Ian Rapoport on Quenton Nelson

and you love Nelson at #6 or so, then why not take him? If he's the guy you love and think will be an All-Pro, what difference does it make? Picking a guy you don't like just because Nelson is a G makes no sense to me. You have one pick in his area, use it on the player you want.

Sure try to trade down, that would be ideal assuming you still get him, but its also risky. Also you can make the same "impact" argument about any player. For example what good would the top RB do behind an OL that can't block, or what good is a top QB if he's on the bench for 2 years, or if he plays he's behind an OL that can't block?
Take the guy you want.

Is going to tale Barkley at 1 thinking they can get Josh Allen with 4. I think they probably have Darnald graded higher than Allan but are going to decide in the emd that Barkley and Allen beats out Darnald and amyone else

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In comment 13853088 BigBlue4You09 said: Quote: JK, but I wouldn't take him at 2. Robert Gallery was a Tackle. Nelson is a Guard.

Yes that's true, but the point, Gallery actually more
valuable as OT was one of the draft busts, people had
speculated he was good as Boselli. I'd rather take a
chance on a QB than a G, the payoff is much higher.

Nelson is not going to bring us the SB. He would help,
but at #2 you must go QB, you may never be there again,
I can acknowledge the Barkley support given the amount
of praise he's gotten, his performance at Combine and he
look the part.

P, PK, C, LS, S, G, all important BUT, not at #2.

And unless a few scouts want to give their opinion,
can anyone tell me with authority that Rosen isn't a better
player than Nelson. Or Barkley better than Darnold.
We all for the most must rely on the opinions of draft
guru's or stories from GM's & Coaches who are giving
disinformation.

...doing so many things so well:

(1) Despite his (very) large size, he comes off the line at a perfect angle with tremendous leverage;
(2) He gets to the second level and nearly always finds his man;
(3) He generates so many seal blocks it's almost comical;
(4) His head is on a swivel and he's fantastic picking up stunts;
(5) He knows when to come off his block to help his teammates;
(6) No one slips his block once he latches on;
(7) 1-on-1 he drives defensive tackles off the line.

The only criticism I have is that he seems to stand a little too upright on pass blocking and can lose a step or two of real estate. But, then again, not too many ever get around him and I've never seen him run over. Never.

One last thing: he plays to the whistle much to the chagrin of defenders, many of whom find themselves planted because they felt the play was already over. Big fucking mistake. Quenton Nelson isn't out there to be a nice guy... this in one Mo-Fo.

If the Giants don't go QB at #2, I sure as hell won't complain to hear this beast announced as the newest Giant!

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Ask that question to 3 out of the 4 teams in this years championship games

I'm quite certain this year was an outlier. There is enough history filed that the QB position is vastly more critical than the oline.

In comment 13853276 M.S. said:

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...doing so many things so well: (1) Despite his (very) large size, he comes off the line at a perfect angle with tremendous leverage; (2) He gets to the second level and nearly always finds his man; (3) He generates so many seal blocks it's almost comical; (4) His head is on a swivel and he's fantastic picking up stunts; (5) He knows when to come off his block to help his teammates; (6) No one slips his block once he latches on; (7) 1-on-1 he drives defensive tackles off the line. The only criticism I have is that he seems to stand a little too upright on pass blocking and can lose a step or two of real estate. But, then again, not too many ever get around him and I've never seen him run over. Never. One last thing: he plays to the whistle much to the chagrin of defenders, many of whom find themselves planted because they felt the play was already over. Big fucking mistake. Quenton Nelson isn't out there to be a nice guy... this in one Mo-Fo. If the Giants don't go QB at #2, I sure as hell won't complain to hear this beast announced as the newest Giant!

Thanks M.S. :)

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That's the clip I've been looking for. Awesome!

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In comment 13853088 BigBlue4You09 said: Quote: JK, but I wouldn't take him at 2. Robert Gallery was a Tackle. Nelson is a Guard.

Chance Warmack? Jonathan Cooper?

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In comment 13853087 The 12th Man said:

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I hope we are targeting. The key is to run the ball better and not to get your QB killed and to give him time to find their weapons they have on O. Barkley and Nelson are the 2 players that make the most sense for the Giants in this draft.

If we trade down he will not be there.

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In comment 13853128 robbieballs2003 said: Quote: of this block Link - ( New Window ) I might have got up and started fighting after that disrespect

LMAO!!! I was thinking the same thing!!!!

Get after the Bills - trade the #2 pick for their 2 1st rounders this year, their 2 2nd rounders this year, their 3rd rounder, and their 1st and 2nd next year.

That give the Giants 12 picks between this year and next in Rounds 1-3. This roster needs an overhaul, and this is the way to do it, and start course-correcting Reese's drafting failures these last few seasons.

....how valuable Chris Snee was to his career. It's no coincidence that he became an All World RB from 2004-2006.

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Ouch... that was a just plain disrespectful block.

We are going to put Nelson at right guard?

but if he turns out to be a Hall of Famer, it's a good pick. But:

On average, around 7 Hall of Famers enter the league. If you get any one of them in the first, your draft is off to a great start. But I'd rather have a Hall of Fame QB or pass rusher than a Hall of Fame guard.

Barkley is being projected at the level. So is Nelson. Who are the other five or so?

In comment 13853424 Emlen'sGremlins said:

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....how valuable Chris Snee was to his career. It's no coincidence that he became an All World RB from 2004-2006.

Did Snee help Tiki with his fumbling?

Tiki was great before Snee arrived...

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Jesus jumped up crap that is spectacular in too many ways to describe.

I would ordinarily agree but this draft isn't rife with playmakers and difference makers. Barkley, definitely, Rosen/Allen/Darnold...maybe? Chubb is being talked up at 2 now but is he really a game changing DL? If Barkley goes one, and I'm not in love with Rosen this has to be the pick. This pick CANNOT MISS, period. <---see I used a period after saying it, that really means I mean it! Nelson creates a domino effect on the OL and pretty much erases pressure in one gap and gives you someone to pull and lean on in the running game.

If we hadn't totally botched the picks with Flowers and Apple I'd be more inclined to agree but those are two top 10 picks, which should be day one starters and foundations for your team and neither is even assured of being here let alone starting and being a building block this year. We have too many holes, taking the safest and probably top two player in this draft has to be the move here if Barkley goes first.

Giants will pick Josh Rosen and this will be Eli’s last year in blue

NFL is a business .......

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Sweet! A 13 minute youtube highlight video of a guard blocking!

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Giants will pick Josh Rosen and this will be Eli’s last year in blue NFL is a business .......

This is what I'm hoping will happen if the Browns take Barkley #1.

I go get Kirk Cousins, then draft Barkley #1 and Nelson #4. They'd get the two sure elite players in the draft who can start day 1 and be top 5 at their respective positions and have a proven QB who's 29 years old. And they'd still have money and premium picks to use.

It's insane that I'm envious of Browns fans right now...

In comment 13854798 Knee of Theismann said:

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I go get Kirk Cousins, then draft Barkley #1 and Nelson #4. They'd get the two sure elite players in the draft who can start day 1 and be top 5 at their respective positions and have a proven QB who's 29 years old. And they'd still have money and premium picks to use. It's insane that I'm envious of Browns fans right now...

That would be a good plan for the Browns but if you're Cousins do you sign in Cleveland? Minnesota is ready to compete for a SB now and they have the money to spend.. Just seems like the obvious choice.