that flag very red.
Maybe technique drills help him recover some, or, maybe get a second look on a Pro Day.
But at the moment he's fallen off the map. Unless he's #tankin'forNewEngland, or some place.
Which tandem would you prefer if we go  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/2/2018 11:24 am : link
OL and RB at 1-2 in the draft.

Quentin Nelson/Derrius Guice

Shaquan Barkley/Wil Hernandez

Nelson not running the 40 now  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/2/2018 11:26 am : link
apparently tweaked something and will do all other drills but the 40.
Nelson chosing not to run the 40  
18E : 3/2/2018 11:26 am : link
Calling it a medical exclusion
RE: What time do RB's  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/2/2018 11:27 am : link
Andy in Boston said:
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Run the 40? Thanks
Usually around 4.5-4.6.

Ba-dum-bum. I'm here all week, folks.
RE: Which tandem would you prefer if we go  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 11:27 am : link
In comment 13847676 nyjuggernaut2 said:
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OL and RB at 1-2 in the draft.

Quentin Nelson/Derrius Guice

Shaquan Barkley/Wil Hernandez


Tough choice, but probably the second one
Is Orlando Brown  
Breeze_94 : 3/2/2018 11:30 am : link
a day 3 guy?

14 bench reps at 345 lbs, one of the worst 40 yard dashes and 10 yard splits of all time. Then, he gets yelled at for loafing in a drill.

He should've stayed home
. . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 11:33 am : link
Matt Miller‏Verified account @nfldraftscout

4.80 unofficial for Brian O'Neill. Tape shows a guy who will be ideal in a zone scheme.

I'd stay as far away from Orlando Brown as possible  
jlukes : 3/2/2018 11:39 am : link
Hernandez and Daniels were my favorites from group 1
RE: Orlando Brown  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 11:39 am : link
In comment 13847447 jvm52106 said:
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is AAron Gibson part 2. He will be too heavy and too out of shape most of his career to be anything more than a backup or occasional starter. He will not last more than 5 years in the league if he doesn't change his habits.


Agreed.
I  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 11:41 am : link
wouldn't assume that Hernandez or Smith will be available at #34. Everybody needs OL help. Those two could easily vault into the first round.
RE: Orlando Brown -  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 11:44 am : link
In comment 13847443 Diver_Down said:
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Despite his pedigree and I'm sympathetic to him coping with his dad's passing, he looks a mess. Just ran his 40 at 5.86 which is a historically bad time.


5.86? Based on how slow he looked in pass protection against Georgia, I would have thought he'd run a 15.86.
RE: . . .  
Jay on the Island : 3/2/2018 11:44 am : link
In comment 13847698 jeff57 said:
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Matt Miller‏Verified account @nfldraftscout

4.80 unofficial for Brian O'Neill. Tape shows a guy who will be ideal in a zone scheme.

He could be a round 3 target for the Giants. He is athletic but he needs to get stronger and work on his technique.
I think Desmond Harrison is going to be good  
est1986 : 3/2/2018 11:46 am : link
And I think he can be had in the mid to late rounds. I wish Sy'56 would weigh in on him, Elite mover at tackle and I see some serious nastiness in his tape too, relentless finisher, leaves guys on theirs back, my biggest concern with him is his anchor strength and his off field issues.
Lots of good OL at top of round 2  
Reale01 : 3/2/2018 11:51 am : link
Trade back a bit.
I've been thinking OT at 34  
Breeze_94 : 3/2/2018 11:53 am : link
but I think McGlinchey/Williams have secured their 1st round status today. Brown literally tested himself out of the first 2 rounds today.

Kolton Miller looks like he could go round 1 and he won't be there at 34. Making a late round push and he compares very favorably to Nate Solder.

Is 34 too high for Brian O'Neill?
Seems odd that Pitt used O'Neill at RT and Bisnowaty at LT...  
Big Blue Blogger : 3/2/2018 11:58 am : link
...when both were there. I guess O'Neill had a long way to go technique-wise, as a converted TE. Plus, Bisnowaty had seniority.

It worked pretty well. Pitt averaged 41 PPG in 2016. Most of the problems were on defense.
RE: I think Desmond Harrison is going to be good  
Jay on the Island : 3/2/2018 12:08 pm : link
In comment 13847732 est1986 said:
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And I think he can be had in the mid to late rounds. I wish Sy'56 would weigh in on him, Elite mover at tackle and I see some serious nastiness in his tape too, relentless finisher, leaves guys on theirs back, my biggest concern with him is his anchor strength and his off field issues.

I like Harrison also. If he checks out off the field he would be among my favorites for the Giants 3rd round picks. He could compete right away for one of the OT jobs. Norwell, Hernandez, and Harrison would be a great start to rebuilding the line.
RE: Seems odd that Pitt used O'Neill at RT and Bisnowaty at LT...  
Jay on the Island : 3/2/2018 12:09 pm : link
In comment 13847752 Big Blue Blogger said:
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...when both were there. I guess O'Neill had a long way to go technique-wise, as a converted TE. Plus, Bisnowaty had seniority.

It worked pretty well. Pitt averaged 41 PPG in 2016. Most of the problems were on defense.

Going into that season Bisnowaty was considered a potential 1st round pick.
........  
CoughlinHandsonHips : 3/2/2018 12:09 pm : link
A solid combine indicates a strong work ethic. The different tests and drills are no secret. Training and being well trained for them is a good indication that they take preparation seriously
RE: I've been thinking OT at 34  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 12:13 pm : link
In comment 13847745 Breeze_94 said:
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but I think McGlinchey/Williams have secured their 1st round status today. Brown literally tested himself out of the first 2 rounds today.

Kolton Miller looks like he could go round 1 and he won't be there at 34. Making a late round push and he compares very favorably to Nate Solder.

Is 34 too high for Brian O'Neill?


Yes.
Gettleman  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 12:17 pm : link
won't be taking a project lineman at 34. I think O'Neill is needs a few years.
41 inch vertical for Barkley  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/2/2018 12:25 pm : link
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RE: 41 inch vertical for Barkley  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/2/2018 12:27 pm : link
In comment 13847808 gidiefor said:
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at 233 lbs
holy shit  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 12:33 pm : link
haha
Niners win coin toss  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 12:35 pm : link
Will pick ninth
Nick Chubb vert  
battttles : 3/2/2018 12:36 pm : link
38.5 woah momma
RE: 41 inch vertical for Barkley  
Brown Recluse : 3/2/2018 12:40 pm : link
In comment 13847808 gidiefor said:
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What a beast.
Joe Noteboom having a great combine  
Milton : 3/2/2018 12:42 pm : link
6-5
309 lbs
34 3/8 arms
27 bench reps
4.96 40
1.72 10-yard split
RE: 41 inch vertical for Barkley  
old man : 3/2/2018 12:44 pm : link
In comment 13847808 gidiefor said:
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Not sure if it was his HS or college HC8 leaning the later) that said something like Not even Saquon has an idea on how really good he could be.
A good OL, a decent arm QB, and this guy,and you get TDs.
Personally I think Notebloom, Nelson, Willians, and O'Neill  
PatersonPlank : 3/2/2018 12:53 pm : link
Look like good picks. This is only based on watching the drills of course, but they seem like they are doing the best.
Noteboom, O'Neill, and Kolton Miller  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 12:56 pm : link
did really well in the mirroring drill.

Chukwuma Okorafor didn't look very agile on his feet.
RE: Noteboom, O'Neill, and Kolton Miller  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/2/2018 12:58 pm : link
In comment 13847864 allstarjim said:
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did really well in the mirroring drill.

Chukwuma Okorafor didn't look very agile on his feet.


Brandon Smith looked really good -- good balance -- really instinctive - fluid movements --- and he's a biiiig dude
RE: RE: Noteboom, O'Neill, and Kolton Miller  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 1:00 pm : link
In comment 13847870 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13847864 allstarjim said:


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did really well in the mirroring drill.

Chukwuma Okorafor didn't look very agile on his feet.



Brandon Smith looked really good -- good balance -- really instinctive - fluid movements --- and he's a biiiig dude


I like him.
Noteboom  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 1:02 pm : link
is a guy that I saw a lot of prognosticators pegging him in the 5th round or later of the draft. I think that's impossible at this point. I think he doesn't get out of the third, and potentially goes in the 2nd round. Everyone needs OL.
I think  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:07 pm : link
Hernandez was the most impressive of all the OL today and that includes Nelson
Kolton Miller is killing it  
gidiefor : Mod : 3/2/2018 1:11 pm : link
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RE: RE: 41 inch vertical for Barkley  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 1:16 pm : link
In comment 13847810 gidiefor said:
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In comment 13847808 gidiefor said:


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at 233 lbs


Wow.
interested to see  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:23 pm : link
what Ronald Jones runs...there are some that think he will go sub 4.3
Haha, Gettleman and Shurmur moving close to the field  
PatersonPlank : 3/2/2018 1:28 pm : link
For Barkleys 40
Barkley  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
runs a 4.41.
Barkley, a 4.41  
PatersonPlank : 3/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
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Barkley......  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 1:30 pm : link
Holds the Penn State Record for the Power Lift @425lbs
Jumped 41 inches for his vertical
Benched 225lbs 29 times
According to all reports has excellent character & work ethict
In three seasons, at PSU rushed for 3,843 yards with 43 rushing touchdowns, while garnering 1,195 receiving yards with 8 touchdown receptions. He totaled 5,557 all-purpose yards in his three year collegiate career.

and just ran a 4.41
.  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 1:31 pm : link
4.41 for a guy Barkley's size is really, really good.
wow...  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:31 pm : link
lets see if he can break 4.4 with his second
Fantastic  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 1:31 pm : link
time for Barkley.
Chubb 4.53  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:32 pm : link
.
RE: .  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 1:33 pm : link
In comment 13847924 arcarsenal said:
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4.41 for a guy Barkley's size is really, really good.


its amazing....and a 41 vert with all that muscle mass...guy is physically gifted.
hope he is our guy at 2
to compare  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:34 pm : link
Elliott was 8 pounds lighter and ran a 4.47
.  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 1:34 pm : link
I'm starting to want to draft Barkley more and more by the day.

I really do not envy Gettleman and Shurmur - this is going to be a hard decision to make. Really hard.
RE: .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:35 pm : link
In comment 13847931 arcarsenal said:
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I'm starting to want to draft Barkley more and more by the day.

I really do not envy Gettleman and Shurmur - this is going to be a hard decision to make. Really hard.


Maybe the Browns will take him at 1 and then they'll only have to decide which QB to take.
If Cleveland goes QB  
Chip : 3/2/2018 1:37 pm : link
Take Barkley please. No longer in the QB camp. We will more than likely have our choice of the QBs
Royce Freeman 4.59  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:38 pm : link
Big back. Not all that surprising.
Guice 4.49  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:39 pm : link
.
Hines  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
4.39. Makes Barkely's run look even more impressive given his size.
Only player last year with 25+ reps and a 40+ vertical  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
was Myles Garrett
Matt Miller  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
On and off the track, Saquon Barkley is winning the Combine so far. Excellent athlete and he's wowing teams in interviews.
Who's this Hines guy from NC State?  
PatersonPlank : 3/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
4.39
Barkey's leg power  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 1:40 pm : link
I have read that Barkley squatted 525lbs 5 times which is amazing. I heard that Earl Campbell with his tree trunks for legs only squatted 495.
Could or would Cleveland take Barkley  
Simms11 : 3/2/2018 1:41 pm : link
at #1? This guy is looking like a freak athlete. I dont think Barkley even gets to us at 2, but stranger things have happened.
RE: Matt Miller  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 1:41 pm : link
In comment 13847947 jeff57 said:
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On and off the track, Saquon Barkley is winning the Combine so far. Excellent athlete and he's wowing teams in interviews.


praying he is avail at 2...ive been wanting him and he is performing as expected.
Welp  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:42 pm : link
that might be the day for Ronald Jones..looks like he pulled up lame
Also watch John Kelly  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 1:42 pm : link
As a UT fan John Kelly was pretty good this year
Guice with a 4.49  
Simms11 : 3/2/2018 1:42 pm : link
Not bad
RE: Guice with a 4.49  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:43 pm : link
In comment 13847957 Simms11 said:
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Not bad

Very good
. . .  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:43 pm : link
Ronald Jones: 4.66 unofficial but he pulled up midway through the run
Still think  
tyrik13 : 3/2/2018 1:43 pm : link
Barkley won't go first overall??? Like I stated in my other thread, he's going no. 1.
He's more likely to go 1  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:44 pm : link
Because Browns have the pick at 4.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 1:44 pm : link
In comment 13847933 jeff57 said:
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In comment 13847931 arcarsenal said:


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I'm starting to want to draft Barkley more and more by the day.

I really do not envy Gettleman and Shurmur - this is going to be a hard decision to make. Really hard.



Maybe the Browns will take him at 1 and then they'll only have to decide which QB to take.


It's possible - even still I'm not sure QB is a must. They could really love a guy like Nelson or Fitzpatrick - they could trade down a few spots.

If NYG are really, truly sold on one of these QB's - go on ahead and take him.

I just don't want us taking a QB because we feel like the timing and circumstances are right - that's not enough reason to pull the trigger. You have to have serious conviction about one of these guys.
Sony Michel  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 1:46 pm : link
4.58
RE: Barkley......  
Anando : 3/2/2018 1:46 pm : link
In comment 13847922 Koffman said:
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Holds the Penn State Record for the Power Lift @425lbs
Jumped 41 inches for his vertical
Benched 225lbs 29 times
According to all reports has excellent character & work ethict
In three seasons, at PSU rushed for 3,843 yards with 43 rushing touchdowns, while garnering 1,195 receiving yards with 8 touchdown receptions. He totaled 5,557 all-purpose yards in his three year collegiate career.

and just ran a 4.41


sign me up
RE: Still think  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/2/2018 1:47 pm : link
In comment 13847960 tyrik13 said:
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Barkley won't go first overall??? Like I stated in my other thread, he's going no. 1.


No, I don't. Still think it will be a QB even if it's not the Browns taking one.
RE: RE: Still think  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 1:49 pm : link
In comment 13847967 BigBlue4You09 said:
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In comment 13847960 tyrik13 said:


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Barkley won't go first overall??? Like I stated in my other thread, he's going no. 1.



No, I don't. Still think it will be a QB even if it's not the Browns taking one.


hope youre right. Barkley is a STUD. would love him at 2.
Barkley's second 40 run time  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 1:53 pm : link
4.42
RE: Still think  
shyster : 3/2/2018 1:55 pm : link
In comment 13847960 tyrik13 said:
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Barkley won't go first overall??? Like I stated in my other thread, he's going no. 1.


Browns will go QB at 1.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/02/hue_jackson_sounds_like_its_qb.html
Hue J - ( New Window )
RE: Barkley's second 40 run time  
superspynyg : 3/2/2018 1:56 pm : link
In comment 13847982 Koffman said:
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4.42


Nice!!!!
RE: RE: Still think  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 1:57 pm : link
In comment 13847988 shyster said:
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In comment 13847960 tyrik13 said:


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Barkley won't go first overall??? Like I stated in my other thread, he's going no. 1.



Browns will go QB at 1.

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2018/02/hue_jackson_sounds_like_its_qb.html Hue J - ( New Window )


hope so because im ordering my barkley jersey lmao
RE: Barkley's second 40 run time  
Breeze_94 : 3/2/2018 1:58 pm : link
In comment 13847982 Koffman said:
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4.42


And he had a stumble in the first 5 yards. Could've been a 4.3
So basically  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 1:58 pm : link
Barkley ran the same time as Beckham..
So far, great performances  
Emil : 3/2/2018 1:58 pm : link
for Barkley and Guice. Generally thought of as the top 2 RBs in the draft class.

Sony Michels' time is a little disappointing, as he has a reputation as a game breaker. 4.58 is plenty fast, but you thought he'd be faster.

Chubb is turning in a solid performance as well. If it wasn't for the injury history, he'd probably be an early second rounder.

If Barkley is sitting their at #2, I'm ok with it. Sure you are passing on a QB, and maybe running back isn't the right pick that high, but man, what a stud.
RE: So basically  
Emil : 3/2/2018 1:59 pm : link
In comment 13847997 ryanmkeane said:
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Barkley ran the same time as Beckham..


And weight like 30lbs more than OBJ.
.  
Danny Kanell : 3/2/2018 1:59 pm : link
Gun to my head, the Giants are taking Darnold or Saquon at 2, whoever is there. If both are there, I think theyd go Darnold unless Gettleman somehow was able to nearly fully rebuild the OL in free agency and wants to go all in on trying to win one more with Eli.
RE: Barkey's leg power  
Keith : 3/2/2018 2:00 pm : link
In comment 13847950 Koffman said:
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I have read that Barkley squatted 525lbs 5 times which is amazing. I heard that Earl Campbell with his tree trunks for legs only squatted 495.


Now this is something that actually matters for a RB. I can't understand why bench press matters and I've yet to hear anyone explain it. Why doesn't the NFL have these guys do squats instead?
They said Charlie Casserly Clocked him  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 2:00 pm : link
with a hand watch during his first run @ 4.28
RE: .  
Eric on Li : 3/2/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13847931 arcarsenal said:
Quote:
I'm starting to want to draft Barkley more and more by the day.

I really do not envy Gettleman and Shurmur - this is going to be a hard decision to make. Really hard.


Same. He's just a showing he's a complete freak and seems like a hard worker and team guy on top of that. As similarly freakish and awesome as Nelson seems, I think you have to go with the RB who will touch the ball 20 times per game.

Add 1 starting OL in FA, target a likely starter at #34 or via slight trade up, and team up Barkley/Engram/Beckham for the next 5-10 years.

And keep ears open if someone is willing to pay a king's ransom to move up 2-3 spots.
RE: They said Charlie Casserly Clocked him  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 2:01 pm : link
In comment 13848004 Koffman said:
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with a hand watch during his first run @ 4.28


shhhh the browns are listeing lol.

somebody tell them barkley loves coke and hookers
RE: . . .  
Emil : 3/2/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13847959 jeff57 said:
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Ronald Jones: 4.66 unofficial but he pulled up midway through the run


I know Jones gets a lot of buzz, and has been talked about as an early 2nd rounder, but I just don't see it so far.
RE: They said Charlie Casserly Clocked him  
Emil : 3/2/2018 2:02 pm : link
In comment 13848004 Koffman said:
Quote:
with a hand watch during his first run @ 4.28


Never trust hand time.
Penny just earned himself some  
SHO'NUFF : 3/2/2018 2:05 pm : link
$$$. If we don't get Barkley, we get Penny.
Ok, who was I arguing with that said Barkley  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 2:05 pm : link
was going to run in the 4.5's?
RE: Penny just earned himself some  
SHO'NUFF : 3/2/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13848020 SHO'NUFF said:
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$$$. If we don't get Barkley, we get Penny.


4.47
RE: So basically  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 2:06 pm : link
In comment 13847997 ryanmkeane said:
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Barkley ran the same time as Beckham..


Nuts, right? He is defying the imagination with this combine.
RE: Matt Miller  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 2:07 pm : link
In comment 13847947 jeff57 said:
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On and off the track, Saquon Barkley is winning the Combine so far. Excellent athlete and he's wowing teams in interviews.


And likely, to the surprise of no one.

He seems like such a known commodity, and I have a tough time imagining that Cleveland will pass on him now.
RE: RE: Matt Miller  
Emil : 3/2/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13848031 santacruzom said:
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In comment 13847947 jeff57 said:


Quote:


On and off the track, Saquon Barkley is winning the Combine so far. Excellent athlete and he's wowing teams in interviews.



And likely, to the surprise of no one.

He seems like such a known commodity, and I have a tough time imagining that Cleveland will pass on him now.


Franchise altering player...

He is a three down RB, and can return punts and kicks. I can live with him being the pick :)
RE: RE: They said Charlie Casserly Clocked him  
BigBlue4You09 : 3/2/2018 2:10 pm : link
In comment 13848009 BleedBlue said:
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In comment 13848004 Koffman said:


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with a hand watch during his first run @ 4.28



shhhh the browns are listeing lol.

somebody tell them barkley loves coke and hookers


Don't think that would even stop them, it is the Browns after all!
Barkley making it incredibly difficult to pass  
AcesUp : 3/2/2018 2:10 pm : link
I think a lot of the anti-QB talk on this board is driven by impatience and a non-objective sentimental attachment to Eli. The gymnastics some take to either downplay the need or knock the QB talent at the top is frustrating.

However...Barkley is making it almost impossible to pass on him. Somewhat expected but still a super impressive showing so far. Giants are in a great but difficult spot.
RE: RE: They said Charlie Casserly Clocked him  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 2:11 pm : link
In comment 13848009 BleedBlue said:
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somebody tell them barkley loves coke and hookers


As if that would remove him from the Browns' draft board!
RE: Barkley making it incredibly difficult to pass  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 2:13 pm : link
In comment 13848035 AcesUp said:
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Giants are in a great but difficult spot.


Not anymore than the Browns are. He has to make it past them to make the Giants' decision a truly difficult one.

Has he even done the 3 cone or shuttle drills yet? And then, wait until his Pro Day.

Sheesh.
...  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 2:17 pm : link
IF the browns do something crazy and take Allen at 1...

HOLY SHIT the phones will be BLOWING up for the giants...

teams will want darnold or barkley BADLY.
they literally could rob someone without a gun.

in that scenario im taking barkley...kid is gonna be a top back in the game right away...we havent had a RB be a threat since tiki. bradshaw to some extent but still not barkley....fix OL in FA and add barkley, if we still cant move the ball we know its eli, bring in webb hahaha
So does anyone still want  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 2:17 pm : link
Michel in the 2nd instead of Barkley in the 1st?
RE: Ok, who was I arguing with that said Barkley  
NYG27 : 3/2/2018 2:17 pm : link
In comment 13848024 allstarjim said:
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was going to run in the 4.5's?


You thought Barkley was running in the 4.5's??? He was always running 4.4's with a possibility of breaking 4.3's.
To compare...  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 2:23 pm : link
Tomlinson's combine was: 5'10 225, ran a 4.46 and 40.5 vert.
Santa  
AcesUp : 3/2/2018 2:26 pm : link
That is true. If I'm the Browns, I'm taking my surplus of picks and contacting the Giants about moving up from 4 to 2 to make that choice easy.
They have shown past 40 runs  
Koffman : 3/2/2018 2:28 pm : link
with Ezekiel Elliot, Leonard Fournettee, Todd Gurley, Antonio Brown, and Odell.

Barkley out ran them all.
RE: RE: Ok, who was I arguing with that said Barkley  
allstarjim : 3/2/2018 2:31 pm : link
In comment 13848047 NYG27 said:
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In comment 13848024 allstarjim said:


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was going to run in the 4.5's?



You thought Barkley was running in the 4.5's??? He was always running 4.4's with a possibility of breaking 4.3's.


Look at my post again. Someone else was saying it, I was saying that was nonsense. I said I would be shocked if he ran slower than a 4.43. I'll see if I can find it.
RE: They have shown past 40 runs  
BleedBlue : 3/2/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13848064 Koffman said:
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with Ezekiel Elliot, Leonard Fournettee, Todd Gurley, Antonio Brown, and Odell.

Barkley out ran them all.


insane!!!!

RE: They have shown past 40 runs  
SHO'NUFF : 3/2/2018 2:33 pm : link
In comment 13848064 Koffman said:
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with Ezekiel Elliot, Leonard Fournettee, Todd Gurley, Antonio Brown, and Odell.

Barkley out ran them all.


Don't forget Julio Jones, too.
Eisen lobbying for Barkley to Giants  
SHO'NUFF : 3/2/2018 2:34 pm : link
pretty much begging.
RE: Eisen lobbying for Barkley to Giants  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 2:35 pm : link
In comment 13848077 SHO'NUFF said:
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pretty much begging.

I've been hearing that too. Probably because Barkley embarrassed Michigan this year.
Barkley outruns OBJ, Julio Jones, and Antonio Brown....  
Britt in VA : 3/2/2018 2:48 pm : link
in the NFL Network Simulcam:

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Wow penny exceeded my expectations with that time  
Mark from Jersey : 3/2/2018 2:49 pm : link
.
With a torn pec  
BobR in Durham : 3/2/2018 2:51 pm : link
does Billy Price drop to 2nd or 3rd round in the draft?
Barkley  
GiantJake : 3/2/2018 2:54 pm : link
Running that fast at 230 lbs. is impressive. They also pointed out that he is a very good at protecting the QB and picking up the blitz.
barkley official  
tyrik13 : 3/2/2018 2:56 pm : link
is a 4.40.
RE: barkley official  
AcidTest : 3/2/2018 3:02 pm : link
In comment 13848107 tyrik13 said:
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is a 4.40.


Ridiculous.
Give me Barkley  
bigbb : 3/2/2018 3:02 pm : link
Or give me death




Not really but you get the point
RE: With a torn pec  
AcesUp : 3/2/2018 3:07 pm : link
In comment 13848098 BobR in Durham said:
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does Billy Price drop to 2nd or 3rd round in the draft?


I think it's only partially torn. If that's the case, he won't miss any time. What sucks for him as that there is a lot of talent on the interior line in the late 1 to 2nd round range. Probably takes a minor hit but won't plummet.
Barkley's performance here  
TMS : 3/2/2018 3:08 pm : link
probably means Cleveland takes him with the first pick. We should be thinking about trade scenarios for a team who wants our #2 pick if we do not go QB. We are in great shape either way. We get our pick of the QBs or extra high picks if we trade out. Maybe a 1 and 2 next year if we have to go QB then.
RE: It's a shame and you can maybe understand his situation...  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/2/2018 3:08 pm : link
In comment 13847603 Torrag said:
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...but Orlando Brown is potentially costing himself literally millions of dollars.

I know how hard it can be to lose a parent, so I don't want to be insensitive, but his dad passed away seven years ago.

Or is there another situation that you're referencing?
RE: Penny just earned himself some  
Gatorade Dunk : 3/2/2018 3:09 pm : link
In comment 13848020 SHO'NUFF said:
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$$$. If we don't get Barkley, we get Penny.

I'm pretty sure Shurmur prefers RBs who can catch and block.
RE: Barkley's performance here  
tyrik13 : 3/2/2018 3:10 pm : link
In comment 13848123 TMS said:
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probably means Cleveland takes him with the first pick. We should be thinking about trade scenarios for a team who wants our #2 pick if we do not go QB. We are in great shape either way. We get our pick of the QBs or extra high picks if we trade out. Maybe a 1 and 2 next year if we have to go QB then.


ive been saying this for a few days now, hes going no. 1
do you offer Eli Apple and the 2nd pick  
Chip : 3/2/2018 3:18 pm : link
to move up one spot?
RE: Barkley's performance here  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 3:20 pm : link
In comment 13848123 TMS said:
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probably means Cleveland takes him with the first pick. We should be thinking about trade scenarios for a team who wants our #2 pick if we do not go QB. We are in great shape either way. We get our pick of the QBs or extra high picks if we trade out. Maybe a 1 and 2 next year if we have to go QB then.


Yeah, that's how I see it. Any disappointment over Cleveland taking Barkley and removing him from our consideration will likely be quickly dispelled by the pick we wind up making.

I mean, we can lose, but I feel like we can't.
anyone see the giants scout  
mphbullet36 : 3/2/2018 3:26 pm : link
talking to barkley after he finished his workout...
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- Stronger than Joe Thomas
- Quicker than DeSean Jackson
- Faster than Devin Hester
- Jumps higher than Julio Jones
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Penn State RB Saquon Barkley at 2018 Combine:

- Stronger than Joe Thomas
- Quicker than DeSean Jackson
- Faster than Devin Hester
- Jumps higher than Julio Jones



I thought he'd blow the combine away, but he is having an all-time combine workout. Incredible.
RE: .  
Giants in 07 : 3/2/2018 3:34 pm : link
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Penn State RB Saquon Barkley at 2018 Combine:

- Stronger than Joe Thomas
- Quicker than DeSean Jackson
- Faster than Devin Hester
- Jumps higher than Julio Jones



That is absolutely insane
When Baker Mayfield...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/2/2018 3:34 pm : link
was specifically asked how he'd handle being a backup QB (to Eli in the question), he responded that being a backup isn't going to cut it for him.

I know some teams will like his fire, but he doesn't appear to have softened his attitude at all.
RE: So basically  
Boy Cord : 3/2/2018 3:34 pm : link
In comment 13847997 ryanmkeane said:
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Barkley ran the same time as Beckham..


And Engram. Three-headed monster.
RE: When Baker Mayfield...  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 3:39 pm : link
In comment 13848159 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was specifically asked how he'd handle being a backup QB (to Eli in the question), he responded that being a backup isn't going to cut it for him.

I know some teams will like his fire, but he doesn't appear to have softened his attitude at all.


If people think Beckham is a headache, Mayfield will make their head explode.
Not surprised by Barkely's results at combine  
RobCarpenter : 3/2/2018 3:41 pm : link
but it's his agility/balance that I find most impressive:

.  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 3:42 pm : link
It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?
Bo Scarbrough, RB Alabama: 40 inch vertical  
shyster : 3/2/2018 3:43 pm : link
and 4.52 at 232 pounds.

He was also impressive in drills at the "State Farm Football Challenge" that aired Super Bowl weekend.

Barkley about to be interviewed on NFLN now  
nyjuggernaut2 : 3/2/2018 3:46 pm : link
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RE: Bo Scarbrough, RB Alabama: 40 inch vertical  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 3:48 pm : link
In comment 13848173 shyster said:
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and 4.52 at 232 pounds.

He was also impressive in drills at the "State Farm Football Challenge" that aired Super Bowl weekend.


Big Bo!

Will be a great pick in the 3rd/4th for whoever takes him.

He's like a slightly smaller Jacobs.
arc...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/2/2018 3:48 pm : link
Exactly. It isn't even that Mayfield gave the answer he did - it is that he's too arrogant to realize what the best way to answer the question is.

To me, if you haven't prepared to answer questions you know you're going to get asked, it is a red flag on its own.

Barkley is on right now talking about how he didn't have any baggage coming out of college and thanks his teammates and coaches for helping him out.
RE: Not surprised by Barkely's results at combine  
Jon in NYC : 3/2/2018 3:50 pm : link
In comment 13848170 RobCarpenter said:
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but it's his agility/balance that I find most impressive:



This right here is the argument of taking him at no 2. Same reason why Odell is so special. Because at any point in the game, if you slip, he's taking one to the house.
RE: .  
Keith : 3/2/2018 3:51 pm : link
In comment 13848172 arcarsenal said:
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It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?


Have you considered going into the draft?
Can Barkley  
XBRONX : 3/2/2018 3:52 pm : link
wear a letter instead of a number? "S" for Saquon. of course.
RE: RE: .  
arcarsenal : 3/2/2018 3:55 pm : link
In comment 13848189 Keith said:
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In comment 13848172 arcarsenal said:


Quote:


It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?



Have you considered going into the draft?


I don't think anyone would take me at age 33 - but I'd definitely handle the questions the right way!
RE: RE: Penny just earned himself some  
Mark from Jersey : 3/2/2018 4:11 pm : link
In comment 13848125 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 13848020 SHO'NUFF said:


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$$$. If we don't get Barkley, we get Penny.


I'm pretty sure Shurmur prefers RBs who can catch and block.
Well he can catch that is for sure. Sounds like you have done your homework on Penny though.
I can probably finish the 40 but a medic will need to be nearby.  
Jim in Hoboken : 3/2/2018 4:12 pm : link
My verical jump and 3-cone drill will look very impressive if they switch the numbers around. And how many 12-inch subs is 225lb again?

But how stupid or oblivious do you have to be to not ace these formulaic combine interviews?
Rosen has interview scheduled with the Giants  
jeff57 : 3/2/2018 4:18 pm : link
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Rjanyg : 3/2/2018 4:23 pm : link
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- Stronger than Joe Thomas
- Quicker than DeSean Jackson
- Faster than Devin Hester
- Jumps higher than Julio Jones





I thought he'd blow the combine away, but he is having an all-time combine workout. Incredible.


And he has kicked ass on the field. This guy is insane.
Don't think Cleveland  
Thegratefulhead : 3/2/2018 5:21 pm : link
Is NOT taking Barkley at 1. If the Colts trade 3, they could be drafting their 3rd favorite QB in the draft. Cleveland takes their guy at one and BPA at 4 is how I see it.
The Browns are in a really good position  
Rflairr : 3/2/2018 5:22 pm : link
They could take Barkley and still get one the top 2 QBs at 4. Because the Colts aren't going to take QB.
Did Barkley  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 5:29 pm : link
do the 3 cone?
Looks like  
ryanmkeane : 3/2/2018 5:30 pm : link
Barkley didn't do 3 cone or broad jump
Browns are going running back...  
M.S. : 3/2/2018 5:43 pm : link

...with the first pick.

That means we get to select the best QB from a very fine QB-rich draft!!!

RE: With a torn pec  
Diver_Down : 3/2/2018 6:12 pm : link
In comment 13848098 BobR in Durham said:
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does Billy Price drop to 2nd or 3rd round in the draft?


I hope he drops to the 3rd. If he is there in the 3rd, I would grab him and stash him on PUP. If he needs more time, then stick him on IR for the remainder of the season. In 2019, he can take over for Jones.
I know it's stupid  
TJ : 3/2/2018 6:27 pm : link
But I grind my teeth every time these guys call Tomlinson "LT"
RE: do you offer Eli Apple and the 2nd pick  
GFAN52 : 3/2/2018 6:31 pm : link
In comment 13848134 Chip said:
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to move up one spot?


No. Can't afford to give up that 2nd pick.
RE: .  
Ten Ton Hammer : 3/2/2018 6:39 pm : link
In comment 13848172 arcarsenal said:
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It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?


It's not a difficult thing, but as an aside, why do we want him to answer something a certain way? 32 QBs in this league have been mentally programmed that it's a mortal sin to say anything other than football cliches. I'm not sure what people's hang-ups are with honest answers to questions.
RE: RE: .  
giantsfaninphilly : 3/2/2018 7:02 pm : link
In comment 13848376 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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In comment 13848172 arcarsenal said:


Quote:


It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?



It's not a difficult thing, but as an aside, why do we want him to answer something a certain way? 32 QBs in this league have been mentally programmed that it's a mortal sin to say anything other than football cliches. I'm not sure what people's hang-ups are with honest answers to questions.


Because it's a 'me' vs 'Team' statement, at least as I see it.
I said Barkley before the season ended  
Bluesbreaker : 3/2/2018 7:35 pm : link
Not surprised by Barkely's results at combine
RobCarpenter : 3:41 pm : link : reply
but it's his agility/balance that I find most impressive:

That run sealed it !
by the way  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 7:44 pm : link
The Other Chubb had a pretty damn impressive Combine today.
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RE: .  
santacruzom : 3/2/2018 7:46 pm : link
In comment 13848172 arcarsenal said:
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It actually amazes me how poorly some of these guys handle questions like that.

If you're asked how you'd handle being a backup to Eli Manning, all you should say is...

Eli is a great player who has been around and has the hardware. He's earned his job. Obviously I want to play, I want to be the guy - but I know I'll have to earn that and I'm prepared to do that.

Is that so hard?


Well to be fair, what he said was only a slightly more arrogant version of that:

Quote:
First things first, whatever team I go to Im not going to settle for a backup job. Ive never been like that. I never will, Mayfield said. Im going to push that person in front of me. When it comes down to it, the best mans going to win and I know that. But everybody has a role on the team. If youre not improving and pushing the guys around you to get better then youre not doing it right. So yeah, Id be more than happy to be on the Giants. But same thing for any other team.
Giants coach working OL drills  
watertown : 3/2/2018 8:58 pm : link
Who is the Giants coach or staffer working the on field OL drills?
...  
Dodge : 3/2/2018 9:12 pm : link
For a guy like Fatman who trashes everyone on this board that says something stupid...

Nice mis characterization numbers. He answered the question pretty well in my opinion. For some one who runs their mouth constantly you seem to want all your young 20 something football players to be choir boys.

If you are going..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 3/2/2018 10:25 pm : link
to insult me at least use a fucking coherent sentence.
The best news is if we don't get Barkley it means we got...  
Torrag : 3/2/2018 10:55 pm : link
...our choice of QB and one of these other fine backs that are having very good days here at the Combine will be options in other rounds. I thought last years RB class had greatv depth of talent this group is at least as good and maybe better.
RE: I know it's stupid  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 3/2/2018 11:18 pm : link
In comment 13848363 TJ said:
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But I grind my teeth every time these guys call Tomlinson "LT"


Bothers me too.
LT (Our LT), supposedly gave LaDaniananananan permission to use  
Optimus-NY : 3/3/2018 12:07 am : link
the moniker of LT years ago. I don't know why, but that's how the story goes. Out of respect to LT, he should have been LdT. The original LT (only one really) called him Baby LT. I've always said this about Lawrence: I don't think he knows he truly revered he is in the history of football. He's not just some great player, he's quite probably THE greatest player who's ever lived. That's something heavy.
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