Starting to wonder if they're limiting Burke's minutes to not win games. I think this guy could average 20 and 7 if he played 30+ minutes the rest of the way. At least pump his trade value up if he's not part of the core long term, but as it stands he's probably the best player on the team right now.
The broader tank and playoff races are as tight as ever.
Tank schedule this week:
Tuesday
Mavs hosting Nuggets
Wednsday
Grizz at Bulls
Magic at Lakers
Kings hosting Pelicans
Thursday
Nets @ Hornets
Friday
Knicks @ Bucks
Bulls @ Pistons
Magic @ Kings
Saturday
Suns @ Hornets
Grizz @ Mavs
Sunday
Raptors @ Knicks
Bulls @ Hawks
Knicks are still 3-4 games behind the clump of tankers but after this week they should inch to 2 games back from that pack. Key is next week, Knicks get the Mavs, Hornets and Bulls at MSG, they need to lose at least 2 of those to stay afloat.
Can we just forfeit those games next week?
I hope they do the same for Troy Williams.
I dont think so, unless they were ahead of charlotte before he went down.
By the same token, the Utah Jazz won 12 straight games and didn't move any spots in the standings during that span.
Is this in place for the upcoming lottery or sometime in the future?
I'm going to the game on Saturday vs Hornets and have to explain why I'm rooting against the Knicks.
I'm going to the game on Saturday vs Hornets and have to explain why I'm rooting against the Knicks.
Hornacek is the perfect coach for the tank because he is a moron, these vets are not winning shit..
Lee has gone into me mode..
Beasley looks like he is smoking before games...
Kanter looks for his double double in the first half because he knows 2nd half he is not playing...
Is this in place for the upcoming lottery or sometime in the future?
It start next year. I don't think it discourages tanking much, if you finish bottom 3 I think you cannot fall out of the top 5 so teams will still be fighting for those spots. And it incentivizes borderline playoff tanks to fall out because they have better chances at the top spots.
Since 2001 the 54 win team in 2013 is really the only team that was fun to watch and got you excited for the playoffs. I realize no one wants to root for a team that gets knocked in the 2nd round every year. But the NBA playoffs are really fun to root in and weve only gotten that once in 17 years.
Sorry just ranting how the Knicks season seemingly ends every January/February just as the league ramps up for great hoops.
Since 2001 the 54 win team in 2013 is really the only team that was fun to watch and got you excited for the playoffs. I realize no one wants to root for a team that gets knocked in the 2nd round every year. But the NBA playoffs are really fun to root in and weve only gotten that once in 17 years.
Sorry just ranting how the Knicks season seemingly ends every January/February just as the league ramps up for great hoops.
I think with a real coach and kp healthy Knicks would of made or at least have been fighting for the playoffs this year...
Hardaway injury really hurt because the way he was playing he was taking a lot of pressure off of kp...
I always say this but look at the heat, that team is well coached, they have whiteside and dragic and a bunch of cast offs and they are going to make the playoffs again....their roster is nothing amazing...
Hornacek is a God awful coach, who plays guys he likes rather than based on how they help a team, as soon as you see a coach playing players he likes and doesn't bench them or yell at them when they are playing like crap you know that coach is no good...
That said, I wouldn't trade the Knicks situation for Miami as they have no superstar and don't have a path out of mediocrity as they are capped out and don't have lottery picks.
Bam has been a good pick along with Richardson in the 2nd round. Winslow is looking better but he hasnt lit the league on fire. But outside of that they have acquired their guys through trades and FA.
But that is my point you get a real coach and things can change...
Knicks need to hit on this coaching hire...
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Is a great franchise. Great coach, great player development, and they play really hard. And outside of Wade, they havent even drafted well. They basically the opposite of the Knicks.
Bam has been a good pick along with Richardson in the 2nd round. Winslow is looking better but he hasnt lit the league on fire. But outside of that they have acquired their guys through trades and FA.
Yeah was going to say that. Since Lebron left they haven't had much help in terms of picks. Winslow was their only lottery pick and he sucks., but they made out like bandits with Bam and Richardson. I guess Whiteside was their "lottery pick", basically got a lottery talent in FA. Bosh's injury certainly has hurt too, they haven't had the best luck recently but thats no fault on their management or coaching.
That said, I wouldn't trade the Knicks situation for Miami as they have no superstar and don't have a path out of mediocrity as they are capped out and don't have lottery picks.
That wasn't my point, I wouldn't trade situations either..
My point was you get the right coach and it stabilizes everything..
Nets are a God awful basketball team with subpar talent and no draft pick yet everyone talks glowingly about them because everyone thinks Atkinson is a good coach...
I still hold out hope that Jeff Van Gundy will comeback and coach the team.
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team that's not fairly comparable to the Knicks. Middle of the road role players go to Miami, get in peak shape and see career years. They have 7-8 solid NBA players, the Knicks have like 4 including KP.
That said, I wouldn't trade the Knicks situation for Miami as they have no superstar and don't have a path out of mediocrity as they are capped out and don't have lottery picks.
That wasn't my point, I wouldn't trade situations either..
My point was you get the right coach and it stabilizes everything..
Nets are a God awful basketball team with subpar talent and no draft pick yet everyone talks glowingly about them because everyone thinks Atkinson is a good coach...
Yeah, I agree completely.
One outside of the box coach prospect I would interview, Becky Hammond, she has learned under popovich, she played in New York, I think players around the league would look at it like finally Knicks are not going after expensive retreads..
It would be very bold, I think if Perry had final call I think there would be a chance, with mills would he really put his job on the line?
Knicks fans already think he is a joke, if it didnt work could he really take the beating?
Mike Budenholzer( if hes fired- not giving up picks for him)
Jay Wright
Gregg Marshall
Ettore Messina
Jerry Stackhouse
Brent Barry
Tony Bennett
If Jarret Jack retires I would try to keep him as an assistant.
Mike Budenholzer( if hes fired- not giving up picks for him)
Jay Wright
Gregg Marshall
Ettore Messina
Jerry Stackhouse
Brent Barry
Tony Bennett
If Jarret Jack retires I would try to keep him as an assistant.
Budenholzer and messina agreed..
No college coaches, Stevens is the exception not the rule..
Stackhouse and Barry have no coaching experience so why are they considered and hammond not?
I think Barry is a brilliant basketball mind. Has loads of experience playing for many different teams and now has experience learning around the league through broadcasting. Teams have been interested in him coaching but hes refused so far.
Messina would be a Home run hire.
They are the 7th seed in the putrid East. I dont see what is so great about that. Sure, they play hard and do some nice things. But they are no closer to being contenders than the like of the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, etc. They are in purgatory. Picking anywhere between 15th and 18th is sure sign of non competing.
We saw this for YEARS with the Atlanta Hawks as they never factored in being contenders. Even the year they were the 1 seed, they were swept in the playoffs.
They are the 7th seed in the putrid East. I dont see what is so great about that. Sure, they play hard and do some nice things. But they are no closer to being contenders than the like of the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, etc. They are in purgatory. Picking anywhere between 15th and 18th is sure sign of non competing.
We saw this for YEARS with the Atlanta Hawks as they never factored in being contenders. Even the year they were the 1 seed, they were swept in the playoffs.
Since 2001 Miami has 3 titles and the Knicks have 1 playoff series win. Have only had 2 losing seasons in the last 15 years. They have a top 5 coach and top 3 management. They can get meetings with any FA they want and if the top guys want to go there, they will make the cap work.
How is picking between 15-18 a sign of non competing? Would you rather them take the Knicks path and be embarrassingly bad while picking 8-10?
LeBron wade and bosh have all said they would of went anywhere that could fit all 3, you want to give him credit for trading players for peanuts? Fine..
Riley his moves other than that have been awful, and people give Phil no credit for kp yet Riley said he didn't even have kp on his board at 10..
LeBron wade and bosh have all said they would of went anywhere that could fit all 3, you want to give him credit for trading players for peanuts? Fine..
Riley his moves other than that have been awful, and people give Phil no credit for kp yet Riley said he didn't even have kp on his board at 10..
What other moves have been "awful"?
Riley had a Finals MVP with 80% cap space free, thats pretty contrarian considering teams are usually forcing signings to get half-decent players for their star player. The first opportunity of that happening for the Knicks is in 2019 and 2020, lets see what type of success they achieve then.
What are you smoking? The Knicks HAVE spent that kind of money on players, far, far worse. If Mills brought together 3 players of that quality who went on to 4 finals and two titles, hed be sainted in NY.
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What are you smoking? The Knicks HAVE spent that kind of money on players, far, far worse. If Mills brought together 3 players of that quality who went on to 4 finals and two titles, hed be sainted in NY.
So if mills signed, waiter, James Johnson and Kelly olynyk to big deals and capped out the team yoh would be happy?
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He has 2 good moves and has 3 titles because of it, he drafted wade and traded for shaq...
LeBron wade and bosh have all said they would of went anywhere that could fit all 3, you want to give him credit for trading players for peanuts? Fine..
Riley his moves other than that have been awful, and people give Phil no credit for kp yet Riley said he didn't even have kp on his board at 10..
What other moves have been "awful"?
Riley had a Finals MVP with 80% cap space free, thats pretty contrarian considering teams are usually forcing signings to get half-decent players for their star player. The first opportunity of that happening for the Knicks is in 2019 and 2020, lets see what type of success they achieve then.
First off I gave him credit for wade and if you wanted to give him credit for the only one being able to clear space for 3 players that is fine...
But can we stop saying LeBron and bosh went to Miami because of riley...
They went to Miami because 1 it is Miami and 2 they could all still get pause and win titles together...
So if mills signed, waiter, James Johnson and Kelly olynyk to big deals and capped out the team yoh would be happy?
Sorry. Thought you meant Lebron/Bosh/Wade
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So if mills signed, waiter, James Johnson and Kelly olynyk to big deals and capped out the team yoh would be happy?
Sorry. Thought you meant Lebron/Bosh/Wade
Why would anyone complain about signing 3 superstars?
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On those players he would be killed by everyone on bbi and in the media
What are you smoking? The Knicks HAVE spent that kind of money on players, far, far worse. If Mills brought together 3 players of that quality who went on to 4 finals and two titles, hed be sainted in NY.
So if mills signed, waiter, James Johnson and Kelly olynyk to big deals and capped out the team yoh would be happy?
It's better than any deals the Knicks signed recently...but I was more implying the overall team direction over the past decade compared to the Knicks.
Spoelstra is the reason they are in the playoff hunt not riley
James Johnson actually a pretty good player... we are paying THJR that same amount and James Johnson is making less than him. Olynyk and Whiteside are probably the most glaring contracts.
But yes, Miami hasnt managed the cap well as of late...but also the Knicks haven't either lol.
But go read what guys like James Johnson and Waiters have said about Riley, I will faint the day a Knicks player comes out of a meeting with a NY exec and says something similar.
Not saying Riley is the best exec ever but there's a pretty enormous gap between Riley and whoever has been in the Knicks office the last 15 years.
I said for the praise Riley gets he has been mediocre...
And James Johnson is better than hardaway based on what?
I said for the praise Riley gets he has been mediocre...
And James Johnson is better than hardaway based on what?
James Johnson has transformed himself into a hardnosed defender and secondary playmaker since he signed with the Heat. Granted he's a lot older than THJR, but he's a lightyears better defender than THJR, better rebounder and passer.
Obviously age is there, but he is comparable to say Courtney Lee as a player and makes a bit more than him as well, but is also versatily (he's an ideal 4 but can guard 3s) so it s fairly justified IMO.
You telling me you would think about taking Perry/Mills over Riley? Because if the answer is no I can save the argument because we agree on the same thing.
If we are talking about top execs Im not sure where Riley stands but there is certainly a few execs I'd take over him just off the top of my head. Buford, Ainge, Morey, Meyers.
Hinkie lol.
Not to mention 17 points to 10 points per game...
I just don't see how Johnson is a better than hardaway...
Not to mention 17 points to 10 points per game...
I just don't see how Johnson is a better than hardaway...
Its not a hill I wanna die on, I'd take Hardaway given age, just thought out of all the contracts to pick at, James Johnson is one of the more fair deals on the Heat roster. Ideally, neither player are one of your top 3 options and I just think JJ is better as a role player than THJR. THJR is ideally a 6th man but he's making more than double what the best 6th man in the league signed for, and James Johnson is your prototypical hybrid 3/4 in the modern NBA; $15M is a lot for a solid starter but it seems than every team is paying a non-star player around that much (the Knicks are paying 4 lol).
Not to mention 17 points to 10 points per game...
I just don't see how Johnson is a better than hardaway...
Light years better as a defender and overall a much higher BBall IQ and tougher player. However Hardaway is younger and a much more talented offensive player.
But to be honest they are both seriously overpaid.
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you can give credit to Spo or Riley or the culture or whatever.
They are the 7th seed in the putrid East. I dont see what is so great about that. Sure, they play hard and do some nice things. But they are no closer to being contenders than the like of the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, etc. They are in purgatory. Picking anywhere between 15th and 18th is sure sign of non competing.
We saw this for YEARS with the Atlanta Hawks as they never factored in being contenders. Even the year they were the 1 seed, they were swept in the playoffs.
Since 2001 Miami has 3 titles and the Knicks have 1 playoff series win. Have only had 2 losing seasons in the last 15 years. They have a top 5 coach and top 3 management. They can get meetings with any FA they want and if the top guys want to go there, they will make the cap work.
How is picking between 15-18 a sign of non competing? Would you rather them take the Knicks path and be embarrassingly bad while picking 8-10?
Miami won 3 titles with a top 20 player of all time and one of the 3 bestever. They arent ANYWHERE close to that.
Look at the Mavs. Carlisle is the 2nd best coach in the NBA IMO, and they suck. They have a plan though. Picking 15th to 18th every year is not giving you a better chance at winning. The only way the Heat are capale of being title contenders is if Anthoyn Davis and Greek freak decide to pair up and go down there.
They hit the jackpot with Wade. And then Bosh and Lebron choosing to go there.
I'll give him some slack because of Bosh's injury throwing things off for Miami. I mean if Bosh was healthy the past 2 seasons, maybe they do land Hayward and a core of Dragic, Haywood, Bosh and Whiteside with really good role players looks like a top 3 seed in the East.
But instead he spent that money on good players that aren't elevating them anywhere. Good players on big contracts, I'm not sure how many of them they'll be able to dump or how many assets they'll get back. Theyre not getting lottery picks for anyone on their roster. It certainly has spiraled south the last 2 years, that's obviously not something I want the Knicks to emulate (but they have).
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you can give credit to Spo or Riley or the culture or whatever.
They are the 7th seed in the putrid East. I dont see what is so great about that. Sure, they play hard and do some nice things. But they are no closer to being contenders than the like of the Knicks, Lakers, Bulls, etc. They are in purgatory. Picking anywhere between 15th and 18th is sure sign of non competing.
We saw this for YEARS with the Atlanta Hawks as they never factored in being contenders. Even the year they were the 1 seed, they were swept in the playoffs.
Since 2001 Miami has 3 titles and the Knicks have 1 playoff series win. Have only had 2 losing seasons in the last 15 years. They have a top 5 coach and top 3 management. They can get meetings with any FA they want and if the top guys want to go there, they will make the cap work.
How is picking between 15-18 a sign of non competing? Would you rather them take the Knicks path and be embarrassingly bad while picking 8-10?
Miami won 3 titles with a top 20 player of all time and one of the 3 bestever. They arent ANYWHERE close to that.
Look at the Mavs. Carlisle is the 2nd best coach in the NBA IMO, and they suck. They have a plan though. Picking 15th to 18th every year is not giving you a better chance at winning. The only way the Heat are capale of being title contenders is if Anthoyn Davis and Greek freak decide to pair up and go down there.
They hit the jackpot with Wade. And then Bosh and Lebron choosing to go there.
I wouldn't give the Mavs credit so quickly, I don't think they've been trying to be this bad, it just sort of happened and now Cuban is giving into just bottoming out. Just 2 years ago, Cuban was trying to assemble a "core" of old Dirk, Wes matthews coming off an achilles tear and Deandre Jordan, which is similar to what Miami has been doing.
Mavs have a few good young pieces, but all of them look more like role players than stars so far, I don't think many teams envy their situation, either.
Listened to a Nate Duncan podcast recently where he ranked "young cores", not including players older than 25 and cap space/draft pick status.
Him and whoever his guest was had a fairly similar ranking where it was sixers/cetlics for 1 and 2, followed by Min, Denver, Milwaukee, Indy, Utah and then LAL.
Both argued that Denver might have the best young talent overall, having a star in Jokic, a star-potential player in Murray, and a 3 and D+ player in Harris, but that fit was an issue defensively. Jokic doesn't grade out as a rim protector, Murray isn't a good defender yet and Harris is undersized when guarding the bigger, elite wings of the NBA.
The Knicks at least don't have that problem with KP. While Frank and THJR don't measure up to the secondary options of those teams, lots of players work with KP. If NY lands its stud 2-way wing defender in this draft, things can fall into place rather quickly the next 2 years. But alot hinges on getting our Mitchell, PG, Klay Thompson, at 8 or 9 in this draft (or even just get 75% of that caliber player).
Its embarassing, 3 straight Portland poessesions led to 6 points just now all on kanter miscues. First he doesnt recover. Second play he loses Nurkic, another Knick picks him up but kanter just stares at him not understanding that if someone picks up his man someone else is Open - Aminu proceeds to an open backdoor layup. Then he hedges a dribble handoff (?) allowing Nurkic to roll freely in the paint for an open floater.
Good for the tank I guess?
He is making shots from 28 feet..
I want to stop being too hopeful, the Knicks are still ahead by 4 wins or more than most of the tanking teams. Im not sure how many even win 4 more games in one month, I think the Knicks still win a few more as well.
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Yeah, I'm not expecting much - maybe they jump ONE team. Incredible that they may win 27 games and still draft ninth. What a shitty league right now.
4 back from 3..
Everything is bunching up, maybe bulls win a couple of games now that they are forced to play Lopez and holiday..
4 back from 3..
Everything is bunching up, maybe bulls win a couple of games now that they are forced to play Lopez and holiday..
I highly doubt they lose out but the only game I can see them being favored in is home against Dallas next week. Losing to Dalas and Chicago will be very important.
The last 2 games of the season against Cleveland scare me. The Cavs might not need those games and could be in rest mode.
The NBA needs to do something. You cant have a 3rd of the league tanking.
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4 back from 3..
Everything is bunching up, maybe bulls win a couple of games now that they are forced to play Lopez and holiday..
I highly doubt they lose out but the only game I can see them being favored in is home against Dallas next week. Losing to Dalas and Chicago will be very important.
The last 2 games of the season against Cleveland scare me. The Cavs might not need those games and could be in rest mode.
The NBA needs to do something. You cant have a 3rd of the league tanking.
"The NBA needs to do something" has been the sentiment for years but frankly lottery form won't ever do anything.
The issue is that in the NBA, talent wins out and there isn't much variance, like baseball, where one stud pitcher not performing to par can screw up an entire series or a 7th/8th bat getting hot can give an underdog a legit shot.
The NFL has only 16 games to determine the 12 teams going to the playoffs, the Giants have certainly been an example of how fringe teams can make a run (even the eagles with a backup QB).
If the NBA truly wants reform, the best way (IMO) is to reduce the number of regular seasons games and reduce playoff series to 5 games instead of 7. That way fringe playoff teams have incentive to get in and "get hot". Will that ever even be discussed? Hell the fuck no.
I think this is just the nature of how this sport will be. If there was an issue with views and revenue they would have to toss something on the table, but the opposite is happening.
Another way to do it is to get rid of revenue sharing and have individual teams sign TV deals, but no one will want to be a small market owner if that's the case. Who the fuck would want to own Sacramento or Phoenix if that happened? Its as unlikely as reducing games.
I couldn't imagine that would fly with the players union. If the monetary value was significant enough, than good player wouldn't want to sign with bad teams, bad teams that are trying to get better. It would also skew against small market teams, which I think is where many competitive issues of the NBA lie
Or maybe not revealing lottery odds until the end of the season? For example, every year a random generator sets lottery odds, so every year the odds are weighted differently. So one year the worst team might have a 30% shot at the #1 pick but the next the #7 team might have a 30% at #1. But the odds aren't revealed until the end of the season. It's not a great idea but I think it might be in the direction.
The real meat of the issue is getting the .500 teams to stay competitive and not intentionally fall out of the playoff race. So if the #15 team has a 30% chance at #1 then it incentivizes fringe teams to fall out further. Maybe randomly selecting the odds from 1-10 only would be better
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bonus for each game. Take enough money from here and there (I know this would be the hard part, especially finding enough to make it worth while.) to give a bonus to the team that wins. The bonus would be split between the players who played in the game, the coaching staff, and the front office. This way it would create an incentive to win every game and for players to play as often as possible. A player would be less likely to take a game off if it made them ineligible for the victory bonus.
I couldn't imagine that would fly with the players union. If the monetary value was significant enough, than good player wouldn't want to sign with bad teams, bad teams that are trying to get better. It would also skew against small market teams, which I think is where many competitive issues of the NBA lie
Good points. I could argue, though, that in the current NBA players tend to avoid bad teams anyway. It's actually why teams need to tank, because they are unable to sign any good free agents without first finding their own players in the draft. Also, if the bonus is in addition to the current player's salaries, one could argue that the players union would be for it because it would increase the profit percentage going to the players.
Phoenix tried really hard to land Aldridge but struck out. i honest to god don't think the Kings have been intentionally tanking the last few years, they threw like $100M at Randolph, Hill and Carter this past offseason, and were actually commended for it. No one expected them to make a playoff push but I think the sentiment was that they'd be more competitive and maybe win 30-35 games, and then this happened.
A simple fix would be to penalize repeater teams that are at the absolute bottom. It would just treat the symptoms and not the actual problem, but at least you get teams to tank for maybe the 6-10 spots rather than 1-5 if teams can't pick twice in the top 5 two years in a row and are sent to the end of the lottery. If top talent isn't helping your team get better, then at least give the top guys to better teams.
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Thats been floated around for a while but the Players union is staunchly against it. While it doesn't affect them, it would piss off most NBA players so they by default have to be against it. If Lebron, KD, Kawhi are making $80M a year that means pretty much all the players making between $10M and $15M annually will probably be making less than $5M annually.
I've been saying they should go this way for a while. Implement an NFL style hard cap and get rid of all the exceptions and caps on individual earnings (excluding maybe the rookie scale). And allow teams to keep money on their books when trading players like they do in the NHL.
If a 75% vote is needed those options probably would never happen, though I can see eliminating the draft being more realistic. Issue is the NBA has too many teams because of how dominant the top players are, its hopeless being a team without any.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
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First pick in the draft goes to the best team that missed the playoffs and then down to the worst team that missed the playoffs and then to the playoff teams from worst to best.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
No, but I think that guy clearly ripped off the idea. It's a solid idea, no?
you'd have to attach something else to it. Players couldn't care less about where their team is picking in an upcoming draft.
I think I go sleeper and get Jaren Jackson. It would be a focus on defense, JJJ fits modern nba big defense better than Ayton and would space the floor on the other end. Couldnt complain with Ayton though.
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First pick in the draft goes to the best team that missed the playoffs and then down to the worst team that missed the playoffs and then to the playoff teams from worst to best.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
No, but I think that guy clearly ripped off the idea. It's a solid idea, no?
you'd still have some tanking. It would just be a different group of teams doing it.
In the nine games he's played with the Knicks, Emmanuel Mudiay is shooting 33.0% from the floor, 12.5% from three-point range, and 63.3% from the FT line.
However, the kicker is that his defense has been far worse than his offense.
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This is remarkable. Emmanuel Mudiay has played just 193 minutes with the Knicks and they've been outscored by 87 points when he's on the court.
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First pick in the draft goes to the best team that missed the playoffs and then down to the worst team that missed the playoffs and then to the playoff teams from worst to best.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
This is a terrible idea. It just changes the tanking point. Instead of the worst teams fighting for the top pick, you'd have the fringe playoff teams trying to drop out.
I would increase the payout for playoff teams. I know they make money on playoff home games, but have another pool of money for players/teams that is tiered by seeds. Then just have equal lottery odds for non playoff teams.
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First pick in the draft goes to the best team that missed the playoffs and then down to the worst team that missed the playoffs and then to the playoff teams from worst to best.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
No, but I think that guy clearly ripped off the idea. It's a solid idea, no?
you'd still have some tanking. It would just be a different group of teams doing it.
Don't know if I agree with this. First off, teams can't fully tank as they'd need to end up just outside the playoff picture. Secondly, owners probably make a lot of money when they make the playoffs, I'm not sure they'd be ok with teams purposely missing the playoffs for a top pick. Is there something else you are referring to?
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First pick in the draft goes to the best team that missed the playoffs and then down to the worst team that missed the playoffs and then to the playoff teams from worst to best.
Haha were you listening to the Barstool mickstape podcast? That was their idea like 2-3 weeks ago, I wonder if that guy listened to it and just ripped it off entirely.
This is a terrible idea. It just changes the tanking point. Instead of the worst teams fighting for the top pick, you'd have the fringe playoff teams trying to drop out.
I would increase the payout for playoff teams. I know they make money on playoff home games, but have another pool of money for players/teams that is tiered by seeds. Then just have equal lottery odds for non playoff teams.
There was something else to it, I missed the entirety of it but the top teams get to pick who they play, so there is still an incentive to win. It wasn't a lottery reform idea it was a playoff reform idea.