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Will the Giants draft or sign a free agent TE?

GFAN52 : 3/7/2018 9:20 pm
Have to believe DG and Shurmur want an upgrade there.
Are you serious?  
uconngiant : 3/7/2018 9:23 pm : link
No, they have other positions like offensive lineman, wide receiver, running back, defensive back and kicker/punter
An upgrade?  
BigBlueHens : 3/7/2018 9:23 pm : link
We spend money on Ellison and a first round pick on Engram. Engram can be special, while Ellison is known for his blocking.

Adams is a serviceable 3rd TE too. He made some plays last year. I think TE might be the least of our offensive worries.
Oh boy.  
Steve L : 3/7/2018 9:25 pm : link
This could get fun.
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arcarsenal : 3/7/2018 9:28 pm : link
Upgrade over who?

We have an excellent pass catching TE and an excellent blocking TE.

Where is a 3rd TE going to slot in and which guy is he going to play over?
Ellison played well last year  
mrvax : 3/7/2018 9:29 pm : link
He even caught 1-2 passes per game. Oddly, NFL.com has him listed as a RB with 1 career carry. Why not TE?
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Ten Ton Hammer : 3/7/2018 9:32 pm : link
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arcarsenal : 3/7/2018 9:33 pm : link
Jimmy Graham is really the only UFA TE of note - and we're not going to sign him (nor should we)

Eifert's back is wrecked - I wouldn't touch him.

Martellus Bennett I'd probably pass on at this point.

There's no one in the FA pool who is a better receiving TE than Engram and Ellison is better than the guys who are more in-line blockers

I guess we could draft one, but why? We have much more pressing needs.

Our TE group is one of the few that I think we can stand PAT on and be fine.
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arcarsenal : 3/7/2018 9:33 pm : link
In comment 13854301 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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I will always love this gif. Makes me laugh every time.
Wut  
Danny Kanell : 3/7/2018 9:34 pm : link
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Based on the reaction on the Ogletree threads...  
bw in dc : 3/7/2018 9:34 pm : link
If Jints Central does address the TE situation, that means they are all in on Eli and the “writing is on the wall”...
Should have said backup TE depth to Engram...  
GFAN52 : 3/7/2018 9:38 pm : link
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Why ....?  
short lease : 3/7/2018 9:40 pm : link
Ellison looked good and Engram had a good rookie season. TE is the last thing they need to be worried about this off season.
Please, how much longer before the draft!  
SterlingArcher : 3/7/2018 9:40 pm : link
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The only possibility, which is highly unlikely, is if they decide to  
Ira : 3/7/2018 9:41 pm : link
move Engram to wide receiver.
TE’s  
Dragon : 3/7/2018 9:45 pm : link
Is just like ever other positions on this team they lack talent. The top guys at the combine will be gone by the fourth round but there are some late round big bodies that could easily make this team. Ian Thomas looked like someone in the fourth but with the trade it’s hard to see him getting to the 5th. Jordan Thomas 6-5, 265, 4.74 is another real big body still trying to figure out the TE position but the upside is intriguing hopefully very late or UDFA, did have a decent combine.
I posted this a little bit ago  
Peppers : 3/7/2018 10:02 pm : link
but for what its worth, I heard Engram will be playing more as a receiver (split end and slot).. less inline.

Ellison is a good two way TE with knowledge of Shurmur's offense. Hes a much better fit inline especially with the state of the OL.

Adams has potential. He's a solid backup.

If we add to the position it will be a cheap vet on min or a late/udfa for competition.
RE: TE’s  
arcarsenal : 3/7/2018 10:04 pm : link
In comment 13854331 Dragon said:
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Is just like ever other positions on this team they lack talent. The top guys at the combine will be gone by the fourth round but there are some late round big bodies that could easily make this team. Ian Thomas looked like someone in the fourth but with the trade it’s hard to see him getting to the 5th. Jordan Thomas 6-5, 265, 4.74 is another real big body still trying to figure out the TE position but the upside is intriguing hopefully very late or UDFA, did have a decent combine.


They lack talent?

I swear, every post I read of yours is worse than the last.

Did Evan Engram not just have a very good rookie year? So he's not a two-way TE.. big deal. Most guys aren't.

Look at what Zach Ertz has done for the Eagles.

Look at how KC uses Kelce.

The TE position is changing in this league and we have one of the better young talents there.
So For the 4th string position?  
giantsFC : 3/7/2018 10:46 pm : link
Howard Cross. Def Howard cross.
Heres the thing though  
idiotsavant : 3/7/2018 11:05 pm : link
What you guys call 'needs'. To many needs for premium picks (linesmen both sides, lbs, RBs, dbs) to spend any really high picks on receivers or receiving positions (other than RB) ...and yet we already have a very dynamic #2 piece in E.E.

In addition, two TE sets being a run threat first play action monster,you do need two that legit run block. Not sure if EE graded out so well in that vs DEs or Sam's what have you. Vs dbs, certainly though.

I would grab a top two way TE if one is there at the right spot, yes.

And move E.E. all over positionally as a match up nightmare.

Within a trade down scenario additional picks.
folks shouldn't drink before posting. As I posted yesterday, TE is  
Victor in CT : 3/8/2018 5:19 am : link
maybe the only position that Reese upgraded last year with both star potential and depth. That McAdoosh didn't use it is an indictment of him, not the players
Maybe he thinks  
Doomster : 3/8/2018 6:25 am : link
We are trading EE for Norwell?

It could happen....like winning the lottery....
Sort of like DT. It's a falsehood that one only runs  
idiotsavant : 3/8/2018 6:44 am : link
One at a time on the field. Even the big nose DT types. It's also a falsehood that one should only have one good one in a roster even when only fielding one at a time.

(And E.E. is very good and very useful player but it's almost a different position as opposed to your traditional run and pass blocking '+' TE.)

Same fans will completely reverse their logic for certain positions, saying 'if it's BPA draft the player regardless of need'and flip back again for others. For great true old school block / catch TEs ...same applies,.

Finally, TE is part of the run blocking situation....E.E is a run block threat vs dbs more so than he is vs big D linesmen. Work the match ups. Think about our very anemic run game last year with lots of EE at in line.

Lastly. Keep Dallas from getting a new one ...by drafting the player ourselves, as Whitten is old as the hills and they will grab a great one to terrorize us for the next 14 years.
I think having three useful tight ends on the roster isn't a bad idea.  
Brown Recluse : 3/8/2018 7:01 am : link
Engram and Ellison are a good combo. Adams is useless.

Id like to see them bring in a serviceable third tight end. Maybe a developmental guy like they had in Matt Lacosse (who I think was a mistake to let go in favor of one of Reeses draft toys) or an older veteran. This is probably a position that will be filled by a UDFA or late round pick later in the year.

Yes, right after we sign another 4-3 DE  
ZogZerg : 3/8/2018 7:35 am : link
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Engram, Ellison, Adams  
clatterbuck : 3/8/2018 9:38 am : link
are fine. TE is not a position of need. One of the lingering McAdoo mysteries is why he didn't use Ellison more.
You can never have  
HoustonGiant : 3/8/2018 10:33 am : link
too many black unicorns....
Ellison, Dallas Goedert and  
idiotsavant : 3/8/2018 3:00 pm : link
E.E. as your moveable piece:

TE, wideout, slot, hback depending and even while we are in 12 ,(technically 13 maybe, fine) personnel.

E.E. would nearly always be on the field, but if you want to run past the edge out of 12p you bring 2x classic 260+ lbTEs.

As I said, before the cowholders get him.
They didn’t need a linebacker  
NikkiMac : 3/8/2018 7:12 pm : link
When they took Carl Banks

Never say never best player available ?
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