I think it’s absurd to even consider Tony Romo for the HOF. But before the writer of this article essentially agrees, he takes more than a few shots at Eli and concludes:
Eli Manning is clearly not of the same quality as the other players on this list. I have never seriously considered him a legitimate HOF candidate. He’ll probably elicit serious consideration simply because of two Super Bowl wins (and MVPs) and... well, New York. But by any objective measure he’s not the same caliber quarterback as the other names on this list, including Tony Romo. |
I know it’s a Cowpukes blog but how does anyone say they’re “okay” with Kurt Warner being in the HOF but Eli does not belong? And how does anyone consider Romo to have been a better QB than Eli? I hate to give this guy the clicks.
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And then I remember Eli throwing passes to lead the Giants to 2 wins in the 4QTR of two Super Bowls.
Romo led them on a VERY long drive at the end of the half leaving Eli with something like a minute to play. Eli answered in 45 seconds and walked into the locker room with the lead. That was a statement drive if there ever was one.
Let me repeat that "They can go fuck themselves"
And then I remember Eli throwing passes to lead the Giants to 2 wins in the 4QTR of two Super Bowls.
Is that the same play that made Bill Parcells decide to leave NFL coaching forever?
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vs the Seahawks and then getting tackled to lose the game.
And then I remember Eli throwing passes to lead the Giants to 2 wins in the 4QTR of two Super Bowls.
Is that the same play that made Bill Parcells decide to leave NFL coaching forever?
Yep.
Two of them have won multiple super bowls. The other has win 2 play off games.
And then I remember Eli throwing passes to lead the Giants to 2 wins in the 4QTR of two Super Bowls.
this is exactly the image i have when I think "Romo / Playoffs". No way is Romo in the same league as Eli.
Romo was a better QB when it did not matter the majority of the time. Eli was the better QB when it did. As tough as Romo was, he missed a lot of time to legitimate injuries, Eli never missed a game.
Couldn't agree more. There are certain players who always
rise to the occasion, they don't choke. Eli is one of those
guys.
2. You know what is bigger than the alleged New York bias? Dallas Cowboys bias. Any Pro Bowl level QB that plays for that team (which is what Romo was) is hyped beyond what they actually were.
But his career was not better than Eli s. You can compare regular seasons all you want, but in big spots Eli was infinitely better.
As to the HOF, I don t think Romo will get serious consideration.
Eli will, but he is not a lock to get in as many seem to think.
As for Eli, the stain on his career will be his lifetime W-L record . One more lousy season and he will become the Gene Shue of NFL legends , essentially a win one, lose one guy who hung around forever .
And what about Eli’s entire 2007 run through the playoffs? More impressive than anything Romo has done.
Romo was a better regular season QB than Eli, the numbers bear that out clearly, but Eli had much bigger moments in the playoffs.
But to say he has been clutch his entire career, is crazy.....
He had a great run, after a so-so season in 2007....
His greatest season, 2011, was the season that gave him the "clutch title" with all the fourth quarter comebacks....
But Eli has played 14 seasons.....in 12 of them, he had not led his team to a playoff victory......
He has never had a high statistical, eye popping season.....he averages 25 td's, under 4k yards, and under 60% completions, while averaging an int a game.....you play 14 years, where qb's basically can't be touched, and you accumulate stats to get into the top 10 category of lifetime stats.....THIS IS HOW THE MAJORITY OF THE MEDIA AND NON GIANT FANS LOOK AT ELI.....
They don't see that he won a SB with a defense that gave up 400 points in the regular season.....they don't see how he has played without an OL for almost 7 seasons......they don't see the injuries to Smith, Hicks, Cruz, or OBj. They don't see the lack of a running game that he has had for most of his career.....or lack of stellar TE, too...and they just say, look at the last two seasons, without factoring in what Mac did to this offense and Eli.....
Who knows what Eli might have done, if he played with better offensive support? Giant fans tend to over rate him, while uninformed fans go in the other direction....
HOF? I think so, but not a first or possibly even second ballot....it may take awhile....
What was he? 8th round or UDFA?
But pointing out that in 14 seasons he has only led the Giants to play off victories in two of them, makes a poor case for him despite the extenuating circumstances you site.
But to say he has been clutch his entire career, is crazy.....
He had a great run, after a so-so season in 2007....
His greatest season, 2011, was the season that gave him the "clutch title" with all the fourth quarter comebacks....
But Eli has played 14 seasons.....in 12 of them, he had not led his team to a playoff victory......
He has never had a high statistical, eye popping season.....he averages 25 td's, under 4k yards, and under 60% completions, while averaging an int a game.....you play 14 years, where qb's basically can't be touched, and you accumulate stats to get into the top 10 category of lifetime stats.....THIS IS HOW THE MAJORITY OF THE MEDIA AND NON GIANT FANS LOOK AT ELI.....
They don't see that he won a SB with a defense that gave up 400 points in the regular season.....they don't see how he has played without an OL for almost 7 seasons......they don't see the injuries to Smith, Hicks, Cruz, or OBj. They don't see the lack of a running game that he has had for most of his career.....or lack of stellar TE, too...and they just say, look at the last two seasons, without factoring in what Mac did to this offense and Eli.....
Who knows what Eli might have done, if he played with better offensive support? Giant fans tend to over rate him, while uninformed fans go in the other direction....
HOF? I think so, but not a first or possibly even second ballot....it may take awhile....
Basically this. That 2011 team was a 2-14 team without Eli.
the cult of eli is something to behold.almost like a religious figure.
Wow, Eli Manning fans on a Giants message board. What a fucking surprise.
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Romo to the HOF is a silly joke. No one in their right mind would argue Romo had an HOF career. But this guy’s saying Romo was better and Kurt Warner was better than Eli. Romo is so ridiculous, I really don’t care. But why do people think Kurt Warner is better than Eli? And why is Big Ben considered to be so much better than Eli? To me the two Sups and two Sup MVPs and Eli’s consecutive game starting streak (which should still be unbroken) make him an easy HOF selection.
the cult of eli is something to behold.almost like a religious figure.
So is the cult of anti-Eli people.
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In comment 13849840 trueblueinpw said:
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Romo to the HOF is a silly joke. No one in their right mind would argue Romo had an HOF career. But this guy’s saying Romo was better and Kurt Warner was better than Eli. Romo is so ridiculous, I really don’t care. But why do people think Kurt Warner is better than Eli? And why is Big Ben considered to be so much better than Eli? To me the two Sups and two Sup MVPs and Eli’s consecutive game starting streak (which should still be unbroken) make him an easy HOF selection.
the cult of eli is something to behold.almost like a religious figure.
So is the cult of anti-Eli people.
well played my friend
Romo before Eli makes no sense what did he ever do except maybe provide the same hype Eli and the Giants did this year annually for the Cowgirls. Not sure how you fix the process but for sure in most sports there plenty of guys going in each year that make us all ask really is he a true HOF?
I think he could even work an insult in on a thread about pizza.
A fucking troll of the highest degree.
I think he could even work an insult in on a thread about pizza.
A fucking troll of the highest degree.
if this bothers you lady, seek help.
Let's see current threads. On the Giants being down to the last 4 teams to play the opener, somehow an Eli slam was worked in:
sundayatone : 2/27/2018 2:03 pm : link : reply
he saw eli play well against philly in dec,musta missed the following weeks horror show in az.
In the overrated players thread:
sundayatone : 2/26/2018 5:31 pm : link : reply
on the eli myth
In the Bart Scott thread:
sundayatone : 2/24/2018 10:39 am : link : reply
In comment 13841264 Route 9 said:
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In comment 13840956 mfsd said:
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that notifies them every time Eli’s name is mentioned in a discussion, so they can jump on ASAP to dump on him
They don't even do much of a good job at trying to hide it here either. Same old boring shit.
yeah,all the eli cultists trolls make it so easy.
On the Schwartz thread:
Just a one-trick pony. Calling out "the cult of Eli" is fucking rich. And by rich, I mean galactically fucking stupid.
Let's see current threads. On the Giants being down to the last 4 teams to play the opener, somehow an Eli slam was worked in:
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gettelman will be happy
sundayatone : 2/27/2018 2:03 pm : link : reply
he saw eli play well against philly in dec,musta missed the following weeks horror show in az.
In the overrated players thread:
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another smart take
sundayatone : 2/26/2018 5:31 pm : link : reply
on the eli myth
In the Bart Scott thread:
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facts not allowed in the eli cult club.
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RE: RE: I swear some of our more endearing trolls here have an alarm set up
sundayatone : 2/24/2018 10:39 am : link : reply
In comment 13841264 Route 9 said:
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In comment 13840956 mfsd said:
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that notifies them every time Eli’s name is mentioned in a discussion, so they can jump on ASAP to dump on him
They don't even do much of a good job at trying to hide it here either. Same old boring shit.
yeah,all the eli cultists trolls make it so easy.
On the Schwartz thread:
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macadoo was the only adult in the room,did nothing wrong,eli benched himself. you are right about mara,shoulda ordered stevie to play webb,the world would not have come to a end.
Just a one-trick pony. Calling out "the cult of Eli" is fucking rich. And by rich, I mean galactically fucking stupid.
you mad bro. the last 5yrs the offense has been broken twice with saint eli,30 pts has been seen since 2015,open your eyes,stop living in the past,time to move on.
Your last sentence is pretty damning evidence of your stupidity.
Your last sentence is pretty damning evidence of your stupidity.
pretty tuff behind that keyboard,figures. but i will leave it that.
no,but i am a very hard marker.
so you agree,not a hof?